slaveboyforyou
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I already said not to cite stats, thanks for refusing my non-offer. And again, the "common knowledge" argument is incredibly weak. Not that retirement places have any bearing on what was being addressed, despite what you may think.
http://www.uta.fi/FAST/PK6/REF/commknow.html
There's a link for you about the acceptibility of "common knowledge" in writing. It's obvious that you've never actually had to write anything serious by your comment that common knowledge is weak. I guess they don't teach writing skills in community colleges. Anyone that pays attention to contemporary American history and economics knows that the Northeast and Upper Midwest have seen their population decline, while the Sunbelt states (the South and Southwest) have seen population increases.
If your attention span is too short to read about common knowledge acceptibility, here is a short video on the subject from The University of Hawaii:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNZVQWNSRnc
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But you'll notice that the people in the north don't exactly refer to southerners as seperatists anymore, right? The north has moved on, the south still thinks, quite incorrectly that "the south shall rise again." Meaning, that their continued use of a civil war term, supports my point about their inability move the fuck on and get over it.
No, they refer to Southernors as rednecks, hillbillies, or trailer trash. No one on this thread including myself has made the statement "the South shall rise again." I never hear anyone say it except in movies. I use the term "Yankee" in a light-hearted way. It has nothing to do with a refusal to move on. I argue history all the time, because I love history. I spent 4 years in college getting a degree in history because I love it so much. Tradition and preservation of your culture is not a vice.
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What with your 'common knowledge' stats and all? That's hilarious. Thanks though. I love to laugh.
Again read the link or watch the video link I posted about the acceptability of common knowledge in writing.
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I said the rebel flag is frequently accompanied by such a phrase, on flags, banners, bumper stickers, etc., which supports my earlier point about it being an archaic symbol of dissent or the intent to dissent and therefore the inability of 'southerners' to move the fuck on and join the rest of us in the present.
You're not making a point. You're making a prejudiced, broad generalization.
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See previous point about most Texans (as well as most Americans) not seeing Texas as part of "the south."
I live 2 hours away from the Texas border, Smith. I lived outside of Corpus Christi briefly. Most Texans I've met consider Texas to be part of the South. Since you're so fond of citation, where is your citation backing up this argument. By the way, this is not something that would fall under common knowledge. You're making an assumption.
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And yet, here Texas is....centuries later, able to move on and let things the fuck go. Funny folks in "the south" can't do that. THAT is where Texas differs from the rest of "the south." We have our own flag, which no one sees as a symbol of racism. We no longer hold to the ideals that spawned slavery. And we no longer swear to the "yankees" that we'll rise again. We're quite happy being a state.
Every state has their own flag. Texas isn't different in that regard. Texas didn't move on centuries later. It fully participated in Jim Crowe, and held on to segregation all the way up until the late 1960's. If you believe that people don't see Texas in a racist light, than you don't pay attention to the what others say about your state. In every conversation I've ever had with a foreigner or a northerner where Texas comes up, the death penalty gets brought up. That's what Texas is known for around the world. Oh that, and guys dragging black men to their deaths behind pickup trucks.
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And since no one from our modern time was actually *there,* I'm afraid no one will ever concinve me that Texas' reason for being in the confederacy wasn't largely for self-preservation. You think for one second that if Texas were closer to the north than it was to the south, that we'd have opted for confederacy? I don't. We borrowed the Union's help against mexico, we merc-ed for the south in the civil war. And here we are today....delightly exluded when someone refers to "those backwoods rednecks in the south."
I don't need to have been there. The history of Texas participation in the Confederacy and the reasons are well documented through records, letters, and books from the time period. Texas joined the Confederacy for many of the same reasons that the other southern states did. It was an agricultural state just like the rest of the South, and the fears from Abraham Lincoln's presidency were just as prevalent there as they were in Mississippi. As for your assertion that Texas is excluded from "those backwoods rednecks in the South" that's just laughable. The propensity for the death penalty, the prevalence of white nationalist groups, and incidents like a black man being drug behind a pickup to his death don't make Texas seem enlightened.
< Message edited by slaveboyforyou -- 6/3/2008 8:43:44 PM >
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