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RE: ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!! STOP SENDING SPAM!!!!!! - 6/2/2008 11:45:23 AM   
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RE: ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!! STOP SENDING SPAM!!!!!! - 6/2/2008 11:52:47 AM   
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Thank you for responding to my message with respect and courtesy.

I understand perfectly well that the structure of internet dating is probably not going to change much, but what's the harm in trying? Rather than suffer in silence I decided to at least make an attempt to cut down on the spam. As Gandhi says "be the change you want to see in the world."

Yes understand that most of the people who read the forums probably are not the ones who send spam. Of course. I get that. But I still think that posting my feelings might do a least a LITTLE good, and really what's the harm? Who was hurt by my attempt to make the site better for everyone?

I want to say to all the people who instantly pounced on my post to insult me, called me a "Whiner" and told me to relax... I think maybe you need to take your own advice. Relax, there's no need to throw insults at me.

Yes, i worded my original post harshly, in the hopes that it would draw attention, so that more people would read it, so that it might actually have some small effect. But I am not hurting anyone. Relax.

-Zen

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RE: ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!! STOP SENDING SPAM!!!!!! - 6/2/2008 11:53:36 AM   
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Does this mean you're not interested in the tens of millions of dollars in inheritance I require assistance with in moving said sum from the UNITED FEDERATED NATIONAL BANK OF ZIMBAFRICA? It will only require a modest investment of time and your credit card number.

Otherwise I have some MORTGAGE ENLARGMENT PILLS that might be of interest.

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RE: ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!! STOP SENDING SPAM!!!!!! - 6/2/2008 11:55:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterZen22

Steel,

Thank you for responding to my message with respect and courtesy.

I understand perfectly well that the structure of internet dating is probably not going to change much, but what's the harm in trying? Rather than suffer in silence I decided to at least make an attempt to cut down on the spam. As Gandhi says "be the change you want to see in the world."

Yes understand that most of the people who read the forums probably re not the ones who send spam. Of course. I get that. But I still think that posting my feelings might do a least a LITTLE good, and really what's the harm? Who was hurt by my attempt to make the site better for everyone?

I want to say to all the people who instantly pounced on my post to insult me, called me a "Whiner" and told me to relax... I think maybe you need to take your own advice. Relax, there's no need to throw insults at me.

Yes, i worded my original post harshly, in the hopes that it would draw attention, so that more people would read it, so that it might actually have some small effect. But I am not hurting anyone There's no need to throw insults at me. Relax.

-Zen


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Ah, I applaud your effort. Maybe some will listen, maybe not but it doesn't hurt to say it out LOUD sometimes.

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RE: ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!! STOP SENDING SPAM!!!!!! - 6/2/2008 11:55:53 AM   
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So you get generic, clearly form letters from women? Fascinating...


Quite a few every so often.  Some girls, who sent me spam months before, do it all over again because they already forgot.

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RE: ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!! STOP SENDING SPAM!!!!!! - 6/2/2008 11:59:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TermsConditions

DEAR SIR,

Does this mean you're not interested in the tens of millions of dollars in inheritance I require assistance with in moving said sum from the UNITED FEDERATED NATIONAL BANK OF ZIMBAFRICA? It will only require a modest investment of time and your credit card number.

Otherwise I have some MORTGAGE ENLARGMENT PILLS that might be of interest.




HaHa ;-)

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RE: ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!! STOP SENDING SPAM!!!!!! - 6/2/2008 12:05:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subtee

Ah, I applaud your effort. Maybe some will listen, maybe not but it doesn't hurt to say it out LOUD sometimes.



Thank you subtee, I hope you have fantastic day.


:-)

-Zen

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RE: ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!! STOP SENDING SPAM!!!!!! - 6/2/2008 12:07:23 PM   
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... Do ya really think those "spammers" participate on this side?


Probably not, but there's always the possibility their attention will be caught by the forum scroll. 

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RE: ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!! STOP SENDING SPAM!!!!!! - 6/2/2008 12:15:47 PM   
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ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!!! ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!!!

STOP SENDING FORM LETTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Many men on this website, (both Doms and Submissive) have the disturbing tactic of sending hundreds of forms letters out to the women, without ever even reading their profiles. Well I have news for you:

THEY DON”T WORK AND YOU ARE RUINING IT FOR EVERYONE.

As a result of this spam, the women’s mail boxes get overflowed, with meaningless emails that show zero interest in their profiles. That sucks and is annoying for them. So the women get screwed. And then many women get so disillusioned with the men of this site, that they almost never write to the men. So the men get screwed too. THE SPAM IS SUCKING THE LIFE OUT OF US.

The solution is simple. Everyone needs to read people’s profiles carefully BEFORE, writing letters to them and create unique, personalized mail. If more people stop sending 1000 identical emails per day, then the women will be less overwhelmed, and the men will get more responses. Everyone wins.

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RE: ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!! STOP SENDING SPAM!!!!!! - 6/2/2008 12:19:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterZen22
And then many women get so disillusioned with the men of this site, that they almost never write to the men. So the men get screwed too. THE SPAM IS SUCKING THE LIFE OUT OF US.

False.

Spam is the friend of the man who actually reads profiles.  You stand out much more clearly.  Think of it like the only spot of color in a drab grey background.

Use the situation to your benefit.

If women are not writing you back, it is not somebody else's fault.


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RE: ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!! STOP SENDING SPAM!!!!!! - 6/2/2008 12:22:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterZen22


quote:

ORIGINAL: subtee

Ah, I applaud your effort. Maybe some will listen, maybe not but it doesn't hurt to say it out LOUD sometimes.



Thank you subtee, I hope you have fantastic day.


:-)

-Zen


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RE: ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!! STOP SENDING SPAM!!!!!! - 6/2/2008 12:24:53 PM   
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RE: ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!! STOP SENDING SPAM!!!!!! - 6/2/2008 12:25:04 PM   
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I, personally, see the form letter as a bit of a time saver. It let me know who I shouldn't waste my time on.

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RE: ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!! STOP SENDING SPAM!!!!!! - 6/2/2008 12:25:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY


Probably not, but there's always the possibility their attention will be caught by the forum scroll.




Treasure, you are EXACTLY right! I think many of the new users do not realize that the male and female halves of this site have a very different experience, especially in terms of the sheer volume of meaningless email they receive. By having a discussion about it, we just might educate some newbies in the process.

By openly and freely discussing these issues, we can (hopefully) raise the quality of experience for everyone.

-Zen

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RE: ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!! STOP SENDING SPAM!!!!!! - 6/2/2008 12:29:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		i agree with Zen.. when i get a mail that shows no sign a person (male or female) even glanced at my profile i usually reply back kindly saying something like, read my rpofile.. then well talk.. i dont get many replys from them after that.. spamming can be fun yes.. but it gets annoying when u get 5+ mails from ppl that havent look at ur profile.. let alone read it.

H >:)

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RE: ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!! STOP SENDING SPAM!!!!!! - 6/2/2008 12:39:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterZen22
I think many of the new users do not realize that the male and female halves of this site have a very different experience, especially in terms of the sheer volume of meaningless email they receive. By having a discussion about it, we just might educate some newbies in the process.

By openly and freely discussing these issues, we can (hopefully) raise the quality of experience for everyone.

-Zen


It's one thing to have a calm and rational discussion about a given topic and quite another to come into a forum cyber yelling and demanding folks do things exactly the way you want them done.

That doesn't work any better than sending out spam as you can see by the responses you generated. You had a few who jumped on your bandwagon but most won't. The spammers do the exact same thing. Sometimes sending out that spam works and that's why they do it. Sometimes coming into a cyber forum and pitching a hissy fit works, too.

Perhaps you'll learn something as well?

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RE: ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!! STOP SENDING SPAM!!!!!! - 6/2/2008 12:53:46 PM   
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Unlike spam, this is a discussion board. This is a place where people are ENCOURAGED to share their ideas in order to spark interesting conversations. If you do not like this topic, no one is forcing you to read it or respond to it, you are welcome to leave. Spam on the other hand, can become an invasion of your private space when it piles up in huge amounts. That is the difference.

As for your other remarks, as I said earlier:

"I understand perfectly well that the structure of internet dating is probably not going to change much, but what's the harm in trying? Rather than suffer in silence I decided to at least make an attempt to cut down on the spam. As Gandhi says "be the change you want to see in the world."

Yes I understand that most of the people who read the forums probably are not the ones who send spam. Of course. I get that. But I still think that posting my feelings might do a least a LITTLE good, and really what's the harm? Who was hurt by my attempt to make the site better for everyone?

I want to say to all the people who instantly pounced on my post to insult me, called me a "Whiner" and told me to relax... I think maybe you need to take your own advice. Relax, there's no need to throw insults at me.

Yes, i worded my original post harshly, in the hopes that it would draw attention, so that more people would read it, so that it might actually have some small effect. But I am not hurting anyone."

-Zen



< Message edited by MasterZen22 -- 6/2/2008 1:04:52 PM >

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RE: ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!! STOP SENDING SPAM!!!!!! - 6/2/2008 12:56:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

It's one thing to have a calm and rational discussion about a given topic and quite another to come into a forum cyber yelling and demanding folks do things exactly the way you want them done.

That doesn't work any better than sending out spam as you can see by the responses you generated. You had a few who jumped on your bandwagon but most won't. The spammers do the exact same thing. Sometimes sending out that spam works and that's why they do it. Sometimes coming into a cyber forum and pitching a hissy fit works, too.


Ah, but his point wasn't really to lecture all the spammers -- instead it was to appear like a knight in shining armor to help protect all the delicate submissive gals around here. So he's really exactly like the spammers -- same motive, but rather than spamming by e-mail he spams the message board. Dumb move, though, because at least the spammers don't open themselves up to public ridicule, so they may actually have better luck at it.


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RE: ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!! STOP SENDING SPAM!!!!!! - 6/2/2008 1:00:06 PM   
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LOL, I respectfully disagree, clever reasoning though!

Best of luck.

-Zen

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RE: ATTENTION ALL MEN!!!! STOP SENDING SPAM!!!!!! - 6/2/2008 1:02:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterZen22

Spam on the other hand, can become an invasion of your private space



oh please ... its an email on a public personals site, where you have posted a profile which 80% of the time (or more) states you are in some way looking to communicate with strangers (either as friends or as more)

this being the case how is your Collar Me inbox *ever* any kind of private space, it is an electronic drop box that you have volunteered to have in your name with the intent of being sent things

its an email ... not rape ... its a petty annoyance .. not a life trauma

(and personally quite likes the spammy emails .. makes me feel wanted and when i am really bored... I correct the grammar and send them back)

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