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RE: Would Y/you Know What to Do? - 6/3/2008 12:52:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		I personally think thats the way to go for many reasons.
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Never mind. I went on a tangent.

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RE: Would Y/you Know What to Do? - 6/3/2008 2:31:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Gawd, Blushes, that had me laughing out loud. Arrested doesn't mean charged, it just means taken into custody. So unless I was arrested on suspicion of something serious, I'd likely do as you would - be co-operative. I've been arrested twice, the police on both occasions were very nice to me. The first time I was fourteen and arrested on suspicion of shoplifting (I hadn't stolen anything, a friend I was with had pocketed something in a store) - guilty by association, the second occasion I was having sex in a truck - we had driven off-road to engage in our carnal pleasures except we hadn't realised (likely b/c it was in the middle of the night and bloody dark) we'd turned off and onto a private runway! We were cautioned on that occasion.
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Everyone who said be respectful and keep your mouth shut (within reason) is right.
I, unfortunately, am the kind of person who "really wants to help" so...I'd be singing like a canary even if I had nothing to say.
My thoughts would be since I'm innocent, I have nothing to worry about.
I couldn't be more wrong, of course, but...I do know myself...


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RE: Would Y/you Know What to Do? - 6/3/2008 5:39:51 AM   
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RE: Would Y/you Know What to Do? - 6/3/2008 5:50:36 AM   
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Family bailed me out, however, even after the bail was paid back, the amount of crap the family kept slingin' made me wish that I had just spent the twelve days in lockup

LOL...no kidding.  I didn't have that problem but know what you mean.  I ended up spending four months and I made it through.  I am a much stronger person for it and, unlike some, it really did wise me up.  That little taste was like taking a "little taste" of an electric socket.  One was all it took to school me...........luci

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RE: Would Y/you Know What to Do? - 6/3/2008 5:52:06 AM   
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Thank you, Luci, for telling that story.

You're welcome.  I try to remind myself of it from time to time just to recall where I was in comparison to where I am now.  Worlds apart...................luci

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RE: Would Y/you Know What to Do? - 6/3/2008 6:23:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Exactly what slaveboy said. Shut up and say nothing.  Here is a great site for insisting on things like your civil liberites and what to do if you are arrested.  http://www.aclu.org/police/gen/14528res20040730.html


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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

Yeah, I know what to do....You keep your mouth shut.  The police are not your friends when you get arrested.  I don't care what they offer you or what they tell you.....you don't say shit without a lawyer present. 


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RE: Would Y/you Know What to Do? - 6/3/2008 6:31:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		My sister-in-law was arrested and accused of stealing money from her job.  She was put into a room with three cops who badgered her and refused her requests for a lawyer.  They threatened all sorts of things until they finally got her to sign a statement that she did it.  The funny thing was, she wasn't even there on the night in question.  Thats the thing that saved her dumb ass.  When she proved that, one of the cops admitted to what his cohorts had done and her "confession" was thrown out.  The city had to settle out of court for the actions of the cops. 

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RE: Would Y/you Know What to Do? - 6/3/2008 6:38:06 AM   
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RE: Would Y/you Know What to Do? - 6/3/2008 6:44:33 AM   
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RE: Would Y/you Know What to Do? - 6/3/2008 7:01:14 AM   
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one thing NOT to do (voice of experience, here): do NOT demonstrate to the arresting officer one's ability to slip out of handcuffs.


Actually, that is one thing I did do. Held up my hand and said "I don't think this is going to stay on" with the trailing cuff hanging. Of course, I had already spent some time with her and was already on friendly terms.

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RE: Would Y/you Know What to Do? - 6/3/2008 7:04:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		The cop that cuffed me was a rookie, fresh out of the academy.  Trying to make an impression on his partner.  When he realized I'd slipped out of the cuffs, he put them back on..TIGHTLY.. not quite cutting off circulation, but close. Left bruises on me that lasted about 2 weeks.
I heard his partner comment " thats why you put the cuffs BEHIND the wristbone, and make sure they're snug".

Bet that kid never had anyone else slip out! 

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RE: Would Y/you Know What to Do? - 6/3/2008 7:14:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

Retainer is a different concept.  This requires no money up front, and is a standard practice.

I posted because a poster I like said she would pee her pants, and I saw it scrolling by.  Many people stutter, or plan to say nothing and start talking because the police are insistent, and they don't want to be anti-authority.  Having something in writing is much safer.



i wouldn't pee my pants out of spite, i'd do it because i'd be terrified...i've never been in trouble with the police before so being arrested would just do me in, i probably wouldn't even be able to talk coherently.  i'd probably be drooling on myself and my eyes would roll to the back of my head lol. 

i do see your point about having something in writing, and i'll just keep steering clear of trouble as long as i can.... 

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RE: Would Y/you Know What to Do? - 6/3/2008 7:57:26 AM   
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RE: Would Y/you Know What to Do? - 6/3/2008 9:08:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you are arrested, and brought into a holding cell, or interrogation room, all you have to say, by law, is, "I'd like to speak to an Attorney", and say nothing more.

By law, once you ask for representation, the Officer's are bound, by law, to stop asking questions, until an Attorney is present.

There's no guarantee the Cop will stop questioning you, and may even claim you need to help him now, so he can help you later. Just repeat that you would like to speak to an Attorney, and then shut up.

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RE: Would Y/you Know What to Do? - 6/3/2008 12:13:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		The lawyer who did your divorce is certainly capable of handling immediate issues on the day of arrest. And should be well able to recommend someone to handle the rest of the case. But what you want immediately is someone that will attest you won't run and avoid coming into court. That's the purpose of bail, it presumes you will show up to answer charges as otherwise you will forfeit a lot of money.

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RE: Would Y/you Know What to Do? - 6/3/2008 3:13:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pinksugarsub

Just curious...if Y/you were arrested, would Y/you know what to do?  How to talk to the cops or keep quiet?  How to qualify for a public defender?  How to post bail?
 
There's a bail bond company here running ads looking for people to be trained and hired as bail agents; got me to thinking.
 
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RE: Would Y/you Know What to Do? - 6/3/2008 4:04:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pinksugarsub

Just curious...if Y/you were arrested, would Y/you know what to do?  How to talk to the cops or keep quiet?  How to qualify for a public defender?  How to post bail?
 
There's a bail bond company here running ads looking for people to be trained and hired as bail agents; got me to thinking.
 
pinksugarsub


Of course! The first thing I do is inform the intake officer that I've got a history of hiding contraband, so they better make sure they do a very thorough body cavity search. (For all the folks who are still wondering where Hoffa is buried.. well, I 'know'. )

Also, and I think everyone should jump on this bandwagon, metal cuffs are, of course, adequate in the restraint department, but they do tend to chaff one a bit so I'd ask for either some leather cuffs or, better yet, a nice pair of hospital restraints. Then, we're all happy. If I must, I'll go a little cuckoo and maybe I can even snag a straight jacket outta it. Just, you know -- at least until I've gotten to know you better.

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edited to fix a Freudian slip!

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RE: Would Y/you Know What to Do? - 6/3/2008 4:38:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Never been arrested and hopefully never will be, but I learned a long time ago not to automatically trust cops or believe that in such situations that they are on your side.  The best thing to do is keep your mouth shut except to ask for a lawyer, even though doing so makes you appear that much more guilty in their eyes.  Just sickening.

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RE: Would Y/you Know What to Do? - 6/3/2008 4:45:35 PM   
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Never been arrested and hopefully never will be, but I learned a long time ago not to automatically trust cops or believe that in such situations that they are on your side. The best thing to do is keep your mouth shut except to ask for a lawyer, even though doing so makes you appear that much more guilty in their eyes. Just sickening.

Police like you to think that certain acts make you appear "guilty". It gives them a power that is not theirs to claim either morally or legally.

The reality of American jurisprudence is that such is impossible. One cannot be or even appear "guilty" under the law until there is a trial AND a conviction. Until twelve men in a jury box say otherwise, a man is fully, wholly, and totally INNOCENT.

A cop who pretends otherwise is pretty much violating your civil rights (something cops are quite adept at).

When a cop says you're guilty--demand to be charged on the spot. When they decline, get up and leave.

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RE: Would Y/you Know What to Do? - 6/3/2008 4:57:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

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ORIGINAL: servantheart

Never been arrested and hopefully never will be, but I learned a long time ago not to automatically trust cops or believe that in such situations that they are on your side. The best thing to do is keep your mouth shut except to ask for a lawyer, even though doing so makes you appear that much more guilty in their eyes. Just sickening.

Police like you to think that certain acts make you appear "guilty". It gives them a power that is not theirs to claim either morally or legally.

The reality of American jurisprudence is that such is impossible. One cannot be or even appear "guilty" under the law until there is a trial AND a conviction. Until twelve men in a jury box say otherwise, a man is fully, wholly, and totally INNOCENT.

A cop who pretends otherwise is pretty much violating your civil rights (something cops are quite adept at).

When a cop says you're guilty--demand to be charged on the spot. When they decline, get up and leave.


All very true.  However, when watching all those true crime shows I love so much like The First 48, etc. I am reminded that many cops and detectives do in fact believe that "an innocent person doesn't need a lawyer" or "He's lawyering up....must have something to hide".  I find it frightening that just because a person doesn't trust cops b/c of the preponderance of evidence proving that shoddy interrogation techniques and aggressive questioning by authorities can make people admit to crimes they never committed, that the person is considered guilty in the eyes of many the very people sworn "to protect and to serve".  We have to protect ourselves sometimes from them.  Sad, but true.

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