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RE: Nationalize the oil Companies - 6/6/2008 7:18:13 PM   
JohnSteed1967


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Status: offline 		When I think of BP and EXXON, and the other oil companies out there I think one thing:

Arbect Mach Frie

Because all we are are slave to the oil company Power Barons!

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RE: Nationalize the oil Companies - 6/6/2008 7:26:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JohnSteed1967

When I think of BP and EXXON, and the other oil companies out there I think one thing:

Arbect Mach Frie

Because all we are are slave to the oil company Power Barons!
What language is that? 

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RE: Nationalize the oil Companies - 6/6/2008 7:26:50 PM   
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How much environmental damage has nuclear energy done compared to oil energy?

If you believe all the hoopla about us causing global warming, nuclear has done far less damage.  Even if you don't buy that we are the main cause of global warming, add together all of the pollution from burning fossil fuels and the destruction caused by oil spills and similar accidents.  Compare that to the real damage done by nuclear power.  Oil and fossil fuels are dirtier and more costly in the long run.

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RE: Nationalize the oil Companies - 6/6/2008 7:29:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's mostly because you have failed to update to the facts of the modern oil markets. Those companies own only 4% of the liquid oil in the world, the rest of their raw materials to produce gasoline they buy on the NYME at the reported price in the news from those people who own it. 77% of those owners being Nationalized Oil Like Suadi Arabia and Venezuella.
Remember all the big private companies lost control of all that oil in Venezuella not too long ago. it USED to belong to them, now it bellongs to the Nationalized Oil Company of Venezuella PDVSA (Petróleos de Venezuela, S.A.) Venezuela’s state-owned petroleum company.


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RE: Nationalize the oil Companies - 6/6/2008 7:30:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JohnSteed1967

When I think of BP and EXXON, and the other oil companies out there I think one thing:

Arbect Mach Frie

Because all we are are slave to the oil company Power Barons!


JA.  Arbeiten Machten Frei. 


Ich Kann deis.

Arbeiten Machten Frei,
Hermann G

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RE: Nationalize the oil Companies - 6/6/2008 7:31:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnSteed1967

When I think of BP and EXXON, and the other oil companies out there I think one thing:

Arbect Mach Frie

Because all we are are slave to the oil company Power Barons!
What language is that? 


I am sure I misspelled it but it supposed to be German, it is supposed to read "Work Makes Free" It is what they put above The gates at the German Death Camps.

Because you can't tell me that the monied in this country won't work us to death and leave 90% of the Population Broke and Dumb.

Like En Vouge said "Free Your Mind and The Rest will Follow"

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RE: Nationalize the oil Companies - 6/6/2008 7:55:03 PM   
Hippiekinkster


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ORIGINAL: JohnSteed1967

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnSteed1967

When I think of BP and EXXON, and the other oil companies out there I think one thing:

Arbect Mach Frie

Because all we are are slave to the oil company Power Barons!
What language is that? 


I am sure I misspelled it but it supposed to be German, it is supposed to read "Work Makes Free" It is what they put above The gates at the German Death Camps.

Because you can't tell me that the monied in this country won't work us to death and leave 90% of the Population Broke and Dumb.

Like En Vouge said "Free Your Mind and The Rest will Follow"

It is indeed Deutsch.
"Arbeit macht frei" is the phrase.
Arbeit, feminine noun, = work
macht, verb, present indicative (präsens) 3rd person singular or 2nd person plural of machen, = makes
frei, adjective, = free

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RE: Nationalize the oil Companies - 6/6/2008 10:27:15 PM   
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If you believe all the hoopla about us causing global warming, nuclear has done far less damage.  Even if you don't buy that we are the main cause of global warming, add together all of the pollution from burning fossil fuels and the destruction caused by oil spills and similar accidents.  Compare that to the real damage done by nuclear power.  Oil and fossil fuels are dirtier and more costly in the long run.


My point exactly.  There has only been one really bad nuclear accident and that was from a reactor built by the same people who couldn't even cobble together a decent washing machine.

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RE: Nationalize the oil Companies - 6/6/2008 10:34:44 PM   
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Because you can't tell me that the monied in this country won't work us to death and leave 90% of the Population Broke and Dumb.


If 90% of the population is broke and dumb who would buy the products the rich need to sell in order to stay rich? Even if we accept your bias (which I do not, but for the sake of argument...) that the monied (what’s the dividing line? what dollar amount do you have to have to be considered "monied"?) are evil bastards that want to leave 90% us broke and dumb, they would not be able to sustain such a system for long. Systems seek equilibrium.

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