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RE: Posers~~(men as women) - 6/6/2008 10:05:27 AM

CruelDesires

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So Lesbian Dominants are not true lesbians if they have a male service submissive? Do you hear what you are saying? Seriously?

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RE: Posers~~(men as women) - 6/6/2008 10:10:40 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: CruelDesires

So Lesbian Dominants are not true lesbians if they have a male service submissive? Do you hear what you are saying? Seriously?

CD

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It would seem that way... I guess I'm going to turn in my card and all my rainbow shit... let my partner know.. oh and take all the stuff off my helmets and my car...

damn I have a busy weekend ahead of me...and when I'm done, I'll curl up in a little ball on my bed and cry myself to sleep...

oh wait.. maybe not...

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RE: Posers~~(men as women) - 6/6/2008 10:15:55 AM

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ORIGINAL: MindysDominion

What is wrong with you men pretending to be women?? I really do NOT understand that. Whatever it is you are in search of, then list it as yourself, not as a poser. I can gaurantee you, you will find what you are seeking!
AS a Lesbian Domme, I can tell you no matter how good your profile looks or sounds, meeting a poser and making it work, will NEVER work. Just have that in your mind when you do contact another lesbian! So many men think that if they pretend to be a woman and get to know Me, that when it does come to the actual meet, I will change My sexual preference and take then as My sub! NOWAY!!! All you are doing is lieing to yourself! No lesbian wants a man in any form as her sub. Get a life and be yourself.

Im looking for a true honest and very real female sub! so men, get the clue and back the frack off!

So how come you are so sure it's a man, and not say for example, a transitioning transgendered female?

And who appointed you spokesperson for all lesbians?

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RE: Posers~~(men as women) - 6/6/2008 10:17:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: MindysDominion

DV,
I have no problem with them acting out a fantasy, great wonderful. My problem is that they lie and deceive others about it. And being A Domme I find it very disrespectful and dishonorable that My time is wasted when in truth nothing will come of it. It is only after spending time chatting that the truth comes out.

Me neither, as long as they don't involve ME in their fantasy!
I can't tell you how many hours of my time was wasted by some guy online who wanted to play "girl."
If you have a penis and testicles and don't have a vagina uterus you are not and never will be a "girl."
If you don't have a penis and testicles you can't get into the boy scouts.
That is all.

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RE: Posers~~(men as women) - 6/6/2008 10:22:32 AM

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Okay, this gave me a chuckle. A dominant lesbian cannot be a lesbian if she dominates men...too funny.

So, I guess that means a heterosexual woman cannot dominate a female and be heterosexual, too. Gee, I guess that means I'm bisexual. So, now that I'm bisexual and all, ladies, please remember, I'm not interested in sex with you, and you don't turn me on, though some of you are quite attractive...but, the only way I can dominate you is to claim bisexuality now. I'm so confused, I think I'm gonna go cry.

I can relate to the 'pretending to be something you are not in hopes of convincing you that i'm worth your time' crap being overly annoying. But get real. A dominant can be dominant to any gender regardless of sexual orientation. Dominance is a mental aspect, sex is generally a physical act with mental components. Dominance does not require sex.

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RE: Posers~~(men as women) - 6/6/2008 10:30:51 AM

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MindysDominion,

Please clarify, have you met submissive men who actually went to the trouble of making a fake profile, setting up a fake meeting and then trying to convince you to change your orientation for them?

Or did you merely discover some profiles were fake? If the person who created the profile did not try to set up a meeting that would mean they had different motivations, and were only acting out a fantasy.

This sounds interesting.

-Zen

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RE: Posers~~(men as women) - 6/6/2008 10:35:35 AM

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ORIGINAL: tsatske

I think the OP is just frustrated because she has had people lie to her. it's understandable.
When your first post is angry and annoyed and pissed off, it does not come across well. This is why my advice is always: reply to a hundred posts before you start one. This gives you time to get to know a new internet group or site you are on - every site is different. get to know people.

VERY good advice. MY first post was a bit angry, and people TORE into me. I had only wanted to vent, but suddenly 6 people I didn't know spent the next 2 hours insulting me again and again and again. It was a very negative experience, I could have used this advice back then.

I hope MindysDominion does not feel too upset by the remarks she has gotten (although most seemed respectful), it'd be a shame if she got jaded against the forums

-Zen

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RE: Posers~~(men as women) - 6/6/2008 12:31:18 PM

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the fakes will all ways be there even when you meet them and then just have to get to know them

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RE: Posers~~(men as women) - 6/6/2008 12:42:34 PM

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Yes, MasterZen,
But then i almost feel the need to apologize, for taking up for her, when she declared that she had the Langue Francais definition of "homosexual, heterosexual, bi, TS or TG", and apparently some of us just don't make the cut.
I have known heterosexual Male Masters who were more than willing to top a male subbie - males subs who preferred to be topped by men, even though they were strait, male bi or gay sub men who preferred serving strait men (there is often a humiliation aspect to it that they, personally, do not get from another gay man) - the ways that human beings can permeate our own sexuality can not be ticked off into a handful of single words with hardened steel definitions!
At the time i met Master, my own interest in traditional sex was waning to the point that i had just about decided that i was not so much bi, as a Lesbian who liked to bottom to men. (and Master is rather blown up about his changing my opinion on that one! MEN!)
There are no simple definitions when it comes to sexuality. This is just pandering to the stupid, closeminded American idea that spreads, like poison, out from the idea that if a man ever touches another man, the he is gay. how stupid! we are all complex humans with a complex soup of sexual responses going on inside of us!
It reminds me of Ellen Degeneress's comment, on her sitcom, in the episode where she kissed an old high school boyfriend, that, 'Yes, but I'm a Lesbian now! I can't go around kissing men, it's sort of against the spirit of the thing!' Like Madame4a said, are the Rainbow police gonna come take your rainbow stickers away? (Ellen can be excused, she is, after all, a comedian.)
OP, is it all right with you that i consider myself Queer, or have you got an official definition of that, too, which, as a 40 year old, mother of three, living with one man in the middle of God's country, going to church every Sunday and Wednesday and working at the world's most mundane, strait job in the care of children, i bet i just don't qualify for, eh?

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RE: Posers~~(men as women) - 6/6/2008 1:05:14 PM

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Gawd I just love a good cat fight..

More mud, ladies ? And remember, no rules...*ding ding*

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RE: Posers~~(men as women) - 6/6/2008 1:07:33 PM

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Poser<-------fap fap fap fap fap fap fap.....whut?

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RE: Posers~~(men as women) - 6/6/2008 1:18:07 PM

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to faery, Master does not mean "man". It means: a person with the ability or power to use, control, an owner of a slave, a person whose teachings others accept or follow and dominant.
of or relating to or characterized by homosexual relations between women When it comes right down to it, homosexual, heterosexual, bi, TS or TG just be honest with what you want and who you are.

yes i know it does...but it just seems odd "lesbian master". and in my 10 yrs bdsm experience like i said earlier i've never heard of it.

oh and you forgot to include "intersexed" under the be honest with what you want and who you are. yes. we do exist and we are not ts/tg or whatever. we are a whole different physical form of life.

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RE: Posers~~(men as women) - 6/6/2008 1:48:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: MindysDominion

To Madame I would then say you are not a real lesbian.

And who are you to tell someone if they are a lesbian or not.

The thought of domming a man when I am a lesbian goes against the entire meaning of lesbian

Total bull, 'domming' a man doesn't have to have anything to do with sexual orientation. I know lots of lesbians who top males all the time and they are no less lesbians than anyone else.

and against My coreself.

That is your self and something you have to deal with
I dont see it as narrowm minded at all when if you look at the definition of lesbian, it states:
of or relating to or characterized by homosexual relations between women When it comes right down to it, homosexual, heterosexual, bi, TS or TG just be honest with what you want and who you are.

My apologies to both subs. Yes your time is just as important to us Dommes.

If you don't want to top a guy, more power to you. Don't expect everyone you meet online to be honest, they won't be, that's the internet. If you worried about people lying, go to real life events and what you see is what you get.

Oh and quit telling other people what their sexual orientation is....it's none of your business and you just prove how little you know of other people.

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RE: Posers~~(men as women) - 6/6/2008 1:52:14 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Madame4a

quote:

ORIGINAL: CruelDesires

So Lesbian Dominants are not true lesbians if they have a male service submissive? Do you hear what you are saying? Seriously?

CD

*grinning*

It would seem that way... I guess I'm going to turn in my card and all my rainbow shit... let my partner know.. oh and take all the stuff off my helmets and my car...

damn I have a busy weekend ahead of me...and when I'm done, I'll curl up in a little ball on my bed and cry myself to sleep...

oh wait.. maybe not...

Hey, I want your rainbow stuff, don't throw it away. I love rainbows

But not cause I'm a lesbian or anything, cause I let a man top me and accordin' to the OP I must not be gay any more...does this mean I have to give back the toaster?

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RE: Posers~~(men as women) - 6/6/2008 1:53:51 PM

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

quote:

ORIGINAL: MindysDominion

DV,
I have no problem with them acting out a fantasy, great wonderful. My problem is that they lie and deceive others about it. And being A Domme I find it very disrespectful and dishonorable that My time is wasted when in truth nothing will come of it. It is only after spending time chatting that the truth comes out.

Me neither, as long as they don't involve ME in their fantasy!
I can't tell you how many hours of my time was wasted by some guy online who wanted to play "girl."
If you have a penis and testicles and don't have a vagina uterus you are not and never will be a "girl."
If you don't have a penis and testicles you can't get into the boy scouts.
That is all.

I can't get into the boy scouts, does that mean I can involve you in my fantasy?

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RE: Posers~~(men as women) - 6/6/2008 1:57:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: cjan

Gawd I just love a good cat fight..

More mud, ladies ? And remember, no rules...*ding ding*

Mud can be nice, but please consider olive oil...see through ya know, but still slippery as hell.

I once got pinned down by 90lb little hottie and I can't say I fought very hard.

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RE: Posers~~(men as women) - 6/6/2008 1:59:46 PM

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Anyone can get into the boyscouts all you need is pushy parents that would rather be going out on the raz than bringing up kids.

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RE: Posers~~(men as women) - 6/6/2008 2:00:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

yes. we do exist and we are not ts/tg or whatever. we are a whole different physical form of life.

While I would never suggest you don't exist, it would be awesome if you could make it to Detroit so some of us could at least meet ya.

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RE: Posers~~(men as women) - 6/6/2008 2:01:44 PM

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Anyone can get into the boyscouts all you need is pushy parents that would rather be going out on the raz than bringing up kids.

Yea but is getting into the boyscouts worth trading parents for. I think I will stick with the ones I got and leave the boy scouts to the boys.

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RE: Posers~~(men as women) - 6/6/2008 2:14:33 PM

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This is annoying.

Op..... Welcome to the Internet, guess what all those people wanting to give you millions of dollars if you cash the check in america yeah they are full of shit too.

This is the Medium you choose to use to make contact.

Well Lady SUCK IT UP! If you have been at this long enough to think you deserve the title of Master then you should know full well what you will be dealing with in the ONLINE MEDIUM THAT IS THE INTERNET.

You sound like a child who got upset when the Submarine Ad from the back of your archie comic book sent you a cardboard Box and a Perascope. Welcome to the world you have chosen.

You speak of Disrespect, I am sorry but respect is earned and so is trust, I hope perhaps you can learn a lesson on both.

I am not here to berate you ot poke fun at you but you know for someone who thinks so very highly of themselves you would think you would have more control of your personal demeanor.

Had you asked a simple question in a inquizical manner of "Why do men pose as women and if you are a Man who poses as a woman what do you think will happen when you are found out?" I would have been all for you, but instead you act as if this site and the people on it OWE you something.

Dating is Hard BDSM, Vanilla, Gay or Straight. Suck it up and deal with it. I used to know people who would say you gotta kiss a LOT of frogs before you find a prince. My feeling if you are looking for a prince and end up kissing frogs then you are looking in very wrong places.

In your case if you want PROOF of Feminine Content then take your search OFF LINE where all you have to do is look for an adams apple.

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