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Video / Audiophile Question - 6/9/2008 4:40:00 PM   
Mercnbeth


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Doing a home theater upgrade. Settling on the Sony KDL 52W4100 LCD and the Yamaha RX v3800BL receiver.

The room is 18x38. How big should I go for the speakers? Looking at the ProCinema 1000 system for the center and front, the 800BL sub-woofer, and 2 800's for the rears.

Going by a lot of internet research based upon the sales people recommendations. Would love to have input from anyone with expertise or experience.

Also would appreciate anyone who can provide feedback on something called a 'VUDU' Box. It's represented as having access to every movie ever made ready to play at your fingertips.

THANKS!
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RE: Video / Audiophile Question - 6/9/2008 5:38:04 PM   
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Personally, I think subwoofers *start* at 18". Anything smaller, and you're counting on the cabinet to make up the difference, and -- well -- some say it *can* be done, but I've never seen anyone pull it off. I notice the Bose people don't publish real specifications...

That said -- Yamaha doesn't suck. BUT from their site, that product line appears to have specs as:
Frequency Response 30 - 200 Hz
Which doesn't say *shit* about where it's -3dB points are, which *really* helps you understand it's limits.

I also like a PAIR of subwoofers... I have a *lot* of audio with stereo subwoofer content, which gets all mushy through a mono system...

I'm thinking something like these.. http://www.gilroydj.com/images/subwoofer.gif

If it's worth doing, it's worth over-doing.

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RE: Video / Audiophile Question - 6/9/2008 11:06:13 PM   
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As I understand it VUDU is basically a on demand DVR. It may have a more comprehensive library than the on demand service provided by your local cable company but the concept is essentially the same. I'd really want to see the whole movie catalog in some searchable format so I could see how obscure a movie has to get to not be available and if it is strictly limited to movies released on DVD before dropping $300 on the box.

Ultimately I guess I'd stick to Netflix unless you absolutely cannot wait a day or two to watch a movie.

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RE: Video / Audiophile Question - 6/10/2008 4:15:25 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

I'd really want to see the whole movie catalog in some searchable format so I could see how obscure a movie has to get to not be available and if it is strictly limited to movies released on DVD before dropping $300 on the box.



http://www.vudu.com/catalog/browser.cgi

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RE: Video / Audiophile Question - 6/10/2008 7:02:35 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

I'd really want to see the whole movie catalog in some searchable format so I could see how obscure a movie has to get to not be available and if it is strictly limited to movies released on DVD before dropping $300 on the box.



http://www.vudu.com/catalog/browser.cgi


Being able to browse the catalog 40 movies at a time isn't terribly helpful. I was looking for something like a title search capability. Although I will point out that based on how big the browse app says each category is their library is significantly smaller than Netflix.

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RE: Video / Audiophile Question - 6/10/2008 7:55:37 AM   
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Currently, VUDU is representing that they have 6000 movies in their data base, plus a limited TV show file.

Their selling point is that they've contracted with studios to eventually get to a point where 1st run movies will be available simultaneously to theatrical release. Nice marketing promise, but I wouldn't buy it planing on that outcome. The reasoning is that it will reduce the reason for pirating. Don't see how that will eliminate the guys currently selling CAM versions of the new Raiders movie for $5.00 in the Fashion District, but down the road who knows?

I'm interested because the current data base includes many foreign and older movies, often available for free viewing,  that are difficult to get anywhere. The search tool lets you dig by any actor, genre, and time period. VUDU also has high definition capability, and great audio.

For me, the biggest difference to something like Netflix ,or even a Blockbuster subscription, is that it provides instant gratification. No drive, no on-line ordering and waiting. You want to argue about the worst movie ever made, 'Plan 9 From Outer Space' or 'Ishtar'; and you can see as much as you can stomach of both that night. Best part, afterward, no re-packing, or no trip back to Blockbuster. You get 30 days from the date ordered to watch as much as you want without an additional charge. Also cool is that, since it is on-line, it adds to their data base daily. It also shows movie clips of new releases and makes recommendations based upon your buying history.

The only problem is currently the box only stores 50 movies, less if HD. However that is just to keep purchases and doesn't include 'retails'. I suspect that if VUDU takes off, its currently in limited distribution only through Magnolia/Best Buy, they will sell expansion cards.

The system gets delivered and installed today. I can't believe its going to take 12 'man-hours' of work, but I can't wait to come home from work and try it out.

The question now is; what is the first movie to watch in Blu Ray? The salesman said that the best application would be one of the animated films by Pixar released in BluRay format. beth's in her glory. she wants to get all the old Disney movies, put on her 'onesie', lay a blanket on the floor and watching they all. 'Bee-Movie' was his recommendation. Supposedly it best shows the 1080p capability of the TV. However, I want something that better utilized the audio side. When we were having the receiver and speakers demonstrated they used the D-Day beach landing scene from 'Saving Private Ryan'. The sound was amazing! I'm leaning to something more in line with a BluRay version of Star Wars or something along those lines. Is there BluRay porn?

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