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RE: No spaceships - 6/11/2008 2:09:35 PM   
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RE: No spaceships - 6/11/2008 2:29:03 PM   
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The Answer is 42.  (Now, can someone remind me what the Question was?)
 
And damnit, DA, now I'm hearing the ominus echo of Banjos in the background....

That was the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything.

dud de dum dum de dum de dum dum....

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RE: No spaceships - 6/11/2008 3:18:57 PM   
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What is 6 multiplied by 9.

To which Ford says "I always thought something was fundamentally wrong with the universe"

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RE: No spaceships - 6/11/2008 3:23:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		And in case you are wondeing what the Author of the Books answer to WHY 42?

A Quote:

"The answer to this is very simple. It was a joke. It had to be a number, an ordinary, smallish number, and I chose that one. Binary representations, Base Thirteen, Tibetian Monks are all complete nonsence. I sat at my desk, stared into the garden and thought '42 will do.' I typed it out. End of story"

Edited to add: Can you tell I liked the books?

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RE: No spaceships - 6/11/2008 5:33:07 PM   
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1) Find us boring as hell

2) are in leauge with the Government

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RE: No spaceships - 6/11/2008 5:43:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JohnSteed1967

while this may seem aluminum hat/crackpot but trust me the Aliens have been here and

1) Find us boring as hell

2) are in leauge with the Government




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RE: No spaceships - 6/11/2008 9:45:09 PM   
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RE: No spaceships - 6/11/2008 10:11:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yup and when they aliens said "They don't want to come back", they were telling the truth. They didn't want anything anymore, they were Thursday brunch.

Anyway, I guess people thought I was joking.

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RE: No spaceships - 6/12/2008 2:04:33 AM   
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RE: No spaceships - 6/12/2008 2:44:40 AM   
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Termyn8or, i've never meet A/anyone quite like You.  The way Your mind works is unique and fascinating.
 
i love Yr rants!
 
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P.S. NatGeo ran a show on UFO's last night.  i was surfing and happen to catch this.  WTF is up with shows on extraterrestial life running on a channel like NatGeo?

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RE: No spaceships - 6/12/2008 5:24:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		To the OP:  you don't need to worry about ET's picking up our TV broadcasts... seems that, thanks to the inverse square law, and background radio noise given off by the stars, the signals fade off to undetectablility within 10 light years. Folks who are worried about "ID4" or "V" scenarios can stop sweating. We're quite well camoflaged out here in the boonies of the western spiral arm.

I used to have a t-shirt, which had a picture of the Milky Way on it. There was one arrow pointing to our position, with the legend, "You Are Here" on it. On the other side of the galaxy, there was a second arrow, and the line, "All the cool stuff is happening here."

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RE: No spaceships - 6/12/2008 6:26:02 AM   
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RE: No spaceships - 6/12/2008 6:35:16 AM   
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signals fade off to undetectablility within 10 light years
Simply have some inconspicuous relay stations planted on a couple of asteroids, receive the signals and send them on.

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RE: No spaceships - 6/12/2008 6:52:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: bipolarber
signals fade off to undetectablility within 10 light years
Simply have some inconspicuous relay stations planted on a couple of asteroids, receive the signals and send them on.


Ringed planets make great transceivers, don't they?

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RE: No spaceships - 6/12/2008 8:11:32 AM   
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With our technology yes.

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RE: No spaceships - 6/12/2008 9:25:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: atursvcMaam
10 light years is a big range.


Not really.

Consider that the closest Star is with Alpha Centauri being 4.23 and they do not have Planet Style Masses revolving around them.

It is Believed that that a Planet that is in Orbit around a Red Dawrf  called Gliese is the closest planet that could be able to contain life as we currently understand it and it is 20.52 Light Years away.

Beyond that 10 Light years is a LARGE Area IF it was in all directions. Mind you when we fires these off it was directional. The ONLY way to get these radio waves would be to be directly in front of them AND with a Radio Wave Reciever which would also require that thier civilizations had also used radio waves which is nearly as improbable as them being right in front of it as it passes them and that they even understand what is being said and it isn't mistaken for something else..... Such as Radio Static from Stars.

Radio Signals sent into space are directional so in order to be heard you literally have to be in the path of them, and the Spread out so since we cannot check it is also believed that they would be uninteligable even by our own standards.

And finally....... What do you think ET's would get out of Lone Ranger Episodes because that is the BULK of what we sent out were shows with less than 10% being direct messages and although we tried to attach standard "Hello's" to all of the messages it assumed that Intelegent life outside our solar system could speak our languages.

Saddly when you look at things in an Intelegent light we were rather dumb to send messages into space because it is assinine to think they would have been able to understand them.

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RE: No spaceships - 6/12/2008 10:07:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hold on. Hijackers pipe down. Right in the title is the the word spaceship. The OP clearly indicates a supposition about a race or races that are able to travel to the Earth, but decide not to. It doesn't matter where their planet is.

Let's say the range is limited to ten light years, well then they can get the last ten years of information. I think that would do it.

The current state of our technology is that phased array antennae do exist, and we are nowhere near being able to travel to their planet. We might have made it to Mars in my lifetime if they hadn't FUBARed everything.

And you know what, now that I think about it, that pisses me off. In August, Mars will be the closest to Earth as it has been in 73,000 years.

If we hadn't fucked around for the last five generations we would be there. Well, in a couple months.

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RE: No spaceships - 6/12/2008 9:39:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		What ET's could learn from "Lone Ranger" episodes... hummm...

Well, if they took a single frame, say, from them shooting around Vasquez rocks, or something, They could pass the image through a set of red, green and blue filters to come up with a true color image. From that, they would be able to deduce the general composition of our atmosphere. Also the stellar type of the sun.

The doppler shift of the signal would tell them the rate at which the Earth was rotating, and possibly it's orbital speed around the sun. That would also give them an inkling of the Earth's mass.

Watching someone fall of their horse, they could nail the Earth's gravity pretty easily at 32 Ft. per second per second...

They would learn we have only one moon, depending on the episode.

They would be able to identify, via spectral analyisis, that we have things made of iron, steel, glass (silica) and so on...

They would find that we as a species, love ecludian geometry. (It's in our houses, our objects, our art...)

Actually, they could learn a lot, even though they probably wouldn't be able to figure out the context of anything happening on screen. A picture, it seems, is still worth a thousand words.

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RE: No spaceships - 6/12/2008 9:53:07 PM   
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RE: No spaceships - 6/12/2008 9:58:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bipolarber

What ET's could learn from "Lone Ranger" episodes... hummm...

Well, if they took a single frame, say, from them shooting around Vasquez rocks, or something, They could pass the image through a set of red, green and blue filters to come up with a true color image. From that, they would be able to deduce the general composition of our atmosphere. Also the stellar type of the sun.

The doppler shift of the signal would tell them the rate at which the Earth was rotating, and possibly it's orbital speed around the sun. That would also give them an inkling of the Earth's mass.

Watching someone fall of their horse, they could nail the Earth's gravity pretty easily at 32 Ft. per second per second...

They would learn we have only one moon, depending on the episode.

They would be able to identify, via spectral analyisis, that we have things made of iron, steel, glass (silica) and so on...

They would find that we as a species, love ecludian geometry. (It's in our houses, our objects, our art...)

Actually, they could learn a lot, even though they probably wouldn't be able to figure out the context of anything happening on screen. A picture, it seems, is still worth a thousand words.



Conversely based on what bipolar just said I had an amusing thought.... What it they got an episode of Star Trek, Stargate , etc... There might be a culture out there somewhere more advanced than ours - shitting in their pants worrying about the Klingon Empire or the G'Ould and watching the skies for Borg Cubes LOL

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