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RE: Conflicting images... - 6/23/2008 3:52:00 AM   
MissEnchanted


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ORIGINAL: MsBlackheart

over something I said, knowing it was "undommely" of me to express an emotion that implied I was anything less than the epitome of imperious.  My reaction was a silent "oh please".   It does bother me, but I'm not going to put up a facade, that would violate my own code of ethics.  I'm suspicious of people who do that and avoid them.

While it's nice to imagine being so completely together and flawless that I fit the ideal of the perfect dominant, it's probably not going to happen in this lifetime. I really like me, even with all the inconsistencies. The very few people who've been the focus of my attention know that when I mean business, it's going to be intense, that I can be sadistic and unflinching or motherly and loving or playful and evil, and maybe all six in one day if you're lucky, and I'll tell you from the start that I'm not perfect.  But I'm honest.  And FUN.




MsBlackheart,

I sure can identify with what you shared in the above quote.

Your sig line is so true for me:Reality sure does kick fantasie's ass.

ME

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RE: Conflicting images... - 6/23/2008 4:28:12 AM   
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Actually Jenny all of us to some degree or another have different personnas and ways we present ourselves based on both the situation, and the other people, and the history betwixt them, we are interacting with. Let me explain what I mean. Let's say your sister gets in a fight w/ her bf. You would comfort her, and if she was really upset you might even encourage her to take a day off from work. Now, samesituation only its not your sister it is a coworker, and you are her boss. You will not be as understanding of her wanting time off from work, so your approach to finding out would be different. That might not be the best example, but it helps some, I hope. The point is in a given situation you may treat all  parties differently. This is not a different personality so much as it is adaptability. Your child who skins their knee and bawls will not be responded to in the same way as you'd respond to your husband if he did the same thing, though admitedly some of us guys are big babies, worse than kids when we get hurt or are sick. Am I making any sense? We wear many different hats in our day to day lives. Another example, I am a Campus Safety Officer, there are some rules I don't agree with, but as a Company man I become the badge, and the authority and resposability that go with it. Even though I may not agree w/ the rule, often an outdated one, I still have to enforce it.This puts me at odds w/ myself and the stress of being pulled in two directions is never easy. I had to bust my friend for violating one of these rules I don't agree with. I was all business. My friend thought I was a jerk, because he and I had discussed the fact that the rule was outdated. He thought I was being twofaced but of course, I was not. On duty I  had to tote the college line  off-duty I spoke against it. Different roles different personna yet the same person, same rule. I would normally say whichever roll you feel most happy and fulfilled portraying is the real you. However in this case I can see based on the other statements that you are as equally comfortable in either role.  I think it is easier for us as men in this area as we tend to compartmentalize everything seperatefrome one another, it's how we are wired. For women I think its harder because you put everything you have and are into everything you do, so it is more difficult when you have that duality in your nature and try to reconcile yourself to the fact that they are both you, if willingly undertaken, and each is just as true and faithful as the other. I hope this helps, Bob

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RE: Conflicting images... - 6/23/2008 5:46:56 AM   
DominantJenny


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ORIGINAL: GentlemanBobIII

Actually Jenny all of us to some degree or another have different personnas and ways we present ourselves based on both the situation, and the other people, and the history betwixt them, we are interacting with. Let me explain what I mean. Let's say your sister gets in a fight w/ her bf. You would comfort her, and if she was really upset you might even encourage her to take a day off from work. Now, samesituation only its not your sister it is a coworker, and you are her boss. You will not be as understanding of her wanting time off from work, so your approach to finding out would be different. That might not be the best example, but it helps some, I hope. The point is in a given situation you may treat all  parties differently. This is not a different personality so much as it is adaptability. Your child who skins their knee and bawls will not be responded to in the same way as you'd respond to your husband if he did the same thing, though admitedly some of us guys are big babies, worse than kids when we get hurt or are sick. Am I making any sense? We wear many different hats in our day to day lives. Another example, I am a Campus Safety Officer, there are some rules I don't agree with, but as a Company man I become the badge, and the authority and resposability that go with it. Even though I may not agree w/ the rule, often an outdated one, I still have to enforce it.This puts me at odds w/ myself and the stress of being pulled in two directions is never easy. I had to bust my friend for violating one of these rules I don't agree with. I was all business. My friend thought I was a jerk, because he and I had discussed the fact that the rule was outdated. He thought I was being twofaced but of course, I was not. On duty I  had to tote the college line  off-duty I spoke against it. Different roles different personna yet the same person, same rule. I would normally say whichever roll you feel most happy and fulfilled portraying is the real you. However in this case I can see based on the other statements that you are as equally comfortable in either role.  I think it is easier for us as men in this area as we tend to compartmentalize everything seperatefrome one another, it's how we are wired. For women I think its harder because you put everything you have and are into everything you do, so it is more difficult when you have that duality in your nature and try to reconcile yourself to the fact that they are both you, if willingly undertaken, and each is just as true and faithful as the other. I hope this helps, Bob


Actually, I WOULD be as understanding. (Whether this would make me a successful boss doesn't come into the discussion. :P) No, one doesn't treat all people literally the same...that has nothing to do with having a consistent personality; I do treat both an injured adult and an injured child with compassion, that's the consistency. I wouldn't take a job where I was doing things I fundamentally disagreed with (and if I did out of literal necessity, I would not put their rules above my own.) That's just how I am, I'm not judging you; I perfectly understand your mindset and approach; it just doesn't work for me. I'm not sure it's a gender thing, but, yes, different kinds of personalities mean some people have an easier time with this sort of thing than others. Thanks for your post. :)

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RE: Conflicting images... - 7/3/2008 1:45:22 PM   
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What a great question!--- as a real Gemini it seems i've relished the duality of being successful male in world-vanilla and sub/slave in this one--- though it did cause some internal combustion during the younger coming -to -terms with it all years so........what's helped is finding others with similar issues who were part of my natural social group over the years also........its helped i've lived in some of the best places for this lifestyle also i guess - SF, NYC, Europe(the good country for BDSM also....)

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RE: Conflicting images... - 7/3/2008 1:57:44 PM   
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Yes, I'd say that there are pretty conflicting images of me. I'm pretty public in several areas of my life, and in at least one area of my life, the folks know both my gentle, cuddly side -and- my harsh, "drawing-blood-and-taking-names" side -- I think some of them were a little startled when it all came out, and I actually got a bit of a kick out of that.

It's funny. I don't feel any squeamishness at all about the dichotomy. Neither face is -not- me... I'm completely myself in both situations... it is the situation that is different. For me, I guess that it isn't any different than going to the grocery store for peanut butter and the library for a book -- I tend to think that we're -all- a lot of different faces all at once, and whether we show all the faces all the time or not is less important than whether every face is an accurate representation of the essence of the person within. Whether I'm cuddly and kind or 'cut-em-up' and cruel, these are all genuine representations of honest facets of my 'self', so I don't feel like it is being deceitful that every facet isn't showing all the time. (Besides, that would be blinding for ordinary mortals!)

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RE: Conflicting images... - 7/3/2008 3:30:33 PM   
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I've told this story on the boards before, but it might fit this particular train of thought.

When I came 'out' about being in the lifestyle a while back, I was sitting casually with three other people who had different levels of suspicion about exactly what it was that I did on weekends.  You know, the curiosity had been up about exactly why I always seemed to be going out of town and the way I talked about things.  When I told them, the reaction that I got from the one woman, who happens to be My boss was, "You mean you?  Sweet little you?  Get out of here.  You do those things".  Understand that this was all being said with the hugest smile on her face, because she knows Me as a nice person, who cares greatly for other people  Two years later, she still sees Me as a nice person.  She just knows more about what I do in My home life.

I think it goes along with some of the great myths out there.  That we sadists are vicious, cruel people in all situations.  We're not.  At least not all of us.  It's ok to be both.  The sadist who really is a nice person.  There's nothing wrong with wanting to be sweet, nice, or even cute, and be really good at hurting people.


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RE: Conflicting images... - 7/3/2008 7:26:01 PM   
ShiftedJewel


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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

It ain't easy being green.

I decided a long time ago that no one would be better
at being me than me. As long as I am comfortable in
my skin, no matter the skin I choose to wear for the
moment, I quite frankly don't give a rat's ass how
others might wish to define me.

I'm not quite Sybil, but I'm thoroughly convinced that
I'm not alone in here.

"Are too."

"Am not."

"Sorry, didn't see you standing there."

chia* (the pet)


So you may be the lunatic I've been looking for?
 
Jewel

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