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Faramir -> RE: Is it all about "being happy" (11/1/2005 5:19:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ICGsteve

I would argue, and very many have agreed with this view over the last fifty years or so, that modern technical society is unusually ill by historic standards, that it is deep in the process of death and renewal, so individuals are for the most part left to their own devises and must make their own way. Normally it is so that all that is exterior is interior as well, and vis-versa, that healthy individuals must cast off the teachings and practices of society is a temporary reality. I would argue that those of us in the lifestyle have rejected all of the modern precepts on equality and power, that we are not really a subculture but in fact have rejected the established culture. We find individual growth and happyness in BDSM but I think increasingly we will also find ourselves in conflict with the broader society which clings to its dieing ideology even as they find their interiors increasingly empty, and view the very existance of BDSM as a threat to their way of life and identity.



Thanks for the response ICG.

-"Many have agreed" is irrelevant - many don't agree. What matters is why they agree or disagree.

-This notion that the current age is particuarly or peculiarly ill is a pretty old saw by now. My mind immediately leapt to Arnold, Ruskin, Dickens, who saw their age as fatal, broken, inimical to human life, spiritually and literlaly deadly. The seismic shifts that so distressed them are 150 years later growing pains.

-There is a gulf between discrimination and rejection - between lauding deviance wholesale and the critical conviction that a specific more shoudl be defied.

I read your comments as sweeping - that wholesale revaluation was called for. Perhaps I misread that?




LadiesBladewing -> RE: Is it all about "being happy" (11/1/2005 8:08:58 PM)

I have obtained much food for thought from this discussion. Just one comment for now, while I digest all I've read from the responses to this...

I am my own revolution. The only changes that I can guarantee to be wrought are those in myself. I may guide, teach, wrangle, and offer alternatives to others -- but in the end, they, too, are responsible to enact their own personal revolutions, and from the seeds of those individual revolutions, shape a life for themselves.

One thing that I have learned from the process of yielding -and- the process of leading is that both are part of a continuum, walked one step at a time from the understanding that the only true control that we have is the control over what we think and what we =decide= to do with those thoughts at each cusp. My joy is in my own control, and because of that, even the things that are difficult become part of the complex jigsaw of my joy.

Lady Zephyr





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