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theRose4U -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/3/2005 9:38:54 AM)

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I started feeling an obligation to the Doms I was arranging to chat with her to verify her reality. I asked for her number and called. What I spoke to on the other end of the phone was genuine and intense sub. I was taken by storm. Now I find myslef in an awkward situation. I dont even know what to say here. I wish I had a question to ask. I dont even know if Im typing to you all or Im just typing to myself while I sort my thoughts on this.

Im in the drivers seat. She obviously put her trust in me for a reason. I would assume that if I wanted to be selfish and change the plan I could do it. What I dont know is, should I? I came her looking for a slave. I met some good people and found one that was very close to what I was looking for. I got fooled once (who hasnt). And now this accidently falls in my lap.

Im quite certain there is a wide range of thoughts on this from the readers. I dont know what I need to hear. Maybe I dont need to hear anything. Faramir comes to mind saying "FIND YOUR SACK BOY!" LOL.... But it isnt about courage. It sabout makeing the right choice. Before it was entertaining and a game. Now its potentially more. Is it violating her trust by turning and attempting to capture her? Is it stupid of me to be in this position to begin with? So, Ill figure it out tonight and make a move in the morning.


LOL sounds like the hunter has become the one in the snare. Just personal experience it can be a pleasurable trap for a Dom/me. I had no intention of taking on a novice because of the added work involved. The "experienced" subs that I met RL in my area had personal agendas, bad manners/ habits & the like...so much for the local munch. In just sending websites/ reading list to new novice I actually received (much to my suprise) a respectful and articulate thank you. We spoke for quite a while before meeting and he has shown himself to be a pleasure and a delight. Sometimes what we've ben looking for high & low ends up being right in front of our face.

As for your responsibility to others, I would say let her make her own decision. Be a mentor and confidant while she searches encouraging her to find the one that's "right for her". Just don't be shocked if she comes back to the one that has been helping her all along. I personally think that "making your move" may come off like someone that has used the guise of introducing/ assisting her to get into her pants. It doesn't get much more dishonorable than that. Spend time teaching and guiding...she will come around in her own time.




TearCollector -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/3/2005 10:52:02 AM)



DetMaster

You make a solid point and you’re Umpire /Player example was exactly on the mark. Im going to talk with her again today. At the end of that conversation, I am going to either be an Umpire or have her shut down her profile and work with her off line for while. Im not going to compete because I don’t need to. Im already in. She trusts me. Thats all I need to close the door on this. “Small Head in charge”

But , after speaking with her and finding out she is genuine, I also feel a responsibility to make the right choice for her. Which leads me down the middle of the road. What is best. I need to know her better before I could decide that. Hence Im leaning towards shutting down her profile.

Chaingang
Your view points are completely warranted. As I stated before, it was an exercise to muse myself. I was curious about so many things. Is she real? What goes on in a new slave’s mail box? I got involved as I saw fit and played along as it was fun and interesting. It got real after we spoke when all I really was doing was confirming reality for the Doms as part of my Umpire role.

Ill explain a little bit about my criteria about hunting gear. If you have ever seen all the sloppy, crazy way people present themselves to a slave as a first impression, you wouldn’t be asking this question. I went through hundreds of messages. I looked for a way to manage and filter losers. I saw that if a person didn’t care enough to present themselves with a photo that looked like they had not showered in 3 days, they probably would not take good care of her. I also decided that wearing hunting gear and posing with a beer in your hand was more for Field and Stream and less than a responsible person to take care of a slve. That was not a shot against hunters. But I don’t expect to see ads for tampax in Field in Stream. I guess I wanted to see some effort in having your act together before I hand you over a human being to manage. We had 100's of options. We could afford to be picky. I decided what were weeds and I pulled them.

I didn’t look for wealth but I did look for the ability to provide. That was guess work but there are indicators. IE: the torn T-shirt photos with paint falling off the back walls. LOLOL.. Can you believe someone would actually send a pic like that?

There were also the winkie pics. All were deleted except one. I actually understood why this guy sent it. He was hung like a horse and considered it something to set him aside from the rest. LOLOLOLOL...Dang thing would be a weapon.!!! He also attached an amazing long letter that would win over anyone. The letter was not about sex but was genuine and very interesting to read. If I was a sub/slave woman, I be all over that. Ill auction his profile and contact info on the sub threads when this mess is all cleared up. ROFL!!!

Chaingang also references my profile which is fair enough. So Ill address it. I have two sons. Everyone and everything in the world is second to them including my next breath. So, I wanted to make that known as a characteristic of mine. Its what profiles are for. As for my work. I am very busy. Most people are. My work pays the bills and is a big part of my life. Im not a retired Dom sitting at home watching TV all day. I have a client base and a nature of business that keeps me busy. I felt it was also something important to note in a profile.

Many people may not want an instant family. Some may not mind and others may actually like it. It was important to also mention the kids because it could be an issue for a potential candidate. If I understood Chaingang correctly, he slightly leans towards the opinion that kids equal some sort of ready made thing that a young person wouldn’t want. That may be true for many. But not all. Im only looking for one. So I think Im ok.

I haven’t gotten to the 3rd page of this thread yet. I wanted to reply to Chaingang and DetMaster before moving on. Plus I havent had my first cup of coffee which is very very bad.

Tearcollector




MasterTalion -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/3/2005 11:03:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TearCollector

Why do guys send pictures of their manhood to a woman they never met. ? Is that stupid or what. Ladies am I wrong on this one. Do you like that? I mean, Im not a chick so maybe chicks like that. I wouldnt mind if I got 3 pages of messages daily of women showing me their hole. So maybe it works both ways. But everytime I opened a message and a winkie popped out, Id nearly jump out of my chair!






Tear, I have to agree, even though I am male - I've read quite a few posts on here that say ( almost quote) : " if you send me a picture of your dick, you go on ignore forever" . I don't send girls a picture of my dick... ever. There is no point. if they ask for it, then I think they aren't worth the time, because if things GET to that point, I figure they are going to find out first hand exactly what it looks like....

that make any sense... ?




Kasia -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/3/2005 11:35:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TearCollector

I see Kasia figured out who it was. I suppose it wasnt too hard.

I find relaxing to read profiles and journal entries almost every night for hour or two. She was just online and got into my focus so I found your entry there.
And I must say I am not surprised you fell for her [:)]

As for that part, did it occur to you she might have let you into her mailbox because she likes you the same way? But just like you has hard time admitting it.




Chaingang -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/3/2005 2:31:41 PM)

TearCollector:

She's a human beartrap. Chew off your leg now, buddy. She's already got you handling her messages for her - what's next? Painting her toenails? Financial domination? I think this one can make you wear the horns...

If you can't get out of it, the two words that will help you the most are "Yes Mistress."

[:D]




Detmastered -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/3/2005 5:55:18 PM)

Ride the wave big fella ride the wave. The worse thing that can happen is you crash and burn and tell me the truth how many of us have crashed and burned for less and lived to tell the tale. I would still listen to Aileen but I also think she set her sights hooked you like a large mouth bass and you might as well ride the wave.

Good luck man I hope she throws you back when she is done.

To be honest I hope some one laughs.

You need to close that door before you melt all that stuff!




Aileen68 -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/3/2005 6:16:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Detmastered
I also think she set her sights hooked you like a large mouth bass and you might as well ride the wave.



Is there actually anything wrong with that? I mean, don't we all do that to some degree when we are looking for someone. We just all go about it differently. Some are blatant and some are a bit more disguised.




DomButNotForgotn -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 12:40:26 AM)

You get about one message a week from a prospective sub?

What am I doing wrong?

BTW, I've heard of a sub who is very cute posting her pic and getting 300 e-mails A DAY....




TearCollector -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 1:17:45 AM)

Ok... Update

(ChainGang will get some rant time from this.. BTW... the "yes Mistress" was priceless)

Spoke with HER on the phone again this morning. We were discussing potential DOms and how my plan for "TearCollector Survior Game" was going to work, when all of the sudden she asks, "why dont I want her". That turned into an hour long back peddle and then she hits me with some information that I cant even reveal here. One minute after that, I closed her Collarme Account, secured her yahoo email and messenger accounts. She was in TearCollector LockDown!

About a half hour later I collared her and she is packing for Hawaii. (This is where ChainGang starts ranting)LOL...

Ill close this post by saying I came to Collarme by accident. I met some people I really liked so I stuck around. After some exposure, I felt something was missing in my life and after some deep soul searching I new what it was. I didnt think I would find it . I certainly didnt think it would happen this soon. But it did. It took about a year. I was here before under a differant ID. I decided TearCollector was more catchy. I was right. It was the name that stood out in the sea of incoming emails. The name only gets you in the door. A troll with a cool name is still a troll. If that makes sense.

I almost blew this one because I got smoked a few months ago. I didnt trust her because of someone else. Id like to offer some small advise to Doms seeking slaves. There are a lot of fakes. But they are not fakes until proven that way.

Im not in the mood to care enough about spell check so sorry for that.

Thank you all for your input

ChainGang... save it. Im on the wave.

TC




ExistentialSteel -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 1:27:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross
It's something akin to putting a sign in the window of your house saying "No phone callers from Georgia."


Well, I used to live in Silver Spring, MD. Would that make it okay? Now if I can only find 50 cents so I can use the town phone.




Focus50 -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 2:13:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I've never heard anyone say or known anyone who stopped receiving undesirable emails JUST because they put a disclaimer in their profiles.

The only way that stops emails from people who don't read profiles is the block feature.

Stopped, no! That'd be too unrealistic, I suggested trying to bring it down to a *manageable level*.

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It's her fault because it's her profile, and it's not taking control because it's not actually going to DO anything. It's something akin to putting a sign in the window of your house saying "No phone callers from Georgia."

Says you....!

Me, I'm not such a cynical quitter as to just give in and block, not that I've ever had this problem. I'd rather put a sign up and then ignore the ignorant or illiterate at my leisure and with a clear conscience. But as both a Dom and, well, just being me, it's easy for me to adopt that attitude but the sub in the OP was actually trying to make an effort and answer all. She's neither a Dom nor has your experience and too many subs just give up and ignore every Dom that writes to them - hence we are then all tarred with the same brush.


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If you have to scream in your profile, that means somethings irking you too far.

Ummmm, duhhh! But who's talking about screaming?

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Of course it is, but putting rules in profiles doesn't change what emails you get and it just says you don't know how to silently click the delete button when you get them anyway. I'm attracted to someone who knows how to deal with issues effectively, quickly, and gracefully.

Listing a litany of "No's" in a profile does none of those things, and it takes away from people learning the happy fun side of the person, which is what a profile is for.

It doesn't say in the least that one doesn't know how to delete in silence - it says that some prefer not to travel that route. Once again, the sub in the OP was *trying* to answer all.

And it's hardly a "litany of "No's"", just a simple disclaimer. Crikey, any moron with an ounce of online experience knows the ladies get swamped in geek mail and I certainly wouldn't get put off by a profile with such a "litany" of supposed negativity. It'd simply tell me she's sick of perverts, cyberdoms and allround fuckwits - that's fine with me....

All I'm suggesting is, for eg, something as simple as "All are welcome to contact me but please be polite and sincere if you have expectations of a reply", or words to that effect. Hardly a litany - and it's not "screaming"....


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I don't waste hours trying to be polite to losers and I have absolutely no listing of people who "shouldn't" email me in my profile. It's not an either/or situation.

My advice isn't for you; this is not about *you*.

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My goal in posting is not always to be positive and/or insightful.

My mistake - I'd never previously thought of you as a vaccuous loud-mouth barracking from the bleachers.... lol

Focus.




Chaingang -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 2:35:46 AM)

Occam's Razor, TearCollector. Like I said, I could be wrong. I have no investment in the outcome.

Best of luck to you.




Focus50 -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 2:38:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Chaingang

I'm finding this thread generally pretty amusing...

Firstly, I think the supposed submissive's ad could easily be a fake one and that TearCollector is having fun with horny net geeks.


If the ad's fake, so is the OP. Yes, phony posts seems to be a favourite passtime of several "clever" people at bondage.com, too, and it wouldn't surprise me if there's a section of equally immature people suffering from the same inferiority complex here!

But considering I do know fem/subs with this similar mail problem, the question posed is still relevant whether the OP is genuine or not. So I tend to regard most OP's as sincere and reply accordingly - and let others get hung up on suspicions and conspiracy theories.

Focus.




MasterHyde -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 5:33:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TearCollector

About a half hour later I collared her and she is packing for Hawaii. (This is where ChainGang starts ranting)LOL...



You think ChainGang will be the only one? You are SOOOO naive. I've been reading this thread with curiosity, but now I'm sure you're just completely nuts. Best of luck to you, but you just collared someone you've never met and who you only talked to on the phone... twice? It's no wonder you got smoked before. I'd lay odds you're about to get smoked again.





LadyAngelika -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 5:57:51 AM)

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when all of the sudden she asks, "why dont I want her".


Not that anyone actually acknowledged my original theory ;-) but oh did I ever see that coming!

- LA




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 6:08:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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when all of the sudden she asks, "why dont I want her".


Not that anyone actually acknowledged my original theory ;-) but oh did I ever see that coming!

- LA

I give total points to you. It's nice when you have a very classic case of people "going against every single piece of advice we ever put on here after the dozens and dozens of questions."

Not to be all negative or anything, but I'm not too hopeful on this working out long term.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 6:10:10 AM)


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And it's hardly a "litany of "No's"", just a simple disclaimer. Crikey, any moron with an ounce of online experience knows the ladies get swamped in geek mail and I certainly wouldn't get put off by a profile with such a "litany" of supposed negativity. It'd simply tell me she's sick of perverts, cyberdoms and allround fuckwits - that's fine with me....

I find it interesting that you failed to include this part of my response:

Now, there's a balance here as always, and perceptions can vary. Someone saying "Please only local courters and non-smokers," is different than "NO ONE under 35, NO ONE over 50, NO MARRIED MEN, NO PLAYERS, NO WANNABES"




Chaingang -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 8:19:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Focus50
But considering I do know fem/subs with this similar mail problem, the question posed is still relevant whether the OP is genuine or not. So I tend to regard most OP's as sincere and reply accordingly - and let others get hung up on suspicions and conspiracy theories.


Hung up? I said I didn't care and wished him luck. Is there some ritualistic ass-kissing that must now be performed to make it all nice-nice or something?

Yes, truth is stranger than fiction, but how can we tell a tall tale from the truth? I figure I can't so I don't really try. But this story has some "smell test" problems. And it just so happens that the exact same day I suggest the ad is fake it gets pulled? How convenient - will wonders never cease?

Hey, it's this or the daily jumble...





AAkasha -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 9:06:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TearCollector

Ok... Update

(ChainGang will get some rant time from this.. BTW... the "yes Mistress" was priceless)

Spoke with HER on the phone again this morning. We were discussing potential DOms and how my plan for "TearCollector Survior Game" was going to work, when all of the sudden she asks, "why dont I want her". That turned into an hour long back peddle and then she hits me with some information that I cant even reveal here. One minute after that, I closed her Collarme Account, secured her yahoo email and messenger accounts. She was in TearCollector LockDown!

About a half hour later I collared her and she is packing for Hawaii. (This is where ChainGang starts ranting)LOL...

Ill close this post by saying I came to Collarme by accident. I met some people I really liked so I stuck around. After some exposure, I felt something was missing in my life and after some deep soul searching I new what it was. I didnt think I would find it . I certainly didnt think it would happen this soon. But it did. It took about a year. I was here before under a differant ID. I decided TearCollector was more catchy. I was right. It was the name that stood out in the sea of incoming emails. The name only gets you in the door. A troll with a cool name is still a troll. If that makes sense.

I almost blew this one because I got smoked a few months ago. I didnt trust her because of someone else. Id like to offer some small advise to Doms seeking slaves. There are a lot of fakes. But they are not fakes until proven that way.

Im not in the mood to care enough about spell check so sorry for that.

Thank you all for your input

ChainGang... save it. Im on the wave.

TC


If you were just recently hurt in a relationship, why the scuffle and move to respond to quickly and desperately?

Who paid for the plane ticket?
Is she staying at a hotel, or with you and your kids -- and what on earth do you tell them when someone they don't know moves in for awhile?
What about your job, which is so important, are you taking time off with no notice to your bosses?
Is she in a position where she can drop everything?

Someone might be taking you for a ride. I hope it works out. I'd be highly suspicious of someone who involved me in their relationship games only to pull a passive aggressive trick and have you fall right into it instead of being straightforward. If you are spending any cash in this venture, consider yourself warned.

Also beware of the rebound bug.

Akasha




LadyAngelika -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 11:12:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross
quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

quote:

when all of the sudden she asks, "why dont I want her".


Not that anyone actually acknowledged my original theory ;-) but oh did I ever see that coming!

- LA

I give total points to you.

Thanks. Though I wasn't looking for points but I won't turn them down points from you! :-)
*hides the points under her crystal ball*

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It's nice when you have a very classic case of people "going against every single piece of advice we ever put on here after the dozens and dozens of questions."

Well I often wonder when people post a help me question if they actually want to hear opinions. This is not directed specifically to the OP but since you brought it up, yeah, I see it too.

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Not to be all negative or anything, but I'm not too hopeful on this working out long term.

Yeah, I don't want to be negative. TearCollector seems like he has his heart in the right place. I hope it does work out for him though I have to say that relationships that start off with traps and trickery usually have less of a chance in lasting.

- LA




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