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Kasia -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 11:52:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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when all of the sudden she asks, "why dont I want her".


Not that anyone actually acknowledged my original theory ;-) but oh did I ever see that coming!

- LA

I saw that coming too when I saw her profile - seemed quite competent to handle her own mail nicely, so there could be just one reason for letting him do it for her.
Men are so gullible [:D]




TearCollector -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 1:52:53 PM)








I expected a total thrashing for this decision I made. From the outside looking in, I would have been rolling my eyeballs and saying what a stupid move. I wanted to bounce this off you guys because I wanted opinions to consider. Not necessarily to follow. I logged on this morning with my fire suit on. Oddly, there was some smoke but not much fire. Lady Angelica was correct though. The question came exactly as she predicted "why don’t you want me".

The deal unfolded like this:
I found this female with interests and needs that were very much parallel to what I was looking for. That makes her someone that I should contact. In the process of trying to talk with her, she was getting 10 messages in between my messages. It was frustrating not having her undivided attention for even a minute. I decided on a strategy of numerous short messages to keep mine near the top of the incoming wave of messages. Even if one slipped under the current undetected, the next would be seen. It worked and I became the most familiar name quickest. “Natures law of survival of the fittest.” I capitalized on this very slight advantage by offering her help in managing her incoming mail. That was the key. She was so stressed and confused and at that moment vulnerable so frustrated numb and tiered, she conceded. Once inside, I cleared out 30 pages, and did not reply to any incoming for an hour which slowed the mail to a trickle. Mean while, we communicated over email. It was slightly slower but I had her complete attention. She clamed down and the mood was perfect. I was her "savior" (Her words).

Now that I had her where I wanted her, I couldn’t decide what to do with her. Like so many of you would advise, (especially John Warren who I like a lot). It takes time to get to know a person. That’s what I was after next. But I knew the second she got back on the boards, the tidal wave would be back and her undivided attention would be shattered. I decided to create a bubble for her. Limited access with my controls. I wanted to keep her occupied but still have the majority of her attention while I discovered her and what she is about. I was in her inner circle as the Umpire, bouncer and manager. I decided who knocked on the door and who got booted. I chose very good people for her to talk with. One Dom I considered a serious adversary. An artist with an extraordinary way with words. Handsome too. I genuinely liked the guy. Even though I had to keep a close eye on him. He was the one person I felt I may not be able to control if he got into her head. I kept him close by because this wasn’t just about me. It was about her as well. I was just going through this exercise as the only means I knew to isolate and learn about her. If it wasn’t right then I wanted her to have good people to choose from which was the hat I was suppose to be wearing anyway.

The Doms I chose of coarse all wanted total unobstructed access. That was not going to happen until I knew what I wanted to do. But I liked and respected these Doms. I chose them because they seemed to me to be the best of hundreds of interested parties. I gave her their ID's and permitted her to write them only with my permission. When she wrote them, I do not know what she said. But I did read all the replies. And she was not restricted from reading incoming mail. Only responding to them. This was the weak spot in my plan. If the Doms knew she was able to read and not reply, they could have just kept writing and writing which could have broke her down. These Doms were intelligent. Also they seemed highly skilled. I live in a 6 hour time zone away from her and I work full time. The Doms had hours to wear her down with out my eye on it. If they new she was reading and not me it could have been a disaster. She is extremely vulnerable. It could have happened. I ran the risk because I needed to keep her occupied so she wasn’t waiting totally at the door for me. The mind wonders when not occupied. So I attempted to control the mild mental occupation necessary with some accepted risk.

Watching her respond and react to Dom couples, Dom men and even Mistresses was interesting for me. I assumed she needed a couple because of information she had given me. I presented her with some excellent couples. Genuine and quite good in every respect. But she leaned toward the single men. Even the Mistress had little impact. The artist got the most attention which concerned me but I monitored it closely. ( Can anyone tell I admire this guy? Powerful in the most calming way.)

I had narrowed the field down to about 10 Doms and was undecided what I wanted to do. I made mention of it here on the forums hoping for some "outside looking in advice" which I got. Thank you. I decided not to stall the process and continue moving forward with the plan of locating her a future Dom and keeping myself as an option. I wasn’t ready to jump in and say it’s me and the other Doms I had selected were chomping the bit at the starting gate. So I decided its time to let the race begin and give the Doms unrestricted access.

Since I was in charge, I felt an obligation to the Doms to verify her as being real before opening the starting gate. Id felt like the biggest fool if she wasn’t. So I got her number and called. That is when lightening struck. After the phone call, I sat down and mentally went over the whole project. My intensions, my directions my wants, her intensions, her capability etc... The hesitation is probably a normal reaction.

At the computer, I sat and finally decided to let it go. I just wasn’t 100% certain what my next move was should be so, I would open the door and be done with it. I emailed her and told her I was going to inform the Doms of her email address and she had free choice. The response was immediate. "Why don’t you want me?" I had no answer. I did want her. I stepped away from the computer and watched as she begged and pleaded for a response. I could almost see the tears of fear and frustration pouring down her face as she helplessly typed in desperation as I did not reply. Message after message appeared relentless on my yahoo IM pleading for mercy and to say just one word to know I was there.

Im not an unkind person. This was tearing me apart. I thought she would grow weary and say "fine what ever" and storm off in a huff proving to me she wasn’t the one. But she didn’t. She posted “call me please!!!” with her number over and over. I changed my defensive thinking to an offensive thought. I know what I want. I posted in my profile before I even met her. If I know what want and she meets the criteria, what is stopping me from engaging her as her potential Master. There are no red flags. There are no hairs standing the back of my neck. No intuition telling me there is a hidden problem. If it’s not her then who could it be? That was the moment I took off my umpire hat and decided to call. Just to be certain.

The tears of panic were evident as I heard the tell tale sniffling as she recomposed herself. We spoke for a few minutes. She didn’t beg or ask anything of me accept to say what ever makes me happy she will do. If that means giving her away she will obey and be happy that it made me happy. Well guess what fans, it didn’t make me happy.

The final pre-decision detail was risk versus cost which Akasha so intelligent lays on the table. Akasha also brings up valid points on matters she doesn’t have facts to but valid none the less. "Time off work and my bosses". This would be a major obstacle accept I own the company. It’s still an issue. My clients are quite demanding and need daily attention from me personally. I have an amazing staff but they are not me. Excellent under direction. Challenged during emergencies with out me. There is only one flight a week on and off this rock. It would be two weeks round trip if I left to get her. So Akasha isn’t far off the mark with professional obstacles. Rebound? Possibly a contributing factor Akasha dear. Certainly worth mentioning and correctly stated. But considering the parameters I mentioned above, rebound weighing in or not, doesn’t change ether facts. Rock in the ocean 1000's of miles from the real world and limited access to options. Sometimes we take what we can get. But in this case, I think I found a jewel and Im damn lucky to have the chance at it.

My final decision weighed in like this. And I want everyone to consider this before posting. Risk is always there for each of us in every decision we make. Given my situation as it is, which move is more stupid? Making a move that feels right or follow the beaten path of normal good due process and run the risk of losing what I believe is right. In my business, I weigh risk vs cost over time for clients in my head all the time. I understand it. Now why is she packing so sudden? Why not wait? Akasha "Who is paying the plane ticket?" She is. She also has the means to support herself and leave with out financial burden to me at all. So, what is my risk? What is her motive? I believe it genuine. And if it’s not, Ill find out soon enough with minimum negative impact.

The facts were and still are, I live thousands of miles from civilization as most of you know it. Surrounded by warm ocean and dolphins. Odds are extremely low of having anyone here in the lifestyle not to mention having a selection. So you will need to excuse me for being a little aggressive at finding one that meets my criteria and is interested in me plus is willing to relocate here at her own expense. My situation should afford some understanding from the critics and not put me directly into to the pile of stupid moves.

ChainGang
Your views make sense. I would absolutely say the same thing. “Smoked once and will get smoked again”. Im 40 my friend. Smoked once in my life is a good record. Being tough enough to turn around and grab the next opportunity on short notice with clear thinking is not stupidity. Its much bigger than that. I hope you agree. But as you said, it makes little difference now doesnt it.?

I did not make this post for anyone to validate me actions. I made it because I find value in bouncing these things off the people here. I don’t have a habit of showing my butt to the world. I did it here because I wanted some experienced advice to consider. But whether I follow it or not is my decision to make. My actions do not require validation and the consequences are mine alone. So are the benefits. I have made mistakes. But I have learned from them. Im confident that anyone here that has real advise to offer has also made mistakes and learned from them. Thanks for your input. Positive or negative, it has value.

I would like to call on that SOB Farimir to post here. Im dreadfully curious to know what his blunt take on all this is. His perspectives are always colorful but I find the man sincere and in my opinion honest with his thoughts. We cant ask for more than honesty from anyone. How they deliver to us is an individuals own style.

BTW, I posted a pic on my profile last night for the first time. I will remove it at the end of the day. I think it’s a good idea to put a face with a conversation. Only those who read this whole novel will know its there. You’re the ones Id like to know who I am. The rest of the world doesn’t have the need to know.

TC








swtnsparkling -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 3:34:05 PM)

wow what a game:
all i have seen from this is she used you with the damsel in distress, oh woe is me , im a slave, i get so many mails every day i cant keep up poor lil ole slave me i know not what to, please help ( i bet if you could of seen her face to face she was batting her eyelashes too.)

Mail controls could very easily of helped with amount, like blocking certain ages, out of states, out of country, no profile etc. and i believe is was Kasia who said ( seemed quite competent to handle her own mail nicely, so there could be just one reason for letting him do it for her.) You fell for it she wanted you to see them.

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In the process of trying to talk with her, she was getting 10 messages in between my messages. It was frustrating not having her undivided attention for even a minute.


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I decided who knocked on the door and who got booted. I chose very good people for her to talk with.

you have the nerve to say you would help her in the search , you wanted to control it all.

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I gave her their ID's and permitted her to write them only with my permission.

if you were already telling her what she could or could not do and controlling her account why did this get started, why didn't you just tell her, your account is closed and your not speaking with anyone but me from now on.

You used a lot of people. Set them up, People you say you admire?
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I do not know what she said. But I did read all the replies.

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The artist got the most attention which concerned me but I monitored it closely

You read all the personal mails to her from those you gavetheir ID's , Did any of them know You would be reading them? Did they know you gave her their names?

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The tears of panic were evident as I heard the tell tale sniffling as she recomposed herself
- this entire thing stinks of the typical romance paperback book

and in closeting
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I have made mistakes. But I have learned from them. Im confident that anyone here that has real advise to offer has also made mistakes and learned from them

Yes i know i have made mistakes but i never intentionally Used anybody




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 3:43:36 PM)

See I don't think she used him, I just think she's in frenzy and latched onto the first decent guy who gave her a taste of being controlled and caring. She's riding high on very irrational emotions and I think he's feeding into it.




TearCollector -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 4:27:18 PM)




swtnsparkling
I created and posted this thread to bounce my thoughts and get the opinions of the masses. You have read and responded and for that I thank you.

My Decisions vs what you would have done
Our daily existence consists of a magnitude of opportunity, choices and decisions. On the battle field, there are Officers in charge that have been through intense training on how to react and respond to nearly every given situation. In a perfect world, that would translate into every soldier doing exactly the same thing because that is the only thing he knows. But it isn’t a perfect world. We all react differently in fluid situations and Im no exception. This is especially true when there is no text book on how to respond. All we have is our experience and what has worked for us in the past. What is acceptable limit of risk etc....

Easy from space to say "The world is round. Not because I say its round but because I see its round. And if you cant see that its round then your stupid." Which is how I interpreted your post. But on the ground, things appear much different. Mountains streams and obstacles. I was the only one on the ground during this operation. So I asked what it looked like from above. You told me. Thanks. But why would you not believe me when I say it’s not round on the surface? In this forum, we cant always have all the facts. It would be nice but its just not possible.

One thing Id like to think is that Im not completely stupid. Do you think I am? I understand you think I fell into a trap and that maybe I made some poor choices, but do I write like Im dumb? Do I appear in any way to be an idiot beyond some choices I made that are not popular with everyone? I honestly can’t answer that for you but I see intelligent people on both sides of the fence on this issue. So, Im going to think that it’s a volatile situation leading to extreme thoughts on both sides. All opinions worth hearing and all valued.

LuckyA
I tend to lean towards your point of view which is why I did what I did.

Farimir, You lack of response is getting a response from me!

TC




sultryvoice -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 4:48:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ExistentialSteel

I know this has been discussed on other threads, but I have never commented. There is something illogical about subs getting all that mail. I run into too many who can’t find a Dom to scene with or even talk with.

Trying to figure it out, I think there are two main factors. First, age has something to do with it. There are far more subs 40 or so than there are 20 year olds. This is because many come to D/s in their late 30s and 40s, in my opinion. Those who find it in their 20s rarely leave the lifestyle and as more find it later in life, the numbers grow. Doms, on the other hand, have usually been into things since their early 20s. The numbers of Doms don’t increase with age as it does with sub women. Thus, younger subs are outnumbered by Doms while older ones are not. Simple enough huh?

The whittling down of the number of available men is present also in vanilla life. I think we all know 40 plus year old women who search for dates on various boards and such with little luck.

Okay, the other factor. Truth. Many vanilla men will come here thinking they can wing it as far as being a Dom type. They have never spanked or whipped anyone, much less have a concept of TPE. They think they can be rough and that is all they need to do. Some subs may just want a man to be that at times, but most don’t. Many of the “Doms’ here only want an online or phone relationship. How many of you know subs who were stood up by Doms after months of online whatever?

So how does all this affect the ratio of mail? Subs tend to be exactly what they say they are on this site as far as the lifestyle. They have been spanked a time or two (not trying to make light of D/s here) or have an intense desire to find someone to dominate them. Whereas men can fake the Dom thing, women can’t fake the ability to sub. When that flogger starts to land, they are either into things or not.

(Before everyone jumps at once, I know there are exceptions where some women want to play slave online and never meet, but I’m speaking in general. My thoughts anyway.)




I do have to agree with the age thing. If you are a younger sub/slave, you are going to get more mail. Myself, I am over 50 and I get some but not like Tear Collector stated about that slave. I don't look my age but still I am not in my 20's or 30's. I am having a difficult time finding someone. Most are wanna-bes or they look terrible and don't have pride in how they appear.

I will keep looking and it will take as long as it takes..I will not settle. But, I am certainly glad I don't have to contend with the overabundance of emails..

Respectfully,
sultry




sultryvoice -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 4:58:48 PM)

I also hate cock shots..I don't want that to be the first thing I see when in contact with someone. I want to see them, their face and body clothed. If we see we can be together that would be the appropriate time to see his cock. I was in a yahoo group that one Dom had his cock shot in the photo file. He said that stated he was Dominant. Now tell me, how does that show one is Dominant?

Respectfully,
sultry




swtnsparkling -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 7:51:02 PM)

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Many of the “Doms’ here only want an online or phone relationship. How many of you know subs who were stood up by Doms after months of online whatever?

for every dom who stood a sub up there is a sub who stood a up a dom

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Subs tend to be exactly what they say they are on this site as far as the lifestyle.

HUH? so subs are exacltey what they say they are but the Doms on this site arent?

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Whereas men can fake the Dom thing, women can't fake the ability to sub. When that flogger starts to land, they are either into things or not.

women cant fake the ability to sub> wanna bet? what does being flogged have to do with the ability to sub? i could flogg my hubsband and he could take it even like it, but that sure doesnt me he is subbing to me. means he likes to be flooged.
once again, i am confused and my head hurts




swtnsparkling -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 7:59:51 PM)

Your welcome.

However i still think you used some good people and the reading of mails they most likey thought were private was IMO wrong.
and for the lenghty response, you are trying to hard to explain.
less is more.
Walk n Peace




MistressJenna -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/4/2005 8:26:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: KittenWithaTwist

If your friend has a picture, suggest to her that she remove it. This will curb the insistent mail. Also, have her put on mail controls to push a lot of the extra mail into "Bulk" so that it's less...noticeable. A friend of mine (a sub) has a picture of her body (neck down) in a bikini. She's thin and very attractive. She gets three pages of mail a day.


I agree with Kitten. I had my picture up for one day and had to take it down. Now I only give it on request. I also use the "bulk" features to block out the guys. Even though my profile say's lesbian I was still getting about 25-50 emails a day from male subs thinking they could convert me.




Focus50 -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/5/2005 2:03:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I find it interesting that you failed to include this part of my response:

Now, there's a balance here as always, and perceptions can vary. Someone saying "Please only local courters and non-smokers," is different than "NO ONE under 35, NO ONE over 50, NO MARRIED MEN, NO PLAYERS, NO WANNABES"

No mystery there, I happened to agree with you - as I have on most occasions when I haven't quoted you....

Focus.




Kasia -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/5/2005 2:25:39 AM)

TearCollector, you got yourself a girl that knows exactly what she wants and how to get it. Enjoy and stop justifying yourself [:)]




Focus50 -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/5/2005 2:48:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Chaingang

Hung up? I said I didn't care and wished him luck. Is there some ritualistic ass-kissing that must now be performed to make it all nice-nice or something?

Yes, truth is stranger than fiction, but how can we tell a tall tale from the truth? I figure I can't so I don't really try. But this story has some "smell test" problems. And it just so happens that the exact same day I suggest the ad is fake it gets pulled? How convenient - will wonders never cease?

Hey, it's this or the daily jumble...

Believe it or not, I quoted you for the comment on fake ads, and by extension, fake posts.

The "hung up" comment was not at you but more a rhetorical generalisation to those of us who supposedly get "sucked in" by fake posters. So I respond to the question asked and don't give a rat's clacker if some fool is sniggering about how clever he was to fool so many of us....

Clearly I failed to make that distinction and I can only imagine you chose not to see that as a possibility considering you've virtually repeated my same sentiment re fake posts....

I have no knowledge of "ritualistic ass-kissing" - but feel free to consider this clarification as being as close as it gets from me.... lol

Focus.




ExistentialSteel -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/5/2005 3:38:32 AM)

TearCollector, I'm happy for you and all that, but I doubted the wisdom of all this being hashed out in public from the very start. Some figured out who she was, so that means Doms could have figured out that you were reading mail not intended for you. Plus, you are discussing things between you and her on here. Lastly, you speak about the change you two underwent. That just seems kind of ....well, personal if nothing else. Lots of privacies violated here, including your own.




Padriag -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/5/2005 4:38:22 AM)

I think my only comment will be this.

How often we talk of reason, yet live by impulses.




TearCollector -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/5/2005 5:25:57 AM)

ExistentialSteel

I needed to bounce this off a group. Yes this is technically a public forum but I view it more as a private club. Its a gray area I guess but worth while just the same. What I did was very impulsive and uncharacteristic of me. But I did it anyway for reasons I already stated. Privacy sometimes gets sacrificed for good causes. Including my own. The impact is short term.

Padriag

Never were words more true. At 40 you would think reason would dominate my decision making. Yet, I have proven it doesn’t. LOL . But, things happen. Life goes on and we hope our choices work out for the best. The process was taxing and confusing but Im content with the results. So, now the only thing to do is play this out and see if things go the way they are predicted.

Twice in this thread, the unfolding events were considered suspect as fake by Focus50 and ChainGang. I assure you they were not. Although given the context of how games do get played on the web in general, I can’t say I blame them for their skepticism. Its fine and in my eyes irrelevant. I only even mentioned because of the profile being pulled and someone commenting on that as some sort of sign that this was not real. When I decided to take her, it made since to remove her from here. That’s all it was.

I wrote some lengthy replies because I started this thread and it concerned a major event unfolding for me. So I documented it in the company of people that had an understanding of what goes on at this site. To me, the matter of exposing my "private affairs" was a price I paid for a multifaceted look from the outside looking in. Your opinions had value to me so I laid it out there like a little soap opera. The event is over now. So things will go back to the way they should be and I will deal with the results of what I have done on my own. I imagine when she arrives, Ill have things pop up that Id like to understand better but they will most likely be specific questions and not the details of what Im doing with my new slave.

Thank you for being a part of my epic event
TC




Padriag -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/5/2005 5:54:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TearCollector

Padriag

Never were words more true. At 40 you would think reason would dominate my decision making. Yet, I have proven it doesn’t. LOL . But, things happen. Life goes on and we hope our choices work out for the best. The process was taxing and confusing but Im content with the results. So, now the only thing to do is play this out and see if things go the way they are predicted.

Yup. Not feeling all that wordy today, have a terrible toothache (and probably not in the best of moods either, so I'm keeping most of my remarks brief).
This whole thread has left me with a lot of food for thought. One was this... what would the moral of this story be if there were one? Carpe Diem? It pays to be ruthless? Nice guys finish last? He who hesitates is lost? I'm still pondering that one.

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Twice in this thread, the unfolding events were considered suspect as fake by Focus50 and ChainGang. I assure you they were not.

I don't have any reason to believe this was fake. I've seen it play out over and over. Truth be told your story is probably not uncommon. People get in a frenzy and rush into things. I know of a few situations right now that leave me shaking my head (like one in a "non-relationship" with a "master" who refuses to claim her because he's non-commital, but expects her to be faithful to him... she wants a commitment, so I'm thinking, she's with this guy why?). I've had more success getting submissives I met online to meet if I push them to do it quickly than most of those I took a slower pace with. Seems a lot of them, if they think about it much, panic and chicken out. The more I watch things here and on other web sites the more I'm reminded of a duck shoot. A submissive (the duck) shows herself and suddenly hundreds of "doms" (the hunters) pop up and let loose a barrage of emails, IMs, etc. like something out of an old cartoon. Whoever "bags" her seems to have more to do with luck and random percentages than individual merit. Its not a sport, its a shooting gallery. I don't approve of that, but its the way it is. I don't know what, if anything, CM could do to change it, but I wish them luck and encouragement in trying.

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Thank you for being a part of my epic event
TC

Thanks for sharing, its been interesting to watch.




Chaingang -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/5/2005 6:56:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Padriag
I know of a few situations right now that leave me shaking my head (like one in a "non-relationship" with a "master" who refuses to claim her because he's non-commital, but expects her to be faithful to him... she wants a commitment, so I'm thinking, she's with this guy why?). I've had more success getting submissives I met online to meet if I push them to do it quickly than most of those I took a slower pace with. Seems a lot of them, if they think about it much, panic and chicken out.


All these people not hooking up when the moment comes...I can speak only for myself here, but that conforms to my own definition of a "fake" or at least a "wannabe." That's why you put the word master in quotes above - you thereby indicate that you doubt such status based upon observed behavior. A real Master acts, a wannabe just wants a taste - however small, or however big that taste ends up being.

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ORIGINAL: Padriag
The more I watch things here and on other web sites the more I'm reminded of a duck shoot. A submissive (the duck) shows herself and suddenly hundreds of "doms" (the hunters) pop up and let loose a barrage of emails, IMs, etc. like something out of an old cartoon.


Again with the quotes!

[;)]

I recently learned the acronym HNG - which means Horny Net Geek (I think this is supposed to be male specific, but I see my share of females too - some are good enough to state "Online only" in their profiles). The "tidal wave" is a bunch of nonsense - mostly fakers and wannabes. Amongst them is no small number of married types looking for a cheap and easy thrill. There are SO MANY women married to vanilla and seeking strange out there. It does bring the quality of the site down, but I think one of my bigger points is that it's not just men doing this - I think it just seems that way.

Usually I am pretty good at spotting fakes, but I had one experience myself fairly recently. Some months back I was chatting up a women and some daily emails were flying back and forth and then suddenly "poof" she is gone. My best guess is that she was a woman seeking some kind of sexual validation - that she was attractive, wanted, still alive, whatever...

It's cool. I get it. It still wastes a lot of everyone's time. You not only need to set your bullshit detector to that "extra sensitive" mode but also to wear a thicker, Teflon skin and let the many disappoints just slide right off of you.

FWIW, I do think some of this is due to the less rigid standard many maintain as to exclusivity. On some level the people involved in the scene are seen as "players" or "swingers" or something like that. From the outside a HNG says to himself, "Wow, that couple doesn't care if I session with the sub half...?" And on that level the subculture attracts outsiders looking to take someone for a spin - a mere thrill-seeker. And really, what do we expect with that kind of message hanging out there?

Of course, from the inside I know that it takes all kinds: straight, polyamorous, gays, cuckolds, etc - that everyone is unique and individualistic. But as we are more sexually up front and open than is average it attracts an unwanted opportunistic element too. This unwanted element ends up being "the competition" for those searching in earnest.




subcheryl -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/5/2005 7:25:48 AM)





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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross


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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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when all of the sudden she asks, "why dont I want her".


Not that anyone actually acknowledged my original theory ;-) but oh did I ever see that coming!

- LA

I give total points to you. It's nice when you have a very classic case of people "going against every single piece of advice we ever put on here after the dozens and dozens of questions."

Not to be all negative or anything, but I'm not too hopeful on this working out long term.









I just had to respond to this. I am one of those who met my Dom/Master on here, we lived long distance, 1600 miles to be exact, I could not afford to come and go and neither could he due to time off issues, anyway as things happened, I lost my job, had no prospectives and my kids grown and not needing me, I took care of loose ends and packed up things and moved 1600 miles to him without meeting him in person, only talking on IM's and the phone, he did things that other doms/masters didn't that I was previously in contact with, and that was respect me enough to not talk only of sex and what would be demanded of me and that kind of thing we got to know one another the best we could, I came with a backup plan in case things did fall thru, and have been here now 10 months and things couldn't be any better, yes that could have been serious, but I also credit myself with haveing a good radar for people on meeting them and am rarely fooled by them, and knew if needed too could have gone to a womans shelter for the night and headed back home in a day or two. So not all things end miserably, they just both have to work a bit more at it that is all. Good luck Tearcollector! ! ! !




swtnsparkling -> RE: Tidal wave in a female slave message box (11/5/2005 9:16:22 AM)

Tear Collector,
i said what i felt and believed & still do. Quite honestly i am amazed to an extent that i'v been replieing to posts as much as i have since ( this is true or it was) i have always been a very quiet behind the scenes type person who basically would just read and observe.
i guess i cannot say that anymore - CM has me as Indecent now (somebody stop me LOL)

Anyway, even though i didn't agree with your tactics i truly do not wish unhappiness on anyone whether i like them or not, whether i agree with them or not. There is far to much sadness-loneliness-hate- in the world today. for the sake of your kids, yourself and your new slave with all sincerity i do wish you all the best, everyone deserves to be happy.
swt - (who will now go back to just obsrevering the post)
Good day.




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