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Low Budget Bondage - 6/17/2008 9:21:40 AM   
roland23


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I have met a number of subs online who seem to be interested in allowances or other tokens of appreciation.Hmmmm. Maybe I am just getting old(I remember when we didn't have to pay for water, it came out of the tap) but do most female subs expect some form of renumeration? Why is it acceptable for female doms to ask for money and not acceptable for male doms to do likewise? Is there a double standard out there? What ever happened to the days of low budget bondage?
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RE: Low Budget Bondage - 6/17/2008 9:23:36 AM   
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Just ditch the ones who want sugar daddies.

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RE: Low Budget Bondage - 6/17/2008 9:51:05 AM   
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Allowance? Tokens of appreciation?? Now, why didn't i ever think of that?

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RE: Low Budget Bondage - 6/17/2008 9:55:59 AM   
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Oooh...I need some new camera equipment and a Wii.  Think I'll go change my profile.

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RE: Low Budget Bondage - 6/17/2008 9:56:45 AM   
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I love tokens of appreciation. I got a flowering cyclamen for my birthday back in January. And a hanging basket of flowers for Mother's Day. And he's big on cards for all occasions.

When we met he brought me a little macrame anklet from Claire's, couldn't have cost more than $10. The meal he bought must have cost more.

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RE: Low Budget Bondage - 6/17/2008 10:30:36 AM   
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Who can I purpose to. I have a used cigar band. Thats not to funny cause when my ex's parents got married thats what they used for wedding bands.

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RE: Low Budget Bondage - 6/17/2008 10:32:13 AM   
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quote:

I have met a number of subs online who seem to be interested in allowances or other tokens of appreciation.Hmmmm. Maybe I am just getting old(I remember when we didn't have to pay for water, it came out of the tap) but do most female subs expect some form of renumeration? Why is it acceptable for female doms to ask for money and not acceptable for male doms to do likewise? Is there a double standard out there? What ever happened to the days of low budget bondage?


roland,

I checked the Dom handbook on the subject and it directs as follows.

If they ask, red flag,
if you really care, sending some unasked for things is appropriate.

CP

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RE: Low Budget Bondage - 6/17/2008 10:43:31 AM   
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I agree. When someone is asking you for things it seems to me like all they want you for is what is or could be in your wallet.

If you WANT to give someone something, thats a whole other horse

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RE: Low Budget Bondage - 6/17/2008 10:45:25 AM   
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I would also like to add that because some "subs", and I use that term loosely about some who ask for money, feel like it is a Doms job to care for them in all ways. Physically, mentally, and monetary

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RE: Low Budget Bondage - 6/17/2008 10:46:49 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: thespiritedsub

I would also like to add that because some "subs", and I use that term loosely about some who ask for money, feel like it is a Doms job to care for them in all ways. Physically, mentally, and monetary


Because they want to be enabled as parasites. I ignore those as worthless.

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RE: Low Budget Bondage - 6/17/2008 1:27:23 PM   
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Why not there are pro doms...pro subs.  Why not get a fee for dealing with all the trolls?
Problem is nobody would pay up.


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RE: Low Budget Bondage - 6/17/2008 1:53:13 PM   
Exquemelin


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quote:

ORIGINAL: roland23

I have met a number of subs online who seem to be interested in allowances or other tokens of appreciation.Hmmmm. Maybe I am just getting old(I remember when we didn't have to pay for water, it came out of the tap) but do most female subs expect some form of renumeration? Why is it acceptable for female doms to ask for money and not acceptable for male doms to do likewise? Is there a double standard out there? What ever happened to the days of low budget bondage?
Well why is it acceptable for female doms to ask for money? That's simple capitalism, supply and demand. I did a search for female subs in CT(where I'm from) with all ages, seeking male dominants. Got 3 pages of returns who'd been on this year. Did a search for male subs, same criteria except searching for female doms, 17 pages.

Female dominants seeking male subs, about 1 and half pages. Male doms seeking female subs, another 17 pages.

Why the lack of pro subs? From what I've heard it has to do with the physical demands of spending all day getting beaten and the potential danger that could happen from someone willing to pay to do so.

Personally my sub and I tend to split costs cause we're both broke from college loans. Neither one of us can spend all that freely. What we tend to spend more on than anything else is travel and dates.


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RE: Low Budget Bondage - 6/17/2008 2:18:48 PM   
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I don't know about MOST but this sub doesn't expect any sort of renumeration.

With that said, Daddy pays for nearly everything when we are together but i've never expected it. I do my best to make sure that he knows that him doing so is appreciated.

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RE: Low Budget Bondage - 6/17/2008 2:40:05 PM   
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My last relationship, I was working and he wasn't, so I paid for things.  Then he was working and I wasn't, so he paid for things.  Now we're both working, he earns far, far more than I do, he has spare cash, I have less, we both pay for things, but he gets most of it, possibly.  On the flip side, I do most of the travelling, I have more time.

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RE: Low Budget Bondage - 6/17/2008 2:47:13 PM   
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hmmm.. i have to say that this is a difficult subject for me in that i've always been the one that HAD to take care of things financially. (either they couldn't or wouldn't) But recently i've become sort of involved with someone (more of a LD rel. than anything) who can and will, and has even gone beyond what i'd call the gentleman paying for dinner. it's nice, but it's also very hard for me to accept when i can't pay for things equally. money has never been what i look for in a man... 

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RE: Low Budget Bondage - 6/17/2008 3:16:13 PM   
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I only ask Master for hugs and kisses.  When we do go out even though i offer he insists on paying for everything.  Now this may not be your take, but Master takes it as part of the Dom's job to take care of his sub in all ways.

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RE: Low Budget Bondage - 6/17/2008 4:06:39 PM   
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there are Doms that do ..... that refer to payments as training fees... I have been contacted by one ,  offering training services shortly after I came to collarme, even though in my profile I had stated I was in relationship <shrugs>    Supply and demand though means I don't have to choose someone who asks for money

as for asking or demanding gifts or tributes  as a sub ..  not me but I could see possibly some younger females  who are very attractive and high in demand doing so  who are so into  themselves as being so desirable that if a man wants her he should be will to prove it with his bankbook..which I do not view  as being submissive but protituting themselves .. as selling their sexual favours.... different from the way  I view prosubs and dommes who are  selling a service  of providing eroticism without intercourse   as their service.   

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RE: Low Budget Bondage - 6/17/2008 4:24:18 PM   
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I'd be suspicious.  A genuine pro-whatever usually doesn't waste time playing games, and will make it quite clear that they are in it professionally.

I don't expect any kind of gift in my personal life, but R&C usually pay for most things, especially if they know I've had a slow week.  It's nothing like "getting an allowance" though... we just swap turns paying for dinner and deciding who's going to drive.

Professionally, yes, I do have a fee, but I think that's something totally different than what you are talking about... I don't suppose you are talking to lots of young, probably 18-20 year old submissives on the other side, probably with one bikini picture up?


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RE: Low Budget Bondage - 6/17/2008 6:13:10 PM   
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I don't ask; in fact, I have had to insist they quit buying me things.
That being said, both of the doms I've had the pleasure (and yes, it was and is pleasure!) to be associated with, have been more than generous with me.
I have been very lucky.
If you can afford to do something special for someone you care about, and you feel so moved, do so.
Do NOT put yourself in debt to prove something. A dom has their affairs in order, and knows what they can and can't afford to do.
The right sub will help you to be successful, and then you can buy her all the sparkly stuff she needs!

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RE: Low Budget Bondage - 6/17/2008 6:37:02 PM   
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Are you meeting these submissives "Underneath the lantern by the barrack gate"?
 
[grin] The beaded bag and the slit skirt should have given them away." 


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