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What can I expect a female slave to do for me? - 11/3/2005 9:56:44 AM

rayjmaster

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There seems to be all types of slaves - and each have their own set of rules. I don't really understand this beacause I thought the idea of being a slave was to totally please the master.
My understanding of what a slave should do is as follows:
1. Cook, clean - general domestic duties
2. Wear the clothes of my choice
3. Give me sex on demand
4. Allow me to sexually experiment with them. For example I dream of waking up with a slave at the bottom of my bed who will take me to the toilet and clean my ass and drink my piss. Is that asking too much?
5. I also like the dea of making her cry, from verbal and/or physical abuse - and making her beg for mercy - kissing my feet to apologise
5. To allow me to humiliate her in public - call her names and generally make her look stupid
6. To be my friend and confidente when needed.
Can somebody help me?

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RE: What can I expect a female slave to do for me? - 11/3/2005 10:08:03 AM

perverseangelic

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You can expect a girl to do whatever you and that girl agree that she will do.

Relationships are incredibly highly individualized. It all depends on who you are with.'

For example--
"5. To allow me to humiliate her in public - call her names and generally make her look stupid "

I find this to be out of line. NOT because it's bad for the girl in question, but because it's imposing your power dynamic on people who didn't consent to being invovled in it. To me, this is pushing something on the public that the public didn't agree to be a part of. Much as how I would feel if someone gave another person a blow job in public, or peed their pants in a resteraunt.

I find non-consensual invovlment in dynamics to be highly distasteful. Well, that and in this situation, it's likely that someone could call the police for domestic abuse.

Beyond that, it's up to -you- and your partner. Of course submissive people have preferences. THe trick is to find a partenr who has preferences that fufill you both.

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RE: What can I expect a female slave to do for me? - 11/3/2005 10:14:55 AM

Quivver

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quote:

ORIGINAL: rayjmaster

There seems to be all types of slaves - and each have their own set of rules. I don't really understand this beacause I thought the idea of being a slave was to totally please the master.
My understanding of what a slave should do is as follows:
1. Cook, clean - general domestic duties
2. Wear the clothes of my choice
3. Give me sex on demand
4. Allow me to sexually experiment with them. For example I dream of waking up with a slave at the bottom of my bed who will take me to the toilet and clean my ass and drink my piss. Is that asking too much?
5. I also like the dea of making her cry, from verbal and/or physical abuse - and making her beg for mercy - kissing my feet to apologise
5. To allow me to humiliate her in public - call her names and generally make her look stupid
6. To be my friend and confidente when needed.
Can somebody help me?

is this your *list* or simply your understanding?
if it's only your understanding, I'd suggest figuring out what you expect/want/need.
if it's your list, then as Perverseangelic said, find one that agree's with you on these points.

Q

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RE: What can I expect a female slave to do for me? - 11/3/2005 10:15:26 AM

lonewolf05

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and each have their own set of rules. I don't really understand this

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what do you NOT understand? there is NO manual for international thoughts and feelings so ALL people have different needs, wants, desires.

and "I" thought THIS was understand by everyone on this planet,............SIR?

have a happy one

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RE: What can I expect a female slave to do for me? - 11/3/2005 10:17:16 AM

LuckyAlbatross

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quote:

ORIGINAL: rayjmaster

There seems to be all types of slaves - and each have their own set of rules. I don't really understand this beacause I thought the idea of being a slave was to totally please the master.

Yes but "please the master" is hardly universal.

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My understanding of what a slave should do is as follows:

You mean what YOUR slave should do.

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1. Cook, clean - general domestic duties

Many doms prefer doing these things.

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4. Allow me to sexually experiment with them. For example I dream of waking up with a slave at the bottom of my bed who will take me to the toilet and clean my ass and drink my piss. Is that asking too much?

Of EVERY person in the world, yes. Of the person who agrees to be in a relationship with you knowing that is what you will expect, no.

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RE: What can I expect a female slave to do for me? - 11/3/2005 11:37:23 AM

theRose4U

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quote:

ORIGINAL: rayjmaster

There seems to be all types of slaves - and each have their own set of rules. I don't really understand this beacause I thought the idea of being a slave was to totally please the master.
My understanding of what a slave should do is as follows:
1. Cook, clean - general domestic duties
2. Wear the clothes of my choice
3. Give me sex on demand

Well your profile reads as if you are an M Top just looking for a plaything in which case more power to you & good luck finding the doormat of your dreams. If this is NOT the case and you are truly looking for guidence then the above 3 are not that unusual depending on what you agree upfront...BDSM checklist is your friend!!

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4. Allow me to sexually experiment with them. For example I dream of waking up with a slave at the bottom of my bed who will take me to the toilet and clean my ass and drink my piss. Is that asking too much?

This is going to be a rare find though there are those out there that would have no issue.

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5. I also like the dea of making her cry, from verbal and/or physical abuse - and making her beg for mercy - kissing my feet to apologise
5. To allow me to humiliate her in public - call her names and generally make her look stupid
6. To be my friend and confidente when needed.

This is where your approach really bothers me. IMHO you want some one to treat like crap that will then care for you when necessary and keep their mouth shut. Why would you want to spend your time training & caring for a walking talking doormat that you only scrape the dregs of your affection on?

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Can somebody help me?

Considering that this is a brand new profile and the points that you have made, I would HIGHLY suggest reading websites & books to educate you that this is not how your average BDSM arrangement works...contrary to porn portrayal. Seeing/meeting/ discussing with those in this lifestyle or your local dungeon may show you that what you THINK you desire and how these arrangements usually play out in reality are very different.

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RE: What can I expect a female slave to do for me? - 11/3/2005 11:46:31 AM

littleone35

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All i can say to you is good luck. In my experience subs i have met are intelligent women/men who have pride in themeselves and the Master they are serving. I don't know many if any that want to be a doormat.

You want to humilate this poor girl in public then expect het to serve you with devotion and love? You may but i think it will be hard for you to find someone who will do that. of course i could be wrong.

littleone

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RE: What can I expect a female slave to do for me? - 11/3/2005 11:48:30 AM

KCMOLucky

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Tell me something... What's your perception of what you're 'supposed' to do for your slave? To me your version of her requirements seems like an idealized form of a robot. What pleasure is she to derive out of being your slave? No one's going to drink your pee on demand if they don't enjoy doing it for you, or for themselves. True, you *might* happen upon a no-limits, masochistic pain slut who will let you do anything and everything to her, but I sincerely doubt it.

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5. I also like the dea of making her cry, from verbal and/or physical abuse - and making her beg for mercy - kissing my feet to apologise

Are you really serious about this one? (I'm only picking one. Believe me, I'd like to pick more, I just don't have the time to disect your entire message)

You would physically, verbally, emotionally, and, if I was a betting woman, sexually ABUSE her, and then make her appologize for being the landing place for your blows and whims? That's also phycological abuse. I mean, if you want a walking shell of a woman to fuck and beat, sure, go ahead, pay no attention to her needs, wants, desires. But I promise you that she will either wind up resenting you and hating your footsteps as you come into the house, or she will give up her want, her desire to serve, and will become a reclusive automaton.

And THEN you have the audacity to put this:

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6. To be my friend and confidente when needed.

Why in the world would someone be a friend or confidant to a person who ABUSED them, ridiculed them, humiliated them, and gave no care of their concern. Sure, you can talk all you want to her, tell her that you wish the world was a better place, that you have dreams of this and that; but you can do that to a pet rock, too.

My only suggestion to you that wouldn't insult you would be to explore with other Master/slave dulaities on this website, or others, and observe their dynamic, whether it be for a day, or a weekend. Watch their routine, their exchanges, their behaviors and find out what you'd appreciate, what you'd like to learn more about.

Good luck.

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RE: What can I expect a female slave to do for me? - 11/3/2005 11:59:38 AM

LuckyAlbatross

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quote:

ORIGINAL: littleone35

All i can say to you is good luck. In my experience subs i have met are intelligent women/men who have pride in themeselves and the Master they are serving. I don't know many if any that want to be a doormat.

I don't see any of the things he listed as being a doormat- just someone into those sorts of things.

Why is a slave who is fulfilled by serving by:
A doing general domestic duties
B being told what to wear
C being used for sex at any time
D drinking piss, used for toilet cleaning and made to sleep at the end of the bed
E making her cry and beg forgiveness
F into humiliation and degradation
G be a friend a confident

a doormat? None of those things equates to the other IMO.

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You want to humilate this poor girl in public then expect het to serve you with devotion and love? You may but i think it will be hard for you to find someone who will do that. of course i could be wrong.

Not so hard. Some of us are into humiliation.

The hard part will be the period of waking up from his fantasy illusions and realizing all the work that goes into forming a long term relationship that includes all of that.

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RE: What can I expect a female slave to do for me? - 11/3/2005 12:10:45 PM

pet4mymaster

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i must say that i agree with those posted before me....all submissives and slaves are differant and while you will find some that are "no limit" (willing to do anything and everything you tell them to) it is rare to find.....many submissives and slaves have some things that they just(no matter how much training and/or punishment they receive) either can not or will not do...it is not ment to be disrespectful...it is merly a fact of human nature...while subs and slaves due consider it our fulfillment to pleasure our Dom/Domme/Master/Mistress we are still living breathing human beings who have been rasied for the most part in the vanilla world...i know that some on here have been raised in BDSM family but not many from what i have seen....however because of our upbringing it is harder for soem of us to do everything our Dom/Domme wants without any hesitation
i have no doubt that you will find someone willing to do all the thiongs you want and i wish you the best in your search...i hope that i have not offened you or anyone else in what i have written and will gladly talk to you further on the matter if you so wish it
thank you for your time and have a pleasent day

Serving Sir Now and Always with Pleasure and Pride~Pet~

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RE: What can I expect a female slave to do for me? - 11/3/2005 12:19:03 PM

plantlady64

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5. I also like the dea of making her cry, from verbal and/or physical abuse - and making her beg for mercy - kissing my feet to apologise

APOLOGISE FOR WHAT???? YOU BEING ABUSIVE????
Hello Sir,
Verbal and physical abuse is not welcome in my BDSM world. Impact play and pain are. There’s a huge difference in the two.
A good Master does not abuse his slaves, he disciplines, nurtures, and controls them much like a good King would.
What do you get from being abusive? Hurt feelings, that’s what you get.

Most of the friends in the life I have find pain and pleasure a journey the two take together and not abusive or intended to be abuse.
Wipe your feet elsewhere thank you very much.
The way it works for my Master and I is he uses pain play to take me to the edge of myself and back on a journey he controls.
Abuse is what an ass who hides under the title of Master but isn't one does. Usually the abusive Masters are ones who lack confidence, structure, and discipline practice.
Maybe you will find someone who has no self worth or self-esteem who will accept the position of your trying to fill. To me being your abused cleaning woman you want to stomp in the heart, mind, and body is only going to be found in someone who needs mental help..
My advice is to RESPECT THE GIFT OF SUBMISSION and value the slave that would serve you. We slaves are people with hearts, feelings, and needs too. Maybe if you show some respect, you'll get some back.

Sincerely,
sub suzanne

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RE: What can I expect a female slave to do for me? - 11/3/2005 12:28:09 PM

anopheles

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To the OP, your list looks like a laundry list of fantasies. However, do you have what it takes to put those fantasies into practice if they are that strong and important to you? It takes a hell of a lot of work on your part to get someone to do those things for you. Also, be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it. If you take your slave out and humiliate her in public, for example, then you shouldn't be surprised it she doesn't want to be your friend and confidante. For some (not all), being degraded turns them into nothing more than a slave. They don't want to be a friend, they are just a slave, so you set yourself up for disappointment when you want and expect that, but unknowingly, you've trained them into not being able to genuinely not being able to deliver the things that you thought sounded good at the time.

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RE: What can I expect a female slave to do for me? - 11/3/2005 12:30:50 PM

MasterTalion

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from my background, experience, and study of D/s in general, there is no 'One Size Fits All' in this lifestyle. You have your wants and needs, a sub/slave will have their own personal wants/needs and limitations. It's going to depend heavily on the person you find, if they will allow you do to what you want. Sometimes there are things that only .005% of slaves out there will do, and if you find the one that will do that, then congrats. :)

on the other side, from what I'm looking for, I can't see myself that way. I want a sub, but also want this female to be a friend to myself and my current sub. I don't want to dominate her 24/7, I want her to have limited freedoms for certain things. I want her to be able to speak up occasionally, to tell me what is on her mind from time to time. but I would also expect this sub that I find to not question any order or command that I give her.

Personally, I've never raised a hand to a woman in my life outside of the bedroom or in a Master way. I've never seen the point of humiliating a sub in public.... I don't want that kind of attention or drama directed at me. I want someone who will help me live comfortably, will do what I ask, both sexually and non-sexually, will be a friend/sub/life partner for my fiance and I.

~~ Master Talion

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RE: What can I expect a female slave to do for me? - 11/3/2005 1:56:02 PM

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a "slave" does what ever the "Master" she serves wants.....cooking cleaning what ever....a "submissive" has choices a slave does as she is told.

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RE: What can I expect a female slave to do for me? - 11/3/2005 2:01:38 PM

schamali55

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parli Italy? io sono slave ciao Anna

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RE: What can I expect a female slave to do for me? - 11/3/2005 2:07:46 PM

Belladonna82

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huh? if u are talking about my name...lol no i am not italian......my ex used to call me that...bella donna aka in italian beautiful woman but i am also Pagan and use alot of herbs and belladonna is one which is deadly....so i am either beautiful or deadly lol..Master liked it so it kept

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RE: What can I expect a female slave to do for me? - 11/3/2005 2:56:32 PM

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This is where your approach really bothers me. IMHO you want some one to treat like crap that will then care for you when necessary and keep their mouth shut. Why would you want to spend your time training & caring for a walking talking doormat that you only scrape the dregs of your affection on?

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RE: What can I expect a female slave to do for me? - 11/3/2005 3:01:01 PM

cravinspankin

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OOPS!!
Please forgive me A/all. Still very new to the boards and learning how to use them properly.
... the last post was intended to quote theRose's comments, and add a big "Amen."

Seems so many think dominance is about what they see trailer trash guys in the movies doing.
What he described i, in my humble opinion, don't consider dominance but abuse.

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RE: What can I expect a female slave to do for me? - 11/3/2005 3:33:58 PM

mnottertail

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most anything I expect. How does that fulfill her? Aye........there's the rub.

ron

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RE: What can I expect a female slave to do for me? - 11/4/2005 6:10:08 AM

Evanesce

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Not so hard. Some of us are into humiliation.

Well, yes, but his description tends to lead one to believe this is more than your average humiliation scene. He needs to understand that, while it may be perfectly all right to break down his slave emotionally and psychologically, he then has the responsibility to put her back together again and make her feel safe in that humiliation. Otherwise, he's just causing damage that could have far-reaching effects he's not even considered yet.

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