LordODiscipline
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Though I do agree that binding to an inmate object does increase the difficulty of escape, I disagree about using sweat as a lubricant and lack of strecheness being ineffective when doing an escape scene from rope. Sweat as a lubricant is VERY common in rope escapes. Stretch, though higher percentage in duct tape, is done over at maximum a few feet of the stuff. Stretch on a 20 foot rope, though lower in percentage, will overall give a bigger length of slack to take up.
At least your willing to admit that people able to escape from your bondage *DO* exist. But that you haven't ran into one yet only shows you don't get out much 
Oh, and I hope you enjoyed thumping your chest and bragging about how you intentionally limit your knowledge of the craft by discrediting "books and/or lectures". Maybe if you actually were willing to listen to authors/teachers you could expand your knowledge base. ..... In my defense, I would like to point out that the lectures I learned the most from was the one at shibaricon. Check out the "Resistance Bondage" blurb at this link http://www.shibaricon.com/schedule.html#je
Wow -
ok - I might be dealing with a miscreant...
1. I never said I never read any of the books (I have an extensive library)
2. I never stated that I did not attend lectures (I attend all of those possible with my schedule)
3. I have learned a lot from simply observing people with more/different experience - most often there is at least one thing that they have practiced immensely -and, that is always worth the time.
4. I stated, that I have not limited myself by simply reading up on these things and not extensively experimenting and using my knowledge outside of the scene for additions to my knowledge base (I am a qualified rigger/lifter and an engineer).
5. Short lengths of rope are the means of accomplishing low overall expansion through the stretching of a significant length (if you knew Shibari, you would understand this)
6. Saran wrap does not have the same abillity as the tensile strength is not intended to "not" stretch. And, it has a low coeefficient of friction - therefore it slides easily along (and, off) the body
7. Duct tape binds only through it's adhesive... and it is intended to be maleable for the purpose of a speedy production/winding on the spindle.
8. Sweat does contribute to assistance in anyone attempting to remove themselves, but is not near as effective with natural/cotton/multiweave ropes, as they tend to absorb it quite well. And, there are ways of avoiding this by limiting contact with the skin.
9. Natural rope has a high(er) coeeficient of friction than either of those products (once the adhersive has been rendered moot throug repetitious moving- duct tape is simply fibre mesh and silicon... rather slippery)
10 Your friend's ability due to her physicality is definitvely understood (as noted her wrists present conical shapes without the normal chamfer of wrist joints that would assist in holding the rope in place- and, that does not lend towards effective bondgage of that area) - but, her arms could have been bound limiting her movement of the forearms and then a restrictor on her could have been fashioned in order to stop downward (from the waist) movement, which would prevent removal by slipage.
On the timbre of your posings:
You apparently do not have much understanding of common english or ignore what is being written, as you (conveniently?) gloss over any understanding of what I am conveying in an attempt to elevate yourself at another's expense.
Not exactly mature... but, hey - those were my expectations in a discussion about the technicalities of bondage. And, expectations are meant to be dashed <sniff>.
I would suggest though that you (yourself) might learn something from these postings should you choose to not post in an offensively defensive style.
We are not necessarily out here to slam you... and, insulting others does not endear you to our hearts.
Please do look me up if you are ever about in the NYC area and desire a lesson or two.
Other than that - I appreciate the fact you are a bondage fanatic.. albeit a brusque one)...
But, hey - I don't get out much, so what do I know?
~J
< Message edited by LordODiscipline -- 11/14/2005 8:59:18 AM >
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