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RE: Dems Agree to Expand Domestic Spying, Grant Telecom... - 6/20/2008 2:47:14 PM   
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The contradiction is astonishing: on the one hand, too much government intervention is bad, bad, bad, I tell you, because the govenrment cannot be trusted and it's evil. On the other hand though, we should trust the bad, interventionist, nosy government with eavesdropping on our private lives.




Hey, kittin ... no offense, but, ya know ... you can always go back to France, or the UK, or one of those colonial islands still owned by them and enjoy their brand of "rights".

Surely, those European countries don't have the same neo-nazi government and repressive culture that we citizens of the United States must suffer through, do they?

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RE: Dems Agree to Expand Domestic Spying, Grant Telecom... - 6/20/2008 2:59:46 PM   
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Ah, yes, the forever watchful eye for the evil aliens of this world  .

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RE: Dems Agree to Expand Domestic Spying, Grant Telecom... - 6/20/2008 3:20:27 PM   
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or one of those colonial islands still owned by them


Hey, that's my dream Firm!  I want to buy a bar on a island in the South Pacific.  I won't shave for weeks at a time, wear nothing but oversized Guayabera shirts and cargo shorts.  I want to drink all day while I play billiards and fleece tourists.  If I get that dream going for me.....Fuck America. 

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RE: Dems Agree to Expand Domestic Spying, Grant Telecom... - 6/20/2008 3:26:18 PM   
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The US SENATE  being of vastly inferior morals, and considerably less turpitude will not let this occur, in my view.  (they are also magnitudinally easier to spot individually in the headlights)

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RE: Dems Agree to Expand Domestic Spying, Grant Telecom... - 6/20/2008 3:39:20 PM   
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DomKen, all parties have wackos in them.
We just don't march in lock-step with them in the C.P. like the Democrats do.
Watch the DNC in Denver this August!
"YES WE CAN!"
"SHOW ME THE MONEY!"
If Obama gets in I hope you don't think you'll be getting a National Healthcare Plan!
Do you think Johnson and Johnson, Squibb, Pfizer and all the other big pharmaceutical companies who's money Obama will now be accepting are going to allow that to happen?

"YES WE CAN!!!"
And you don't think Obama's going to be hanging out with the likes of neighborhood organizers anymore I hope.
You can expect him to be hanging out with his "new friends", golf pros, CEOs, CFOs, COOs, Director of the Boards etc.
And you know why?
Because, ....THEY SHOWED HIM THE MONEY!



Yes, of course the political cesspool of Washington wades deep with both parties but let us also remember to give the dems a real chance here. We discovered a long time ago, the dems are mere pedestrians...amateurs while the repubs are the real pros. So it will take a little while for the dems to jump in bed with the K St. project. Obama will see the light or will have to go. I am conjuring in my mind now just how they plan on doing it, if their new neocon puppet McCain is not elected.



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RE: Dems Agree to Expand Domestic Spying, Grant Telecom... - 6/20/2008 3:48:15 PM   
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Its not "protected"


That which is not explicitly delegated is explicitly reserved.

See the 9th and 10th Amendments to the Constitution of the United States.



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RE: Dems Agree to Expand Domestic Spying, Grant Telecom... - 6/20/2008 3:51:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NumberSix

The US SENATE  being of vastly inferior morals, and considerably less turpitude will not let this occur, in my view.  (they are also magnitudinally easier to spot individually in the headlights)

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Nope... Obama is on record as supporting the unlawful spying amnesty -- "it's over, Johnny."




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RE: Dems Agree to Expand Domestic Spying, Grant Telecom... - 6/20/2008 4:18:46 PM   
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or one of those colonial islands still owned by them


Hey, that's my dream Firm!  I want to buy a bar on a island in the South Pacific.  I won't shave for weeks at a time, wear nothing but oversized Guayabera shirts and cargo shorts.  I want to drink all day while I play billiards and fleece tourists.  If I get that dream going for me.....Fuck America. 


Sounds too good to be true and expensive. There is always say Mexico and right on our border and sorta S. Pacific too. I am sure they'd let you drink all day and fleece all the tourists the market will provide.

But now that I think of it...maybe not. They could kick you out anytime and for any reason. Deny you a business license without 'local' partner as allowed by their laws. Deny you citizenship for any reason, chief among them...you are Anglo (and even if you are not...maybe African descent).

Shall we make this a real long list of beautiful retirement locales ?

Fuck America indeed...who in their right mind would ever want to live there ?

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RE: Dems Agree to Expand Domestic Spying, Grant Telecom... - 6/20/2008 4:23:35 PM   
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Diesel (government subsidized) at 2 and a quarter?  40% domestic production?  Texas truckdrivers going there to work...........


LOL.

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RE: Dems Agree to Expand Domestic Spying, Grant Telecom... - 6/20/2008 4:24:39 PM   
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Fuck America indeed...who in their right mind would ever want to live there ?



Thanks a lot  .

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RE: Dems Agree to Expand Domestic Spying, Grant Telecom... - 6/20/2008 4:37:29 PM   
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Fuck America indeed...who in their right mind would ever want to live there ?



Thanks a lot  .


You obvioulsy didn't see the humor (sarcasm) or you are mess'n with me...

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RE: Dems Agree to Expand Domestic Spying, Grant Telecom... - 6/20/2008 4:38:50 PM   
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You obvioulsy didn't see the humor (sarcasm) or you are mess'n with me...



Nod nod nod   .

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RE: Dems Agree to Expand Domestic Spying, Grant Telecom... - 6/20/2008 5:46:17 PM   
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Sounds too good to be true and expensive. There is always say Mexico and right on our border and sorta S. Pacific too. I am sure they'd let you drink all day and fleece all the tourists the market will provide.

But now that I think of it...maybe not. They could kick you out anytime and for any reason. Deny you a business license without 'local' partner as allowed by their laws. Deny you citizenship for any reason, chief among them...you are Anglo (and even if you are not...maybe African descent).

Shall we make this a real long list of beautiful retirement locales ?

Fuck America indeed...who in their right mind would ever want to live there ?


Oh for fuck's sake, get a sense of humor Captain Buzzkill.  I was kidding around. 

But if you really want to be serious, get a globe.  The U.S. owns Hawaii, the Northern Mariana Islands, American Samoa, and Guam.  The Marshall Islands, the Federated States of Micronesia, and Palau are all in Compacts of Free Association with us.  So they have a fairly open door policy on American citizens living there. 

If you're going to be sarcastic, at least make an informed sarcastic remark. 

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RE: Dems Agree to Expand Domestic Spying, Grant Telecom... - 6/21/2008 5:21:50 PM   
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It is truly scary that you don't worry about it.  Is that not one of the fundamental principles that this country was created on?


Why would I worry about whether or not the FBI knows what I want on my pizza??? If they spent ALL day yesterday monitoring my cell phone - they would have learned that I wanted the woman who cleans for me to pick up groceries at sams club which have already been bought and paid for through "click n pull", that Im not interested in replacement windows, that my friend Jen has yet more boyfriend drama, that Im not interested in making money with Quixtar, that my moms cable TV went out, that the bank deposit I made had cleared, that my client Kyle is a complete fucktard, that Dale is working Saturday but Jerry is working Sunday, that BrittneyLee is dumb as a sack of rocks, that Im not interested in coming to a free Mormon bible study, that my dental cleaning is rescheduled, that Jen's boyfriend drama is OK now and they are back in love, that Im not interested in listing my house, that Im not interested in a job, that I do indeed want daily delivery of the Houston Chronicle, that my moms cable is back on, that kyle is a bigger fucktard than I thought, and that I want a pizza with anchovies and canadian bacon. If they want to hire an agent to keep track of all that - I pity the poor fucker.

Im not a criminal or a terrorist, there is nothing on my cell phone I dont want the govt to know about.  On the rare occasions when I do break a minor law, like if I order a hooker from Craigslist, I use a prepaid cell that was bought and recharged with cash, that has no ties to me, and that hasnt ever even been turned on within two miles of a cell site near my house.

The framers of the constitution really didnt even imagine telecom. Its not "protected" I say natl security trumps privacy. Id rather they know the above, than that they dont know what Abdul and Mohammed are up to...



Say.....

Can you repeat that shit about the pizza once more and then click your heels three times, and take us all back to Kansas, Dorthy?






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