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CanYouMakeMeFly -> RE: A Gift??? (11/12/2005 10:05:59 AM)
Thank you for putting words so incredibly well to what I was sitting here trying to put together based upon my viewpoints. When you make the decision to surrender that part of yourself to the One, therein lies the gift. quote: ORIGINAL: Tapestry i agree that this is who i am - deep inside, my personality, whether i acknowledge it or not, it's there. but i think that the idea of the gift comes into play because it is my choice whom i will submit myself to and when i have been sufficiently wooed and courted and reassured to the point that i am willing to submit, at that point, i am offering my deepest self, and in that respect, yes it's a gift. and yes, sadly, the gift does not have to be accepted but it was my choice to offer it for no Dom or Master can actually control what I don't allow him to, hence the reason this is called transferring my power...it's mine to give away and yes, i will, one way or another, find a Dom to transfer that power to because it is an important part of me

angelynne -> RE: A Gift??? (11/12/2005 10:32:36 AM)
hello All i dont want to get in a fight here, just wanted to put in my 2 cents. i don't feel my submission is a gift in any way... it's simply who i am. if anything, the "gift" is the hard work Master puts into training me, keeping me in line, taking care of me and, well, "mastering" me. i am constantly grateful that he doesn't just release me for someone "easier"... sometimes i feel guilty because i think i'm gaining so much more than he is, and every day i strive to become a better slave and make his life easier, to repay him in some small way for all that he's given me. being a Master is hard work... and i don't think it's right to diminish all they put out for us by calling submission a "gift". no flames please, just one slave's humble opinion.

darkinshadows -> RE: A Gift??? (11/12/2005 11:43:15 AM)
If submission is a gift. How can you use it if you give it away? Submission is not a gift to give or take. That is romantic falicy to appease those outside of wiitwd. Domination is a gift that the dominant has. Submission is the gift that the sub/slave has. Give a gift like that away - you never use it again. How many gifts have you given away that you can use with consistant and regular time, without having to ask the person who you gave it to? If you claim you do, then it wasnt a gift in the first place, just something you could look great in giving away, with the added advantage of knowing you can use it when you want. Think about it - thats not a gift, thats just convenient. Peace and Rapture

nephandi -> RE: A Gift??? (11/12/2005 1:03:44 PM)
quote: I see just how much effort Masters and Dom/mes and Owners and Tops put into their relationships with their counterparts. Its something most of them work hard at Where being a sub is a walk on roses always, we never have to work for the relationship, we dont have situations and days where we just want to scream, generaly we just sit back and enyoy the ride? Both the Dominant and and submissive have to work to make a relationship work, and if one want to be poetic, and call anything aboute a relationship a gift, the submissive gives just as mutch as the Dominant do, mary refer to love as a gift, and if love can be a gift, so can submission. As for Raven`s coment, well that is true for women as well, we do look at prospective partners, analysing if this is the right man for us, forcourse somone would just into bed whit anyone or take anoyone for a partner, but then, so would many men. Even submissive women do this, if coservative Jo from Texas came and said to a submissive woman i want to be whit you, i want you for my wife, most likely a submissive woman would politly say no thank you, we all search for the one that will fit the qualifications we ourself have.

krys -> RE: A Gift??? (11/13/2005 10:59:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: nephandi Where being a sub is a walk on roses always, we never have to work for the relationship, we dont have situations and days where we just want to scream, generaly we just sit back and enyoy the ride? Well since I never said or implied anything of the kind, I can not imagine where you got that idea. But perhaps that is a subject that will come up when there are endless posts from Masters and Mistresses on how they are a "gift".

nephandi -> RE: A Gift??? (11/13/2005 11:05:39 AM)
quote: Its just my opinion of people that consider themselves a "gift". I find the attitude that someone considers themselves a gift someone else should believe themselves blessed to have egotistical and abhorrent. I see just how much effort Masters and Dom/mes and Owners and Tops put into their relationships with their counterparts. Its something most of them work hard at, and to call it a gift implies that it just falls into their lap with no effort on their part. i got the idea from this post from you krys, but i can have misunderstod you, pepole somtimes misunderstand one another, if i have misunderstood you then i am sorry.

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