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pinkieplum -> RE: Is It Time to Seek a Restraining Order? (6/22/2008 8:13:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Maya2001

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This week my sister in law sent me a series of 'hate emails', demanding i cut off all contact with my brother. i have no doubt she'd already tried and failed to force him to cut off all contact with me.


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As it happens, i have several rather pressing reasons why i need to see my brother now.  For example, he writes himself checks on my account when he buys me anything. i never use checks; i pay my bills online and what little shopping i do, i pay for with my debit card.  Now, 7 checks are 'missing'.  i'm a little stressed about the risk of bouncing checks.  i really need him to help me find out what amounts he wrote these checks for, and why they haven't cleared.


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He can no longer comprehend a simple sentence; or retain any info in short term memory; or drive quite as well; etc. 


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continued to see my brother regularly.  He'd run errands for me and we'd stop and chat; or we'd have b'fast out together; or i'd drive over to his office and take him out to lunch now and then.



i need him to do some things for me i'm unable to do.  And i need him to help me straighten out the mess he's made of my acccount.


First off I am really ..really puzzled as to why you posted a personal family problem under "ask a Master"    Off topic probably would have been more appropriate since this is not a BDSM  topic

And?

Somehow I very much think that there is a very different side to this story  if one spoke to his wife.

Doubtless.

the descriptions you give of your brother are extremely conflicting... you state  he has no short turn memoy or is able to understand a simple sentence  but  at the same time want him to help you with bank accounts.. run errands for you... he is still capable of working in an office and he is according to you able to get under the control net  of his wife. 

i have had two P/pl i was close with at work come down with neurological problems.  One has MS; the other has Parkinsosn's.  In both cases i had noticed them seemed to grow fatgued more easily, and such, but then there was a rather short period in which they became highly symptomatic.  My friend with MS lost his abiliy to speak rather suddenly.
 
Both of them were lawyers handling complex litigation.
 
If he is so dysfunctional  as your claiming how can you be expecting him to help you or want to make demands of him ???

i've reflected on this and as bet i can recall, the symptoms i mentioned have appeared within the last month. 

It sounds more like you would like to find a way to destroy his marriage  so as to get her out of the picture ...simply because you do not agree with or like her and the fact she is more an important part of his life than you are.....

S'one piss in yr wheaties this morning Maya?  There's no comparing apples and oranges here.  She's his wife -- i'm his sister.  Yes, he knows we don't get along, and i have told him i'm sorry about that, but it's never crossed my mind to 'plot against her' and try and manipulate my brother into divorcing her.  i assume they'll be married 'till death do them part'.

that is his life...his choice  not yours  by trying to bring a gay black man to a family function she was hosting, knowing how she felt  would appear to me as though you were intentionally trying to goad her and when she  got  upset you ,   you started insulting her  basically instigating the trouble...

Well, i guess you hadda be there Maya.  i didn't go looking for an African-American, gay man so i could attempt to take him to a party and upset my sister in law.  i was getting my hair done, and my stylist told me he had no NY's Eve plans...so i tried to include him in mine. 

and I am assuming by what is written  you are still trying including  using her job  to destroy her ...

i'm very reluctant to do anything that would impact her professionally.  For a variety of reasons, not the least of which is i assume they need both incomes to meet their obligations.

do you not realize by hurting her ..you are also trampling on your brother's life.... maybe his health problems are related to stress ...which you are adding to with crap like this

Possibly -- it's occured to me (too late) that i could have simply ignored her emails and not responded.
 
....of course this is just my opinion based on my interpretation  of your comments here and how you have responded in other threads

Well, Maya,i infer from this that you have a low opinion of me.  i'm just devastated, LOL.
 
pinkieplum





WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Is It Time to Seek a Restraining Order? (6/22/2008 8:17:32 AM)

DomAviator,

I really hate it when you post things that I agree with!  It simply derails my entire "all things are right with the universe" philosophy.  However, I guess I just have to suffer through the trauma and accept my fate. 







CalifChick -> RE: Is It Time to Seek a Restraining Order? (6/22/2008 8:44:42 AM)

You're an attorney, you're broke, you're not thinking past the moment (responding to harsh emails, inviting someone to a party that with 30 seconds of thought you should have realized was a bad idea) you're relying on your seemingly incapacitated brother to run errands for you, you're posting "help" messages in "Ask a Master" because "Masters have a protective streak"...

Can you really not see what is wrong with this picture?

Cali






GreedyTop -> RE: Is It Time to Seek a Restraining Order? (6/22/2008 9:21:54 AM)

my guess is the answer would be no, Cali




stef -> RE: Is It Time to Seek a Restraining Order? (6/22/2008 9:25:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

You're an attorney, you're broke, you're not thinking past the moment (responding to harsh emails, inviting someone to a party that with 30 seconds of thought you should have realized was a bad idea) you're relying on your seemingly incapacitated brother to run errands for you, you're posting "help" messages in "Ask a Master" because "Masters have a protective streak"...

Can you really not see what is wrong with this picture?

Never underestimate the power of denial.

~stef




GreedyTop -> RE: Is It Time to Seek a Restraining Order? (6/22/2008 10:41:52 AM)

good luck, Win.. LMAO!!




camille65 -> RE: Is It Time to Seek a Restraining Order? (6/22/2008 10:50:46 AM)

No matter how many people say it, no matter how it is said... she will not believe it.
That leads me to two questions.
Is she actually incapable of understanding?
Or is it such deep denial that she truly cannot see?


I will never know the answers and no, I am not losing sleep over it. I do wonder however, every time I see the posts scroll by.
Just what is inside her head??




GreedyTop -> RE: Is It Time to Seek a Restraining Order? (6/22/2008 11:11:23 AM)

all the world's a stage...
(and we are merely her audience)




kc692 -> RE: Is It Time to Seek a Restraining Order? (6/22/2008 11:28:51 AM)

EDITED TO ADD>>>THIS IS TO THE OP:

Ahhhhh, my entertainment for the day.....ok let me take a stab at the biggest part (although I'm sure you are meticulous and have already got me under ignore under this nick too,).  You have online checking. You want to know about missing checks. Look online and see the amounts, and sweat what they are for after.  As a lawyer, surely you can balance the amount left after you get what the amounts of the checks were, no matter what they were written for.

My home is my home.  If I tell you not to bring redheads to my home, I would expect and appreciate that you not. The fact that you would, (rather than if I am right or wrong) would suggest you were trying to be incendiary.  I would also extend you the same rapport if you told me you didnt want me to wear blue in your home.  It is a sign of courtesy to respect anothers wishes while in their home.  Like others, if I was the black gay gent, I would be mortified that you supposedly being my friend, would put me in that situation to be uncomfortable for you to try to make a point.

The fact that you have explained to her how to get a new email address amazes me.  Surely if your brother had a problem with her sharing an account, HE could open up another one? So, apparently, yet again, it is not him with the problem it is you. Hard to imagine, isnt it? If he is incompetent to make desicions about his wife, no memory and cant drive, how bad is it that you are trying to force him to help you? Sounds like he has his hands full, with his own problems, but lets go and add yours on...after all, it is ALWAYS about you, right?

You say you are a lawyer, but yet you dont feel comfortable handling this.  You dont know any other attorneys in your day to day walk of life, or have met a decent one (besides yourself of course) that you would trust, or you would rather have suggestions from us? Or have the attorneys written you off already?

IF you have not hidden me yet, I imagine you will, so this is my first and last post in your latest reincarnation(well, unless I make a jokie with another poster at times).  It will never be to offer you suggestions, you dont want them, you dont need them, after all, you never listen to them do you?

( I stand corrected, you did get rid of the pepto bismol shade and made your font smaller,,,,,,kudos!!!!!!!)




xxblushesxx -> RE: Is It Time to Seek a Restraining Order? (6/22/2008 11:39:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kc692

My home is my home.  If I tell you not to bring redheads to my home, I would expect and appreciate that you not.


HEY!!!!     [sm=hardlimit.gif]     [sm=ignore.gif]




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Is It Time to Seek a Restraining Order? (6/22/2008 11:48:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

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ORIGINAL: kc692

My home is my home.  If I tell you not to bring redheads to my home, I would expect and appreciate that you not.


HEY!!!!     [sm=hardlimit.gif]     [sm=ignore.gif]


What she said!




camille65 -> RE: Is It Time to Seek a Restraining Order? (6/22/2008 12:00:15 PM)

Yay I'm a brunette!
Hope I get there in time for dinner kc [:D]




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Is It Time to Seek a Restraining Order? (6/22/2008 12:41:05 PM)

Chère personne rose, J'apprécierais considérablement une réponse. Avec respect, Séduisant




xxblushesxx -> RE: Is It Time to Seek a Restraining Order? (6/22/2008 2:11:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

Chère personne rose, J'apprécierais considérablement une réponse. Avec respect, Séduisant


Yeah, what she said...*lol*

It's been quite some time; Dear Rose person, I would very much appreciate a response (to my question- although this part isn't in here-). With Respect, something something...*lol*




Termyn8or -> RE: Is It Time to Seek a Restraining Order? (6/22/2008 2:15:13 PM)

It took me 47 years to get all the drama out of my life and at this point I wonder why I even bothered to read this thread.

Giving out checkbooks ? I'll take one. If you know someone who needs money, you write a check and give them the check, not the whole book !

And this interpersonal drama is disgusting really. A couple of nasty emails and you are talking restraining order ? That is ridiculous.

First of all I know what it is like to deal with religious types, it is no fun, but he picked her. You have your choice to deal with it or not. I suggest not. First of all you can't deal with it because those people are not under your control. Second of all, all you do is wrack (or should I say wreck) your brain trying.

Grow up and get out of the picture. Tell him to call when he can find the time. Close the account. And I mean that figuratively as well, close the account. Make it so your phone is the next one to ring.

He has made his choice, and if he should perish because of it, so be it. You are not your brother's keeper. I think it unlikely she is administering him drugs against his will, and if someone you recently were willing to give a checkbook to can no longer comprehend a full sentence, it is likely that you won't have to close that account. It might be his choice to get high, and there is a good probablity that it is already overdrawn.

I would like to know the whole story, but then again maybe I wouldn't. We got one side, and it is full of holes. First of all he is married and he needs your checkbook ? It doesn't add up. If she is the religious type, no matter what else I may think of people like that, it is unlikely that she is drinking alot or doing drugs, sapping the money. So unless she is tything to the church, you probably have no real beef with her.

And why did you imply that you moved ?

T




Aileen1968 -> RE: Is It Time to Seek a Restraining Order? (6/22/2008 2:26:05 PM)

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edited to say...this was not directed to termy.  It was directed to Mrs. Plum, in the library, with a candlestick.




sasseeNshy -> RE: Is It Time to Seek a Restraining Order? (6/22/2008 2:27:36 PM)

Having worked in the legal field for some odd 32 years, I'm surprised that as a "lawyer" you would even question whether to get a "restraining order".  The only thing that piece of paper provides comfort to...........is well no one.  Totally worthless expense of time and the Court system.  I can see why you are broke.




kc692 -> RE: Is It Time to Seek a Restraining Order? (6/22/2008 4:17:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

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ORIGINAL: kc692

My home is my home.  If I tell you not to bring redheads to my home, I would expect and appreciate that you not.


HEY!!!!     [sm=hardlimit.gif]     [sm=ignore.gif]


I sowwy, that was just an example, lol...my son is redheaded and just left from coming to my home to see dear old mom, lol...I also like the color blue...I was just trying to make a point (that I doubt I made) I love redheads personally, and yours is a gorgeous shade at that!!!![sm=cute.gif]

edited to add: I tried to pick something that obviously would NOT be a reason for someone to make a rule against, but yet had the right sowwy!!




kc692 -> RE: Is It Time to Seek a Restraining Order? (6/22/2008 4:20:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: camille65

Yay I'm a brunette!
Hope I get there in time for dinner kc [:D]



I gots lots to eat!!!!ooooooo, dont know if that came out right, lol!!!![;)]




xxblushesxx -> RE: Is It Time to Seek a Restraining Order? (6/22/2008 4:35:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kc692

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

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ORIGINAL: kc692

My home is my home.  If I tell you not to bring redheads to my home, I would expect and appreciate that you not.


HEY!!!!     [sm=hardlimit.gif]     [sm=ignore.gif]


I sowwy, that was just an example, lol...my son is redheaded and just left from coming to my home to see dear old mom, lol...I also like the color blue...I was just trying to make a point (that I doubt I made) I love redheads personally, and yours is a gorgeous shade at that!!!![sm=cute.gif]

edited to add: I tried to pick something that obviously would NOT be a reason for someone to make a rule against, but yet had the right sowwy!!


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