stella41b -> RE: Do you trust the government to tell you everything? really and why? (6/23/2008 8:18:28 AM)
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ORIGINAL: MzMia I was born in the 60's. Even though I was too young to be a part of it, I have always respected that era/decade immensely, especially here in the USA, People marched, people protested, people changed things in the 1960's. I'm three weeks younger than Medicare and was born when Tommy James and the Shondells topped the Billboard chart with 'Hanky Panky' and Georgie Fame and the Blueflames topped the charts in the UK with 'Getaway'. This was to me the best decade of the 20th century for numerous reasons - the Beatles, the Mamas and Papas, Martin Luther King, Hendrix, Woodstock, flower power and the Magic Roundabout to name but a few. It was a period when people came together, and to me MLK shines just as brightly in the 1960's as Pope John Paul II did in Europe in the 1980's. Black people in the South became humans while Berry Gordy in Detroit brought us Motown. But not everything changed .. the ideological struggle of left and right which had motivated the Second World War deepened and this provoked the protests. Not just in the USA. The 1960's also brought the UK a specific problem - Ulster, the IRA and terrorism. quote:
ORIGINAL: MzMia I have never totally trusted the government to tell me everything, and fully expect what I hear to be a "watered down version of the truth" at best. The only people I feel you can totally trust are poets and children. People you should never ever totally trust are playwrights, actors, lawyers, journalists and politicians. quote:
ORIGINAL: MzMia I knew we were in a recession last year, and I feel we are headed to a depression. It amazes me that people tell me it is not true, because..........."The government has not announced it!". I don't believe that this is 'just' a recession. This is more a depression, a time of social upheaval and struggle caused by the prolonged death of Reaganomics and Thatcherism which - just like the death of communism and Sozialrealpolitik in Eastern Europe throughout the 1970's and 1980's is creating social division, poverty, and totalitarianism. The 1980's was another brilliant decade for music but when you look back now you will see that the changes in society had very different effects to those in the 1960's. We were sold the illusion that making money somehow was the only measure of success and we were conditioned to be competitive. Failure and weakness was, and still is by many people, looked down upon. The problem is that being competitive means those who are bigger and stronger win and those who aren't lose. Even today people are still judged in terms of how profitable they are to the rest of society. Communities were destroyed, not just through competitiveness but through technological advances and the Internet. It doesn't surprise me that people are saying that 'it's not true' when talking about recession - the people were never really among the winners - and defeat I guess is hard to accept. We can no longer march and protest like we did in the 1960's because the Establishment knows that most people cannot afford to risk losing what they have and just in case they do terrorism is being used as an excuse to introduce emergency powers very much like General Jaruszelski did in Poland in 1981. quote:
ORIGINAL: MzMia I never realized how many of the masses really believe only what the "man" and the "government" tells them. Do you really believe everything the "man" and the "government" tells you?? If you do, please tell me why? **Power to the people** I am really a child of the 60s. PEACE I don't trust any politician or civil servant until they have proven consistently through their decisions and actions that they serve the people who elect them into office. I'm currently developing a project involving the homeless and another involving the black community here in London and have been dealing with politicians and local government officials for some time. Let's just say I trust corporate businessmen, organized criminals a shade more than I trust politicians and civil servants. The only three politicians I'm inclined to trust are Fidel Castro, Colonel Muammar Gaddafi and Nelson Mandela. The rest? I'll believe it when it happens. I make a habit of not trusting people who have hidden agendas. “Grow your tree of falsehood from a small grain of truth. Do not follow those who lie in contempt of reality. Let your lie be even more logical than the truth itself, so the weary travelers may find repose.” Czeslaw Milosz.
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