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came4U -> RE: Giving your slave to, or being given to others (6/26/2008 9:09:44 AM)

you are correct MsValentine.

I stated an answer 'in my opinion' on the subject at hand.

Any attempt to evoke me to get personal and recite my private affairs (what happened, who, where, when) will not work.  I made the statement, and it is all I want to say on the entire matter. 




MadRabbit -> RE: Giving your slave to, or being given to others (6/26/2008 9:21:58 AM)

I just wonder how "destructive" and "unhealthy" this activity would be if women weren't raised in a society that taught them to feel guilt and shame over fucking a guy she hasn't married (or at least had three dates with).

Because....I assure you....that the times I, as a male, have had sex with multiple female partners, there was nothing "destructive" or "unhealthy" about it.

I wonder if this activity would be equally as "unhealthy" and "destructive" if it was a male slave being given to multiple females.

Maybe it's all perspective and the result of a lack of instilled pride over how much cock a girl can take at one time like the pride a male feels over how much pussy he fucked at once.




MissSepphora1 -> RE: Giving your slave to, or being given to others (6/26/2008 9:47:59 AM)

I don't believe it's about how proud a woman is about taking cock or not.
I personally do not want to get an STD, and I know FOR A FACT BECAUSE IT HAS HAPPENED TO ME that condoms break.
And before all you slaves go and try to say, "my Master only gives me to those he knows," that's bs and we all know it, so don't try to go that route.
A play partner yesterday asked if I wanted to watch him suck cock.  For a moment it was very arousing, but then I realized as soon as I saw it, I'd be wondering if I'd ever be as open with him as I normally am.
But that's just me.  You all continue in oblivion, and that's why the cycle of STDs continue.




MissSepphora1 -> RE: Giving your slave to, or being given to others (6/26/2008 9:49:51 AM)

PS... why am I always the voice of reason?




camille65 -> RE: Giving your slave to, or being given to others (6/26/2008 9:53:27 AM)

Being given or shared is something that I want to remain only in fantasy-land. For me it is great fantasy fodder but I am pretty sure that I wouldn't enjoy it happening in reality.
Just thinking about it in the aspect of reality brings up negative emotions inside of me and thankfully my owner and I are a good match because it isn't something he is into either.

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ORIGINAL: slaveluci

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ORIGINAL: softness

with respect ... and to not to let this thread get re-railed ... calmy go back and read the other thread, objectively and not looking for things to get defensive about

you will see this is not actually the case

we dont guarantee balance on this forum, we dont guarantee anything .. she asked .. she got .. we all have to deal with the potential backlash of bringin somthing personal to the boardsand not hearing what we wanted to.


You're responding rationally to someone who completely derailed a thread I recently started about "cheating."  She posted again and again and refused to reason or accept that there could be a different, valid viewpoint.  Not exactly someone who impressed me with balance and understanding, softness.............luci


It was a shame how that thread ended up. I had been enjoying it, the differing views and thoughts that were being shared up to a certain point when it turned.
A year ago I would have been hurt and angry, now I can read that kind of stuff directed at me and chuckle. The only negative feelings are for the person so unable to see another view, I pity people like that. I can't understand living in such a small box and being unwilling (unable? uninterested?) to even entertain the notion that there are other ways to think.




softness -> RE: Giving your slave to, or being given to others (6/26/2008 9:53:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

*picturing softness on a leash, heeling to DV...*

ok,I think I just puddled.....



me too!




softness -> RE: Giving your slave to, or being given to others (6/26/2008 9:57:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

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ORIGINAL: SirDominic
My promise to her from the beginning was that everything I did, I did to build her up, not tear her down. THAT is what it is to be owned.


Interesting exchange.  It is obvious, as we've seen on these boards so many times, that being owned means very different things to different people. 

But I wanted to comment on the sentence I bolded.  Maybe for some, being a piece of meat does build them up.  Sometimes for me, that is exactly what I need, and that is how my Master will look at me and treat me.  And I'm soaring when he does, never happier.  But I'm many things - like many, I am a complex being.  I am not only a piece of meat.  I am not only valuable goods.  I am not only a sweet little girl curled up at his feet.  I am all of that and more.  That's what builds me up - that he feeds my multiple personalities in the way he treats me. 



can we just start co-signing your posts? ... because you always say just was I was about to ... only with fewer typos!




camille65 -> RE: Giving your slave to, or being given to others (6/26/2008 10:00:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

I don't believe it's about how proud a woman is about taking cock or not.
I personally do not want to get an STD, and I know FOR A FACT BECAUSE IT HAS HAPPENED TO ME that condoms break.
And before all you slaves go and try to say, "my Master only gives me to those he knows," that's bs and we all know it, so don't try to go that route.
A play partner yesterday asked if I wanted to watch him suck cock.  For a moment it was very arousing, but then I realized as soon as I saw it, I'd be wondering if I'd ever be as open with him as I normally am.
But that's just me.  You all continue in oblivion, and that's why the cycle of STDs continue.

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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

PS... why am I always the voice of reason?




I don't consider your post 'the voice of reason' in any way, shape or form.
Instead of it being the voice of reason I see it as your personal opinion attached to an inability to understand that others don't feel the same way.

There is someone I know in real life who has been in gangbang scenes.
In all of them except 2, toys and various implements were used in lieu of cocks. In those other 2 condoms were used and yes believe it or not they were well known to the womans owner. It really does happen, there really are doms and masters who actually know the men they involve their s-types with.




MissSepphora1 -> RE: Giving your slave to, or being given to others (6/26/2008 10:06:22 AM)

How well can one know someone?  Did they ask for doctor's records?  Blood tests?

And with toys involved they aren't "taking cock".  Very different dynamic.




BitaTruble -> RE: Giving your slave to, or being given to others (6/26/2008 10:34:45 AM)

~FR~

I think that many folks (Himself is one of them) consider certain body parts sacred, off limits or reserved for personal use. With the exception of my heart, I just don't feel that way. I've been sent to clean houses, help move, edit, set up websites etc., but Himself just won't send me out to use certain body parts that he feels are reserved for him alone.

I certainly respect his right to feel that way and, of course, comply with his requirements but I don't see the difference between using my pussy to fuck people and using my hands to wash their dishes.

I wear rubber gloves when I wash dishes and any partner will wear rubbers for whatever as well. Sure, there's a risk that a condom will break. There's a risk I'll drop a plate and cut myself, too, but the odds are more in favor of that not happening. In my 48 years on this ball of dirt, I've never, once, had a condom break on me, but I have broken plates, stabbed myself with knifes and burned my hand while cooking. As with most things, the cost to benefit gain can be assessed to see if it's a risk worth taking. For me, there's no chance that I would be broken, bent or otherwise damaged because sex just isn't that big a deal to me. It is a big deal to Himself, however, and I'm okay with that even if I don't quite understand the 'why' of it.





MadRabbit -> RE: Giving your slave to, or being given to others (6/26/2008 11:21:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

I don't believe it's about how proud a woman is about taking cock or not.
I personally do not want to get an STD, and I know FOR A FACT BECAUSE IT HAS HAPPENED TO ME that condoms break.
And before all you slaves go and try to say, "my Master only gives me to those he knows," that's bs and we all know it, so don't try to go that route.
A play partner yesterday asked if I wanted to watch him suck cock.  For a moment it was very arousing, but then I realized as soon as I saw it, I'd be wondering if I'd ever be as open with him as I normally am.
But that's just me.  You all continue in oblivion, and that's why the cycle of STDs continue.


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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

PS... why am I always the voice of reason?


I don't think you are at all. In fact, I think it's pretty unreasonable, not heavily grounded in reality and based off another kind of fear....fear of STDs.

Nor is it applicable to my post since many people have posted that it's emotionally destructive to them with or without some risk factor of an STD.




TwoNYCDommes -> RE: Giving your slave to, or being given to others (6/26/2008 2:07:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit
I just wonder how "destructive" and "unhealthy" this activity would be if women weren't raised in a society that taught them to feel guilt and shame over fucking a guy she hasn't married (or at least had three dates with).
Because....I assure you....that the times I, as a male, have had sex with multiple female partners, there was nothing "destructive" or "unhealthy" about it.

Society apparently failed to teach me that.  I, as a female, have had sex with multiple partners, there was nothing "destructive" or "unhealthy" about it either.

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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit
I wonder if this activity would be equally as "unhealthy" and "destructive" if it was a male slave being given to multiple females.

By some, I'm sure.  Many--though certainly not all--of the negative responses on this topic seemed to be coming from people who would oppose any type of non-monogamous activity.




blmtrsne -> RE: Giving your slave to, or being given to others (6/26/2008 2:52:14 PM)

As our relation is based on servitude, I never lent my slave out for a scene, orgy, gang bang... But I did lent him out for a few days to a sick girlfriend: he had to obey doing her shopping, cooking, cleaning.

For those interested: on www.owk.cz there's a service to make your slave on call available to Mistresses. Slaves can also add themselves to rthe list (membership required)

blmtrsne




truesub4u -> RE: Giving your slave to, or being given to others (6/26/2008 3:01:31 PM)

Having been on both sides of the fence, being with one who refused to share me and with another who had shared me with muliple players in a single night. I enjoyed both and never once had problems with my owners. As much as I enjoyed both sides. I have to admit my owner now, knows I get even more worked up over the aspects that he could share me with who he damn well pleases to. Though from the get go he told me I was off limits to anyone other than himself. He knows I have been there.....and would go there again... for him. Do I think he ever would? Probably not, but his threats of doing it are a fabulous mind fuck for me. And he loves that.  And untill you experience something of the sort, with one other, 2 others or even more others involved, one really doesn't know how they'll respond to it.  It works for some.... not for others. And those that assume it's destructive from the get go for "Everyone" ...... well we all know how that goes.  So best to just deal with ones self and theirs. And let "Everyone" else find out for themselves.




Knight0Errant -> RE: Giving your slave to, or being given to others (6/26/2008 3:04:12 PM)

Great thread! Way too many great comments for me to respond to them all in detail. So. I'll explain. No. Wait. There is too much. I'll sum up.

I see BDSM as a buffet. Try what looks inviting and don't be afraid to try a bit of this and a bit of that. Get more if you discover something you like. But it is up to you what you put on your plate. Just do everyone a favor and don't be rude to the person(s) who likes the steamed carrots just because you don't like them. Ok? Thanks.

Lending slaves sexually, lending slaves non-sexually, face slapping, gangbangs, caning, scat, bondage, watersports, etc, etc, ad infinitum, are just different items on the buffet. For any item on the buffet, some will like and some won't. Some might want to try 'this' and find that they really like 'it', others may want to try 'that' and end up not liking 'that'. As others noted, good communication is the key when trying anything.

It helps, IMHO, for all involved in any situation to realize that any negative feelings that come up from trying something are A) owned solely by the person feeling them, and that, B) those feelings are an valuable opportunity to learn and grow as a person. Hopefully with caring support from the other(s) involved.

Thanks for tuning in. Stay tuned to next week's exciting post. ;)




Knight0Errant -> RE: Giving your slave to, or being given to others (6/26/2008 3:11:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TwoNYCDommes

By some, I'm sure. Many--though certainly not all--of the negative responses on this topic seemed to be coming from people who would oppose any type of non-monogamous activity.


I notice that too. I think of them as the MES (monogamy enforcer squad). *shrugs*




ownedgirlie -> RE: Giving your slave to, or being given to others (6/26/2008 8:24:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: softness
can we just start co-signing your posts? ... because you always say just was I was about to ... only with fewer typos!


LOL should we be owned-softness, or soft-girlie?  [:D]




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