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A Question for African American s-types - 6/25/2008 1:43:33 AM

pinksugarsub

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I see many profiles by African-American Doms in which They state They seek only white s-types.

Just as aside, I'm not interested in any Dom who used my race, in full or in part, to select me for an first contact.

I wondered how African-American s-types felt about being rejected -- or selected -- in whole or in part on their race. When you see a nick like 'BlkMaster4whiteslave' (which i hope isn't any member's real nick) do you harbor any resentment? Not care? Beyond caring?

I also wondered if this phenom s limited to Doms, or if Dommes do it as well.

I wonder if any African-American s-types seek only white Doms?

I wonder if African-American s-types also encounter white Doms who will only consider an African-American s-type? If so, do you share my reaction to being selected by a Dom based in whole or in part on your race?

I know some members feel that a 'kink' or 'fetish' for interracial dating is just as valid as any other 'kink' or fetish'.

The question of the Op is 'how do African-American s-types feel about African-American Doms who will only consider white s-types'.

Yes, I do know each s-type is a separate person, with their own feelings. The Op doesn't seek to a 'universally-held opinion' from any group.

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RE: A Question for African American s-types - 6/25/2008 1:44:56 AM

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Why let yourself be crippled by a fear of racism-when it may simply be a personal prefference?

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RE: A Question for African American s-types - 6/25/2008 2:42:52 AM

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Wow; You're up late, Leatherist.

Just as an FYI, in proofing a post, I am unable to find any function that allows me to view the first draft without hitting 'okay to post', so sometimes people 'see' my posts before I'm finished editing. (Yes, i know there's a 'preview' function -- it just doesn't work well for me.)

My reaction to African-American Doms who state in Their profiles They will only consider a white s-type doesn't 'turn me off' because I am 'crippled by a fear of racism'.

Instead, it 'turns me off' because I feel I haven't been judged worthy of contact based on who I am, but instead, (at least in part) on flawed notions about the conduct of white s-types in general.

I have replied to some African_American Doms who use race as a critieria for selecting an s-type and asked Them why They do so.

The feedback I've gotten is that They have certain fixed beliefs about white s-types in general. I realise that feedback like this isn't a 'survey of all African-American Doms who seek only white slaves'.

I have no 'kink' or 'fetish' for interracial dating and would probably not be interested in a Dom who did.

There are other Dom 'kinks' or 'fetishes' that leave me disinterested as well. i'm not maso, so a Dom's 'kink' or 'fetish' for s & m has the same effect on me.

The Op questions what different POVs African-American s-types and others might have on the matter.

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RE: A Question for African American s-types - 6/25/2008 3:13:24 AM

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I only date white guys. Sometimes Hispanic or Asian but mainly white. It's not a fetish or a kink, it's just a personal preference. Just like some people don't like to date fat people, some women don't date short guys, some guys prefer young women.

Everyone has their preference, as long as it's just a preference and not out and out racism (ie, not even having friends of a certain race) I don't see a big deal.

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RE: A Question for African American s-types - 6/25/2008 4:28:07 AM

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I'm offended by someone who wants to serve me ONLY because of my race. I'm also offended by someone who wants to serve me ONLY because I'm female, a scientist or wear glasses. I'm more than just a single (or even a collectiom) of objective things they want to interact with.

That being said, I know that race play and the taboo behind it is just totally hot for some people.

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RE: A Question for African American s-types - 6/25/2008 4:40:14 AM

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There are loads of threads covering this subject...i would suggest a search...

As for me, i don't get offended by anyone's kink or preference. i am an equal oppurtunity slut myself, as far as race is concerned....but i have an IQ bias.*guilt*

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RE: A Question for African American s-types - 6/25/2008 4:40:40 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: pinksugarsub

I have replied to some African_American Doms who use race as a critieria for selecting an s-type and asked Them why They do so.

Why do some people like blonds? some people like big boobs, some wouldnt dream of being with a man shorter than them, most first contacts are based on physical attraction (far more likely to get messages if you have a photo). I think maybe its a bit odd that some people are honest about what they are attracted to? or maybe its purely pc attitude to race because I have seen many Dom profiles asking for certain physical traits and dont bat an eyelid

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RE: A Question for African American s-types - 6/25/2008 4:54:20 AM

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The question of the Op is 'how do African-American s-types feel about African-American Doms who will only consider white s-types'.

Why does it matter?

If it is a healthy relationship that benefits all participants, why should we question the rest?

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RE: A Question for African American s-types - 6/25/2008 6:15:28 AM

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Color of skin is not always about a fetish. At one point I didn't like white skin, I could see the veins under the surface and it just wasn't attractive to me. I dated men with darker skin tones because they were more asthetically pleasing.

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RE: A Question for African American s-types - 6/25/2008 6:21:26 AM

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I am not an "s-type", but Imma answer anyway... Is stating a racial preference any different than stating a sexual one? Gender? Location? Skillset?

Regardless of the Dom/me's race, it is simply a preference for how they want to participate in this lifestyle.

Some people DO engage in that taboo we refer to as "race play" for any number of reasons. There ARE people who get off on the kink, There are many who don't. It is what it is. Some may be curious becasue in their circle they have not met anyone of a different background. Some may have other motivations (building a deviant United Nations full of submissive of all nationalities perhaps???)

There are millions of reasons why a person decides what they decide. If they (both the Dom/me and the sub/slave) are happy with their choices and have a good relationship, then it benefits us all from yet another contribution to the collective the diversity of experiences.

At the end of the day, what someone else wants (i.e. a white submissive) should be of no consequence to you because their preferences to do not impact your life, your views, yours needs, your desires or your activities. They just aren't the Dom/me for you...

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RE: A Question for African American s-types - 6/25/2008 6:24:48 AM

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it doesn't offend me in the least to know that there are Dominant black men who would only wish to have a white slave. i do not feel like they are rejecting me personally, odds are such a person would not be my type ya know? lol. there are many reasons why people have racial preferences, sometimes it's a fetish, sometimes it's an aesthetic preference, and you are correct pink in that sometimes it is indeed about (false) stereotypes/preconceptions that person has of that race. people who believe in stereotypes are ignorant by definition in my book, so it seems like a plus imo to be able to avoid those types altogether.

and yes there are many black submissives and slaves who will only serve white Dominants, that is quite common. for the same reasons...some good, some negative, some neutral. before i was owned, i would picture my future Master as a white man. but i was not rejecting my own or any other race...it was just that at the time, no other possibility had honestly occured to me. i was a newbie and when i thought of slavery, an image just popped into my head of my being at the feet of a white man, you know, the stereotypical Master/slave. i had never envisioned a black man as a Master. very much ignorance on my part. as it turned out, i fell head over heels for a wonderful black Master, and am sooooo grateful that he caught me before i ran off to be owned by someone who wasn't right for me, simply because they fit my stereotypical image.

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RE: A Question for African American s-types - 6/25/2008 7:12:15 AM

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slightly off topic - I came to the US at age 21 - and the first person i saw in the US was a black man, wearig a hand gun. I didn't know what to look at first - my first real live black person, or my first real live gun!

Talk about wide eyed!

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RE: A Question for African American s-types - 6/25/2008 7:14:12 AM

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Ok - i know why i thought of that. It smells to me of objectification that the dom would require a certain colour of skin.
Of course, so does requiring a certain weight or hair colour or length.

Just saying.

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RE: A Question for African American s-types - 6/25/2008 7:36:54 AM

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i'm obviously not african american but i can tell you this:

perhaps you need to look at this from an 'objective' stand-point rather than a 'defensive' stand-point...

different races are in fact a sub-culture of different cultures, upbringing, belief systems, etc...

to want to think or live outside of a particular box other than what we are raised in or raised to believe, is no different than choosing to live in a bdsm context over a vanilla context, preferring a red-head over a blonde, or preferring a man to a woman, etc...

besides, some people feel it's just hot as hell having the mix of two skin colors next to each other; hell, i know i do! the man i'm seeing gets almost black during the summer due to his surfing and time in the sun because he's part cherokee, and my white irish ass never tans...

when our bodies are entwined, i get hot as hell just seeing/feeling my glow in the dark white body wrapped in his dark and yummy skin!

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RE: A Question for African American s-types - 6/25/2008 9:23:09 AM

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Why shouldn't people be more attracted to one person over another. I prefer tall men, guys under 6' just don't do it for me. That doesn't mean I'm advocating short men shouldn't be treated fairly in getting jobs, or renting apartments. Just that I won't feel the chemistry I need with one.

And if a guy's top kink is playing "black slave r*pes white slave owner", then he'll need to be a black male with a white femsub to play it.

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RE: A Question for African American s-types - 6/25/2008 11:50:31 AM

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ORIGINAL: pinksugarsub
I wondered how African-American s-types felt about being rejected -- or selected -- in whole or in part on their race. When you see a nick like 'BlkMaster4whiteslave' (which i hope isn't any member's real nick) do you harbor any resentment? Not care? Beyond caring?

I've never been (as far as I know) rejected or selected because of my race. I've tried to always stay away from people like that. Personally I think race based relationships are gross and highly unappealing - when I was single I did have dominants approach me because of my race and best summed up.. it was just an icky vibe. I was attracted to my owner because of who he is, not because he's white and similarly he's attracted to me because of who I am. There have been adjustments both of us have made because of different cultural norms, but nothing huge.

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I wonder if African-American s-types also encounter white Doms who will only consider an African-American s-type? If so, do you share my reaction to being selected by a Dom based in whole or in part on your race?

I've encountered white doms who are very interested in or seem to have a particular interest in black female submissives.... just gross (to me).

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RE: A Question for African American s-types - 6/25/2008 12:05:28 PM

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I'm mixed (mexican & black) and it doesn't offend me if a black Dom wants a white sub.....they make pretty babies :D

I use to date mostly white guys....not any preference.....it was because I lived in the middle of hicktown, usa :) and still do!

But my current Dom of interest is mixed.........half white, half black..........i like white guys.....but right now I like him more :)

People are people......men are men......women are women.....

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RE: A Question for African American s-types - 6/25/2008 5:04:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp

There are loads of threads covering this subject...i would suggest a search...

As for me, i don't get offended by anyone's kink or preference. i am an equal oppurtunity slut myself, as far as race is concerned....but i have an IQ bias.*guilt*

So how many points would I have to drop my IQ by to become attractive to you, tuls?

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RE: A Question for African American s-types - 6/25/2008 8:21:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: SirKaton
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Some may have other motivations (building a deviant United Nations full of submissive of all nationalities perhaps???)
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hey i like that idea... LOL do we all get flags and a desk with a mic and earphones?

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RE: A Question for African American s-types - 6/25/2008 9:17:41 PM

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ooh ooh i want a mic!!!.......

yeah that's all i need...something to make me louder

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