jlf1961
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Joined: 6/10/2008 From: Somewhere Texas Status: offline
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Under Your hypotheticals the South African Government while maintaining aparthied somehow allows blacks to have guns in which to overthrow aparthied...Then we have Tianaman Square where You would have us picture the young man staring down the tank with what ...a bazooka...would the world have been so moved if he had one...Personally the courage demonstrated by the one young man in that quintsential photograph, is Tianaman Square...put a gun in his hands and the message isn't as moving or telling ... The courage demonstrated was indeed a stirring moment in history. However, what became of that moment? Did anything change? How about another example. When the Soviet army rolled into Afghanistan, the rebels that fought against them initially were using Martini Henry rifles and .303 enfields that were British Issue to the Indian Army. The .303's were bolt action, and the Martini Henry's were single shot rifles. Yet with weapons that had been obsolete since the first world war, these people fought against one of the most mechanized military forces in the world. Are you saying that these men and boys attacking armoured convoys with these types of weapons did not make a statement? What was the result? The Soviet Union was forced to withdraw. There was the Czech resistance to the Soviet invasion, which failed, but still, young men and women standing up to tanks with little more than hunting rifles and malatov cocktails also makes a statement. Yes, the young man was couragous, however, if his act of defiance had spurred a general armed uprising against the communist regime, it is doubtful that China would still be communist. Do you remember what the British were marching toward Lexington and Concord to do? They had orders to seize every gun in the two towns. The privately owned weapons in Boston had already been seized. Lexington and Concord were the two towns everyone remembers, but there were others, in all the colonies, the british were ordered to seize weapons. The fact that those poorly trained militiamen stood fast against the best military force in the western world at the time is one of the greatest moments in American and World history. It did not happen because those weapons were owned by the state, it happened because those weapons were owned by individuals. The weapons that won the war of independence were brown bess muskets, kentucky long rifles, blue ridge rifles, Green mountain rifles and other locally manufactored rifles. Every man that answered the call was pouring lead to make his own rounds because few of the weapons fired the same calibre. The only thing in common was flint and powder.
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Boy, it sure would be nice if we had some grenades, don't you think? You cannot control who comes into your life, but you can control which airlock you throw them out of. Paranoid Paramilitary Gun Loving Conspiracy Theorist AND EQUAL OPPORTUNI
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