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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 10:08:01 AM   
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Liberals have always been supportive of peoples' rights <snip>.



This word 'liberals' makes me scream with laughter... but tell me, do you mean that the other side, the 'conservative' side, doesn't support people's rights?


Kittin, "the other side?"
There's more than only two "sides."
I don't like Dems or Repubs.

Oh, Obama has another Hollywood supporter.
Director Rob Reiner!!!
LOL, he played "Meathead" on "All in the Family."
He's *almost* the male version of Barbara Streisand when it comes to socialist rants.
So he's a "director" now eh?
I wonder what he's directed lately?
Rob Reiner! lolol

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 10:13:00 AM   
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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 10:20:24 AM   
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Oh, Obama has another Hollywood supporter.
Director Rob Reiner!!!
LOL, he played "Meathead" on "All in the Family."
He's *almost* the male version of Barbara Streisand when it comes to socialist rants.
So he's a "director" now eh?
I wonder what he's directed lately?
Rob Reiner! lolol


Barbra Steisand isnt male? Isnt that a penis protruding from her face? You know that thing about a foot long that sticks out from under her eyes and above her mouth! Well Ill be damned, Streisand is a woman. I learned something today LOL

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 10:26:37 AM   
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Kittin, "the other side?"
There's more than only two "sides."
I don't like Dems or Repubs.



Finally, you are seeing the light. Remember that it is you is fond of labelling people 'liberals'. Indeed, there are more than two ways to look at the world: it would be wonderful if everyone reached a similar level of enlightenment.

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 10:28:01 AM   
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the irony



... of you posing under a tree?

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 10:40:58 AM   
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Oh, Obama has another Hollywood supporter.
Director Rob Reiner!!!

Not to mention that Al Gore has endorsed him...
 
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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 10:46:55 AM   
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It's a metaphor...

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the irony



... of you posing under a tree?


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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 10:47:45 AM   
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It's a metaphor...



Bingo.

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 10:53:44 AM   
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It's a metaphor...



Bingo.



       Don't be quite so proud of yourself, Kitten, while you've got one on the shoulder of your avatar...

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 11:01:47 AM   
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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 12:43:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		            I'd suggest starting with an 8 guage shotgun, and .44 magnum.  Excellent first-timer choices

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 12:54:33 PM   
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           I'd suggest starting with an 8 guage shotgun, and .44 magnum.  Excellent first-timer choices


LOL As much as I would love to see her firing one of those old time muzzleloading 8 gauge market guns, dont give her bad advice.

If she were to acquire any weapon under her "guest immigration status (she previously mentioned not being allowed to work because of her immigration status) she would be a felon subject to arrest, prosecution and deportation. The last thing we need is more guns in the hands of people who legally arent entitled to have them and who commit a felony by unlawfully obtaining them.

Thats what makes her rabid views on this topic so amusing, she couldnt legally have a gun in this country even if she wanted one! LOL

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 1:35:25 PM   
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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 1:42:45 PM   
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Wrong! My green card arrived last week :-) . Rejoice!


Yay!! Now you can get a job and stop wasting so much time with the droolers and diaper-fillers.

Also, you now have the right to have "rabid views" like the "conservatives" here.

Bob

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 1:46:05 PM   
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Wrong! My green card arrived last week :-) . Rejoice!


Yay!! Now you can get a job and stop wasting so much time with the droolers and diaper-fillers.

Bob


Yeah! Though to be fair to 'them' , it's been illuminating to spend time with them :-).

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 2:03:20 PM   
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I never said that the law of the land was overturned.  The 2nd Amendment is the law of the land.  Up until 2 days ago, the 2nd Amendment was interpreted by SCOTUS as granting a collective right, not an individual right.  I am not wrong in saying that - it is a fact.  When I posted to the other thread that this was not an individual right, that was the interpretation that we were operating under.  The 2nd Amendment is still the law of the land, but it's interpreted differently now. 



Then I suspect we are talking past each other... The USSC has not addressed the 2nd amendment directly in a long time, not even in Miller, leaving a void as to exactly what the 2nd did or didn't allow with certain well known exceptions, like felons,and federal regulation of machine guns, etc.

In my book that void means that there was no 'law of the land' i.e. codified/ruling that 'the people' meant 'the government of each state'. And from the comments made in the few cases that existed, there was nothing suggesting that there was no individual right under 'the people', in fact quite the opposite..
http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndsup.html


There were talking points from pro and anti gun advocates who claimed it meant certain things, but not what is commonly referred to as the law of the land.

What the USSC did in the recent ruling was to address some of the most common talking points, and state that they were false...had always been false...very specifically, that it had always been false to assume that 'the people' only conferred the right to bear arms to the states.

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The Supreme Court ruling does not create new problems for law enforcement.


I hope you're right, but I don't know that and neither do you.  We'll have to wait and see.


It doesn't create new problems in the same sense that Miranda, Mapp, or Mendenhall, or dashboard cameras etc. didn't create new problems. 
I didn't say people wouldn't bitch about it...

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 3:48:51 PM   
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Actually...he directed The Princess Bride and I really like that movie.
Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.

He also directed "This Is Spinal Tap", a brilliant parody, as well as "A Few Good Men", "Stand By Me", "The American President",  and "When Harry Met Sally".

Feeling foolish yet, Popeye? 

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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 4:10:20 PM   
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Perhaps I'll change my mind and I'll acquire one, or a few dozens, for real.

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I'd suggest starting with an 8 guage shotgun, and .44 magnum.  Excellent first-timer choices.

A .44 magnum as a "excellent first-timer" choice for a girl 5'-5" and 120 pounds soaking wet? I don't think so, unless she'll be shooting bear.
 
To kittinSol: I'd recommend a .45 ACP compact like this one...
 
http://www.kimberamerica.com/pistols/ultracarry/
 
If you decide to acquire dozens of them, keep me in mind. Heh.
 
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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 5:38:31 PM   
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RE: Supreme Court strikes down handgun ban - 6/28/2008 6:55:25 PM   
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Add to this that the cops have gone to court repeatedly arguing their duty was to the state rather than individual citizens.  It's settled law that they have NO duty to protect YOU.



Wasn't that one of the criticisms the west made of the USSR?


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