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fungasm -> A Compartimentalized Erotic Identity? (6/26/2008 1:09:05 PM)

Do you have one?

Do you even know what it is?

Someone I adore brought this up as a topic for me, and I thought it would be brilliant if I could figure out what it was.  The rest of the conversation didn't clear it up for me what it really is, but it brought out some cool vocab words like fantasies and ritual space.

Anyone ever use this term before?

Thanks!





BitaTruble -> RE: A Compartimentalized Erotic Identity? (6/26/2008 1:12:08 PM)

Not me. I just use the term label. May be boring and old-fashioned, but then, so am I. [;)]




MsKaraZ -> RE: A Compartimentalized Erotic Identity? (6/26/2008 1:30:43 PM)

I am no professor of the erotic, but I would guess that is would relate to being stimulated by a specific factor, whether it is feet, breasts, maybe a little denial, it would be something that was very specific (compartmented) in your deep erotic desires that maybe you are unwilling to even admit to yourself. Furthermore, you are drawn to others that may identify with this specific factor or maybe an opposite. In the end I think it is what you believe it to be in your own mind. I would say that I may fit into this, based on my own description.




candystripper -> RE: A Compartimentalized Erotic Identity? (6/26/2008 1:35:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

Not me. I just use the term label. May be boring and old-fashioned, but then, so am I. [;)]


Bita, you are anything but boring.
 
*hugs*
 
candystripper




variation30 -> RE: A Compartimentalized Erotic Identity? (6/26/2008 1:55:59 PM)

Do you have one?

No, because...

Do you even know what it is?

I don't even know what it is.




Leatherist -> RE: A Compartimentalized Erotic Identity? (6/26/2008 1:59:48 PM)

Compartmentalized usually refers to someone who tries to keep some facet of themselves seperated from the rest.
 
Maskes no sense to me-since I am not schitzophrenic.




RCdc -> RE: A Compartimentalized Erotic Identity? (6/26/2008 3:02:20 PM)

What is it?  It's a label.
Do I have one?  Yes - my name.
 
Above that - I don't compartimentalise my life.
 
the.dark.
 




DiurnalVampire -> RE: A Compartimentalized Erotic Identity? (6/26/2008 3:07:00 PM)

Angel is compartmentalized, Fox and I are not.
To each their own, whatever works for them. For Angel, he needs to be able to turn his on and off, becasue if it were constant it would take over and he wouldnt be able to function outside of the home. For Fox, it doesnt get in the way so theres no reason to have an "off" switch.

DV




faerytattoodgirl -> RE: A Compartimentalized Erotic Identity? (6/26/2008 3:08:17 PM)

no..the word is too long for me to pronounce.




crouchingtigress -> RE: A Compartimentalized Erotic Identity? (6/26/2008 3:47:51 PM)

Yum, one of my favorite conversations....

Sir and i often talk about "erotic authenticity", a word that he coined as he was exploring the reasons why he teaches and the choice of classes he creates. He trully believes that following your erotic voice is as important as following any of your dreams, and i agree. i think that in listening to what works for you gives you strenth and and tenacity to persue your other dreams.

Can you be living your erotic authenticity if you have a compartnmentalised identy? I believe yes you can, because what DV say each person does what is right for them.

And i would go as far as to say ok, if you are going to be in the closet, then celibrate it, as long as you know who you are, then it matters not what other people think about your sex life, and your lifestyle. *points to  sig line*....

I am not sure if i answered you question or just went off on my own tangent...but if you are asking the question what does the term mean, it means being in the closet in some or all of your sexuality....have i used the term before? yes, maybe not those words strung togeather, but the concept is one i have explore from both inside  and out side the closet.




MasterFireMaam -> RE: A Compartimentalized Erotic Identity? (6/26/2008 5:06:18 PM)

Perhaps I'm a little dense today, but I have no idea what you're truly asking. Are you asking if we separate our kink lives from our every day lives?

Master Fire




Drifa -> RE: A Compartimentalized Erotic Identity? (6/26/2008 5:21:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: fungasm
The rest of the conversation didn't clear it up for me what it really is, but it brought out some cool vocab words like fantasies and ritual space.


OK, let's start with ritual space or sacred space: an area which is conceptually sanctified or separated from the everyday world.
"Space" which is empty, uniform, and abstract, is given shape and life so it may become a ritual "place" such as a burial ground, courtroom, or cathedral. All of these are curiously vacant, even haunting, when the actions of ritual are not occurring in them. Ritual place is a matrix of ritual life. It is a generative center, though it may be geographically on the edges. A founded place is sequestered from the hubbub, even when it consists only of a circle formed by Welfare State musicians in an urban shopping center. A founded place is a forcefield eliciting gestures from ritual actors.

Ritualizing may occur without objects or implements but not without founded (fundus = "bottom," "fundamental") places. Ritual traditions differ in their views about the length of time such a place is pregnant with formative power. For some, the founding ends the moment the action ceases. For others, the place is set aside once-and-for-all by consecration (Ronald L. Grimes, Beginnings in Ritual Studies. New York: University Press of America. 1982. p. 66).

I would consider many scenes to be a ritual space.  Just like going into a church, there are a number of cues in a scene that tell you that you have left the everyday 9-to-5 world and are doing something special:
  • In a church, it may be the holy water, the lingering scent of candles or incense, the ritual activities, done a certain way, with expected responses.
  • In a court of law, it's the robes and elevated bench of the judge, the formalized ritual language, and again, the ritual activities, done a certain way, with expected responses.
  • In a scene, formal language such as modes of address, whether the sub is allowed eye contact, special clothing or the lack thereof start to establish the ritual space. Some people have dedicated dunegon areas. Others temporarily transform a room into such an area via lighting, music, candles.  And once the scene begins, we again encounter ritual activities and expected responses.
As for compartmentalized erotic identity, without more context I couldn't exactly explain it, but certainly my erotic identity is compartmentalized in many ways. I'm kinky, but that's not a part of me that gets expressed at work. I'm a lesbian, but in certain situations I may have erotic interchange with men.  I am submissive sexually but very aggressive and dominant in professional situations.





variation30 -> RE: A Compartimentalized Erotic Identity? (6/26/2008 5:27:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

no..the word is too long for me to pronounce.


though I am usually not averse to prolixity, no matter how platitudinous...I'm going to agree with you on this one.




petdave -> RE: A Compartimentalized Erotic Identity? (6/26/2008 5:45:43 PM)

i may well have one, but it's hard to say... the phrase is just mumbo-jumbo to me... 




crouchingtigress -> RE: A Compartimentalized Erotic Identity? (6/26/2008 5:55:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: variation30

quote:

ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

no..the word is too long for me to pronounce.


though I am usually not averse to prolixity, no matter how platitudinous...I'm going to agree with you on this one.



ok now that was just hot.......[sm=flameout.gif]




kdsub -> RE: A Compartimentalized Erotic Identity? (6/26/2008 6:10:33 PM)

I have no idea if I have it right but those words could be used to describe me.

I am very compartmentalized and have very separate identities.

In, for want of a better word, my real life I am anything but submissive. In fact I am dominant to the extreme, at least in my work and play. I have a most competitive nature.

BUT… there is a part of me… hidden from most… that is feminine and submissive. It is so at odds with my everyday self that I can’t be both at the same time. I MUST compartmentalize or I would go insane.

I am of course aware of both sides of me and it is not always easy to turn on and off on demand… but they must always stay separate.

Butch




MadRabbit -> RE: A Compartimentalized Erotic Identity? (6/26/2008 6:16:41 PM)

Sure, I have a compartmentalized erotic identity.

This facet only comes out in my intimate relationships and personal relationships with people who have established a degree of rapport with me.

This facet does not come out at all in a professional work environment during impersonal relationships with co-workers and superiors. In fact, in several cases, this facet doesn't even exist during the hours of 8-5 and I have somewhat created a superficial facet of myself to be able to socially survive in the workplace.

For example, a few weeks ago, one of the other butcher's recounted a tale of how he was searching for toilet paper in his girlfriend's parents house and found a cache of bondage magazines.

This sparked a conversation about kinky sex and how "sick" it was, a conversation I mostly just avoided. Eventually, however, I was included when I was standing next to my assistant manager and by proxy, he turned to me and stated "I don't understand how anyone can piss in someone's mouth and get off on it." He was obviously looking for me to contribute some kind of response.

Rather than be rude or tell the truth about my own water-sport experiences (which I obviously could not do), I gave him my false socially correct opinion of "I don't know, man. A lot of sick people out there..."

Ashamed of my fakeness and superficiality?

Not in the least...It's a pragmatic necessity of survival to keep that identity and facet of myself separate from my professional identities and facets.




crouchingtigress -> RE: A Compartimentalized Erotic Identity? (6/26/2008 6:21:49 PM)

wow rabbit, was there not another way then to say we are sick?




MadRabbit -> RE: A Compartimentalized Erotic Identity? (6/26/2008 6:27:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress

wow rabbit, was there not another way then to say we are sick?


I've thought about it, but nah, not really. Working in a butcher shop isn't exactly an open-minded and intelligent enviroment and being able to fit in depends on being "one of the guys". I already get enough shit as it is, because I don't spend 90% of my time talking about the ass and tits of the female customers. There is a lot of speculation that I might be...lol...."gay".

Regardless, it was meant to be more of an ironic joke on myself and I had a big smile on my face when I said it.




crouchingtigress -> RE: A Compartimentalized Erotic Identity? (6/26/2008 6:33:37 PM)

"nods" i hear ya....i worked in a deli once...




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