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MasterFireMaam -> RE: WTF is a "Master"? (7/1/2008 5:11:10 AM)

I get the sense that you already have a feel for what a Master is in our world and that you are asking more for what we think the characeteristic are of a good Master. I find this list to be the best list for me.
Qualities of a Master

Master Fire




MasterHermes -> RE: WTF is a "Master"? (7/1/2008 6:47:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

Qualities of a Master

Master Fire



FireMaam,

Its a good and interesting article. Thank your for sharing it.

Hermes




Constrictor1 -> RE: WTF is a "Master"? (7/1/2008 8:23:46 AM)

Hello Firebird!
I am first and foremost the "master" of myself and my life. Second I am "master" to my collared girl. Third I am "master to anyone else who has consented to accept my complete control over their life after I have proven myself worthy of earning the trust necessary to accept the responsibilty for my decisions in their life. I am not "master to anyone one else, I am just me.

Constrictor1




Firebirdseeking -> RE: WTF is a "Master"? (7/1/2008 10:10:18 AM)

I'd like to thank everyone for his or her time to add thoughts and feeling to my question and to this thread.  I appreciate the input very much.




MasterLark -> RE: WTF is a "Master"? (7/4/2008 12:25:26 PM)

you wrote that "I stated a simple belief that a Master - or a Mistress - should be about leading. And having values. If I am in the minority in this, so be it. I kinda figured that out."

Don't give a damn if you are in the minority here or not, the truth is you are correct. Absolutely correct -- it is about leading with values.




Duskwolf -> RE: WTF is a "Master"? (7/5/2008 1:28:31 AM)

*Fast reply*

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

You aren't a real master until you've been told you're a fake/wannabe at least five times.


lol.

So what happens when the person who calls you a fake later retracts it and resumes calling you "Master"??
Perhaps it's a ploy to encourage punishment. Hmm.

End of the day, I guess it's down to interpretation.
Also, ranting helps.

Although Personally, I think it's all about whoever has the bigger paddle in the relationship...
If you're wielding a Frypan like it's a ping-pong bat, you're the winner. :D




Aswad -> RE: WTF is a "Master"? (7/5/2008 5:27:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NumberSix

Those are masters, I think the rest are pasty assholes.


I resent that. It's summer, now, so I'm not pasty anymore. [:D]

Asshole, however, I shall have to plead guilty to. [sm=evil.gif]

Health,
al-Aswad.




Aswad -> RE: WTF is a "Master"? (7/5/2008 5:29:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Fire- don't you know that dismissing people's opinions based on orientation is the first and most obvious sign that you're just a fake?


Careful, LA, now he only has four more times to go before he's a Master! [:D]

Health,
al-Aswad.




EldroRolod -> RE: WTF is a "Master"? (7/5/2008 9:22:31 AM)

I would have to say that I agree with both the original poster AND some of the responses.  The only person who calls me Master is my slave, my wife, my lover.  I really get a kick out of some of the ID tags on here, like... "MasterBob" or "TomtheMaster" or various other types of names.  To me the Master term is not a title that can be achieved as in Martial Arts or some other activity.  It is simply the station you have achieved in your life with a particular person.  Otherwise, you are just a Dominant who participates in activities with submissives.  My wife refers to me as her Master because I am the only man who could ever tame her, subjugate her, make her weak, and bring out her submission in its entirety.  SHE gave me the privileged title, no one else.  Yes, others in my past whimpered their sweet nothings, such as, "Mercy, Master... Please, mercy."  LOL  But that was simple Mastery of a person and I they didn't refer to me as THEIR Master.  Nor did I.

Titles and labels are nothing more than pride and narcissism.  I would prefer to be labeled an expert on certain subject matter.  I am my slave's Master, but to others I'm just an expert in various things. 




ResidentSadist -> RE: WTF is a "Master"? (7/5/2008 1:50:52 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross
You aren't a real master until you've been told you're a fake/wannabe at least five times.

LMAO - nice rule of thumb!




tinydick12 -> RE: WTF is a "Master"? (7/6/2008 3:25:52 AM)

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cillydom -> RE: WTF is a "Master"? (7/6/2008 1:34:52 PM)

my definition, someone that has someone that thinks that about him




Phobetor -> RE: WTF is a "Master"? (7/7/2008 4:16:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Firebirdseeking

I have been on this site about 2 years and I want to know what a master is.  Im serious.  "Married vanilla" guys call themselves masters; is that right?  are they in control of their life if they have a wife they are cheating on, for any reason?  Now another question:  is a master about toys, dungeons, and fancy knots?  using a singletail?  Im not impressed.  To me, a master is a man of character and integrity.  And please, dont remind me this is kink site.    I know some Masters, real masters.  And they all have good values and integrity.  Seems to me that many of the "masters" here are just about sexual domination and kink.  Period.  I know I am going to be criticized for this post but I felt it needed to be said.

firebirdseeking


Just as in anything concerning human nature, there will be no hard-rules to what is at essence an arbitrary definition.  I personally eschew the "master" honorific.  Most of what has now become established BDSM nomenclature tends to be too inflexible to cover or accurately reflect what someone either truly identifies mostly with or what their nature might be.  Rather than being a static spectrum that someone lies within and which you can peg someone down as being, I find that even within an individual much less between people, there is a dynamical range that is always shifting in mood, temperament, degree, and extent.  In certain people, there is clearly a set-point, which they naturally gravitate toward, even if they explore around that phenotypic anchoring.  For instance, there are many dom/mes that have and do enjoy being dominated from time to time.  Would this negate their dominant nature?  Likewise, there are submissives, who perhaps out of desire to serve another or simple curiosity, have dominanted people.  Does that mean they are confused as to their natural inclinations?  I would say no to either of these cases, and nor are they switches necessarily; their natural instincts are set more toward one end of the spectrum than the other.  In this regard, a switch finds himself less anchored or drawn to any natural settling point and the nature of a switch is then much more influenced upon their particularly variable mood and often by their partner, who can elicit or inspire their dominant or submissive side.  Masters are driven more to control or own a person’s life essentially.  This is after all the essence of the S/M relationship.  They are dominant by default in that respect, but the converse is not true: One can be dominant and not a master.  I, for one, have no interest in controlling or owning anyone’s life or having them serve me in real-life in that fashion.  So someone that is a sexual dominant that has no interest in this control or ownership who calls themselves master is being misleading.  That said however, I feel you have too restrictive a view on the more complex personality types involved in kink.  Someone can be a master to one person and a sexual dom to others.  And yes, as you have correctly pointed out, some doms are only interested in sexual domination and kink.  You might be having a tendentious view to project your want of seeing doms as masters onto those that simply are not, and this will only set you up for continued disappointment.  Just as people need to be honest with what they want and desire from others, they first have to be honest with themselves in finding out what it is that they want for themselves and from another.  This applies to anyone, regardless of the nomenclature that you might want to evoke, dominant or not. 




scottishjason -> RE: WTF is a "Master"? (7/7/2008 10:12:53 PM)

Well firebird you are right in a lot of ways.  I have been looking around on this site and I have to say I am not just very disappointed I am also disgusted by what I have found.  Most of the people both men and woman that call themselves “masters” or “doms” have no clue what those things are.  They put themselves into a lifestyle that they truly do not understand to try to have control over something in there pathetic lives.  They believe that because they can tie a knot or crack a whip that it makes them someone important.  They hide the fact that they live pathetic lives to the point that some of them actually believe the bullshit they say.

Here is the reality.  If you meet someone that insists that you call them master or sir or some shit like that.  They are not really worth anything.  That is unless you like men that try too hard to be something that they are not and never will be.  If you find some mistress that can’t put on your knees and physically put you in your place.  She is just a little bitch who is trying to be way more than she really is.  Slap her around a bit and see how much of a master she really is.  If you do it right you can get her to make that sexy little sound of pain that I love so much just before she pathetically cries her self to sleep.

So why in the hell am I still here?  That is a damn good question.  Hell I don’t even know why in the fuck I care about telling you anything like it is.  Other than I am still hunting down some prey.  This brings me to another point.  All of the fake slaves and subs on this site.  They put down interests like I give a fuck what they are into.  They want to talk like I care what they think.  If you think a salve can talk to me like I am interviewing for a job you are very sadly mistaken.  If I wanted you that bad I would buy your ass… and believe me… everyone has a cost just like everything does.

People on sites like this need to be true to themselves and others.  If you’re a fake.  Go fake the fuck off.  Before someone like me takes some interest in you.  Because if that happens your world will be nothing more than a distant memory.

So what’s a master?  A master is a MAN who will keep you as his own.  He will treat you like a possession.  He will do with you as he pleases and if you don’t like it he doesn’t care.  You belong to him and no matter what you want or think you will serve.  Until he doesn’t want you anymore.

Now for all of you “play” people out there that may have a problem with something I have said.  How about you tell me to my face what you think?  Otherwise shut the fuck up because I don’t care what you think.




RedMagic1 -> RE: WTF is a "Master"? (7/7/2008 10:19:35 PM)

I think that sometimes the predator becomes the prey.




masterforRT -> RE: WTF is a "Master"? (7/8/2008 1:29:28 PM)

Would it surprise you to learn that most true Doms have been so since childhood or at least adolescence? No, we didn't beat subs then, but generally we were the leaders in our groups of friends.
Same thing for subs-many knew they were submissive from a young age.

Both these things suggest 'hard coding' of our DNA-just like our genetics determine out eye color-it also determines our pre-disposition to be Dom or Sub-or neither.






softness -> RE: WTF is a "Master"? (7/8/2008 1:32:45 PM)

Nodsnods ... the Submissive's Union is now recruiting in High schools I saw the van parked outside today ... its baited with jelly babies and fluffy bunny slippers.... and I actually saw a young lad of 12 be given His Dom Card and doing The Secret Handshake of True Dominance





MisterBeast -> RE: WTF is a "Master"? (7/8/2008 10:54:43 PM)

I am having a moment here, Maybe I just need to ditch this whole "Master" business and just start refering to myself as a "Dominant alpha male with a spine and morals"

Actually though even though I am Dominant, I never do call myself a master, I figure it is a title that if I am deserving of, I will get it. I have a somwhat comical entry on my journal on the subject if your bored and need some good toilet reading. ..




MisterBeast -> RE: WTF is a "Master"? (7/8/2008 10:55:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: softness

Nodsnods ... the Submissive's Union is now recruiting in High schools I saw the van parked outside today ... its baited with jelly babies and fluffy bunny slippers.... and I actually saw a young lad of 12 be given His Dom Card and doing The Secret Handshake of True Dominance




Lest we not forget the "I am all that is man!!!" tee-shirt!




DMFParadox -> RE: WTF is a "Master"? (7/10/2008 3:35:00 AM)

Big guy
gets things done; 'social' strength, village leadership role, people listen and do.
Can kick some ass occasionally, if wanted or needed.
Will kick some ass occasionally.
Perceptive, adaptable, strong.
Mean streak.
Nice streak.
'Generous with praise, hearty with appreciation.' 
Demands more.  And gets it alot of the time.




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