RE: Whining/Complaining of a sub from a Master is O.K. (Full Version)

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Whining/Complaining about a sub from a Master is O.K.


True
  36% (15)
False
  63% (26)


Total Votes : 41
(last vote on : 6/30/2008 9:51:35 AM)
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faerytattoodgirl -> RE: Whining/Complaining of a sub from a Master is O.K. (6/29/2008 10:07:35 PM)

thats not mr rogers...its in fact dr pepper's song (the soft drink)

im a pepper your a pepper...etc




christine1 -> RE: Whining/Complaining of a sub from a Master is O.K. (6/29/2008 10:47:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lumus


Sheesh, why can't some subs get a joke???? <-[parodies within parodies]



okay, i either need sleep, coffee, or chinese food to fuel my brain.  i thought that said "parodies within poodles" at first and i was like....well, nm.




puppen -> RE: Whining/Complaining of a sub from a Master is O.K. (6/30/2008 4:29:27 AM)

Whining, in my eyes, is a subbie act.
[8|]




sirsholly -> RE: Whining/Complaining of a sub from a Master is O.K. (6/30/2008 5:43:06 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Level

Maybe he'll tape her mouth shut, and THEN whine at her, as a form of punishment.....[&:]


please stop giving Sir your ideas....




LaTigresse -> RE: Whining/Complaining about a sub from a Master is O.K. (6/30/2008 5:50:16 AM)

Anyone whining and complaining about anything is never "okay" to me. It's annoying and shows a lack of character and maturity.




LaTigresse -> RE: Whining/Complaining of a sub from a Master is O.K. (6/30/2008 5:51:25 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: puppen

Whining, in my eyes, is a subbie act.
[8|]


Not MY submissives.




divi -> RE: Whining/Complaining about a sub from a Master is O.K. (6/30/2008 5:56:23 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Anyone whining and complaining about anything is never "okay" to me. It's annoying and shows a lack of character and maturity.

I totally agree...whining is just irritating and annoying in a person




stella41b -> RE: Whining/Complaining about a sub from a Master is O.K. (6/30/2008 5:58:02 AM)

So does this mean that most people prefer a whiner in a hot dog as opposed to a person?




divi -> RE: Whining/Complaining about a sub from a Master is O.K. (6/30/2008 5:59:30 AM)

can't speak for everyone lol.. but i'd rather a nice bbq'd hot dog




LaTigresse -> RE: Whining/Complaining about a sub from a Master is O.K. (6/30/2008 6:02:04 AM)

Probably not a whiner but a weiner. Though I don't prefer those either as a general rule. Not since my dad's construction company built an addition onto the Rath Packing Plant and he came home and told us how hotdogs were made. I believe he forbade my mother ever buying them again.




sirsholly -> RE: Whining/Complaining of a sub from a Master is O.K. (6/30/2008 6:02:59 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lumus



Sheesh, why can't some subs get a joke????



maybe cause it wasn't funny? [sm=dunno.gif]




LadyRainfire -> RE: Whining/Complaining of a sub from a Master is O.K. (6/30/2008 7:20:39 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sirsholly

quote:

ORIGINAL: Level

Maybe he'll tape her mouth shut, and THEN whine at her, as a form of punishment.....[&:]


please stop giving Sir your ideas....


But it's a good idea, especially since you seem to have a problem keeping yer mouth closed....




DesFIP -> RE: Whining/Complaining of a sub from a Master is O.K. (6/30/2008 7:26:48 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: chickpea

quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Can you give an example?  Sometimes complaints and even whines are completely legitimate, reasonable and even quite humorous.


Okay, for instance let's say a sub does not listen to a Dom or act the way he wants her to, and then the Dom spends his time whining.  Mmmmm, like if the Dom wants her to stop talking so much, and the sub continues to.  Not a direct order, but like a preference of the Dom.  He doesn't make an attempt to order her not to talk, he just whines.  [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m9.gif[/image]


Not all dominants bark orders. For some of us, him expressing a preference is enough. We are supposed to comply with that without needing orders. Because when he tells you what would please him, you don't need an order as you've already been given the correct information.

So he complains that you aren't submitting to him and you view this as whining. Sounds like you're acting out hoping to get a spanking for being a bad girl. Now I like a spanking as much as the next one, but here it isn't done to force me to comply, it's done because we both enjoy it.

Submit or don't, you already know what he wants. Either do it or tell him you aren't compatible. Refusing to submit because he won't dom you in the way you tell him to is not a way to show your submissiveness.

What I'm hearing is that you aren't compatible. He wants someone willing to submit and you want to be forced. That does not, per se, make either of you bad, it just makes you incompatible. What is wrong is you blaming him for you not submitting.




puppen -> RE: Whining/Complaining of a sub from a Master is O.K. (6/30/2008 9:24:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

quote:

ORIGINAL: puppen

Whining, in my eyes, is a subbie act.
[8|]


Not MY submissives.


Well, I'm sure your submissives know better.
Me? I'm a whiner. I like to get my way.




LaTigresse -> RE: Whining/Complaining of a sub from a Master is O.K. (6/30/2008 9:24:58 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: puppen

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

quote:

ORIGINAL: puppen

Whining, in my eyes, is a subbie act.
[8|]


Not MY submissives.


Well, I'm sure your submissives know better.
Me? I'm a whiner. I like to get my way.


And that works for you?




puppen -> RE: Whining/Complaining of a sub from a Master is O.K. (6/30/2008 9:29:16 AM)

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And that works for you?

More often than not. And, honestly, if I do get my way via that technique, I drop the dominant. (Have always done this during the testing period.) He/She isn't worth my time if they can't see through a little whimpering and just smack me one.




LaTigresse -> RE: Whining/Complaining of a sub from a Master is O.K. (6/30/2008 9:33:56 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: puppen

quote:



And that works for you?

More often than not. And, honestly, if I do get my way via that technique, I drop the dominant. (Have always done this during the testing period.) He/She isn't worth my time if they can't see through a little whimpering and just smack me one.


"More often than not." that is unfortunate.  I can see why some might use it to test a dominant. In fact, now that I think about it, I know a switch that tried it with me a time or two.




puppen -> RE: Whining/Complaining of a sub from a Master is O.K. (6/30/2008 9:45:57 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

quote:

ORIGINAL: puppen

quote:



And that works for you?

More often than not. And, honestly, if I do get my way via that technique, I drop the dominant. (Have always done this during the testing period.) He/She isn't worth my time if they can't see through a little whimpering and just smack me one.


"More often than not." that is unfortunate.  I can see why some might use it to test a dominant. In fact, now that I think about it, I know a switch that tried it with me a time or two.

Agreed, very unfortunate. Especially when you think you really "click" with that person.
It's a really effective way to test how they handle situations and habits. Sure, you come across as a baby for a few moments, but, they can come across as the puss that puts down the flogger and gives you whatever it is you desire, or they could prove to have some damn dominant backbone.
If I wanted a pushover, I'd be searching for a boyfriend.
;)




Mercnbeth -> RE: Whining/Complaining of a sub from a Master is O.K. (6/30/2008 9:57:36 AM)

~ Fast Reply ~
 
Whining/Complaining originating from either side of the flogger is an exhibition of insecurity, especially when done in 'cyber-world' where, by definition, anyone replying is doing so based upon one side of the issue. Whether you generate the desired 'head-bob' or a scourging at the pillar of sanctimony; the result is the same - validation in an invalid media, creating worthless equity.




DesFIP -> RE: Whining/Complaining of a sub from a Master is O.K. (6/30/2008 10:33:09 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: puppen

Agreed, very unfortunate. Especially when you think you really "click" with that person.
It's a really effective way to test how they handle situations and habits. Sure, you come across as a baby for a few moments, but, they can come across as the puss that puts down the flogger and gives you whatever it is you desire, or they could prove to have some damn dominant backbone.
If I wanted a pushover, I'd be searching for a boyfriend.
;)


Of course, they may take your whining as fear or an unwillingness and since they only want someone who submits consensually, they assume that you are withdrawing consent to this act. Especially in a very new relationship, or just in the beginning stages of getting to know you, it's most likely they would agree rather than force you and have you freak out and call the police or tell everyone what a bad dominant they are.

Unless of course you tell them first that you do this, and that it's okay for them to override your refusals. Because intelligent men who don't know a women very well do not assume that no means yes.




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