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RE: Learning to lap dance - 7/3/2008 3:53:25 PM

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I had a couple links - as mentioned above, youtube is your friend! Search it, you will be amazed at the instructional videos there.

How to Strip Tease - Preparation
Strip Moves #2
exotic dancing tips

Exotic Dance

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RE: Learning to lap dance - 7/4/2008 6:51:34 AM

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Thanks for the links, Maya! This is actually something I've suggested to my guy before, but, he, too, had really no place to start, in the days before youtube, and I hadn't thought of it since.

Of the videos you posted, I think the third was the best, with several good moves (and several bad ones :P) in it. The others kind of left me going "meh". In the third, he was doing an awful lot of guiding her, which, for rather obvious reasons, I wouldn't like, but, then, we aren't talking a paid situation here. ;P I particularly liked the move (somewhere around 7 minutes in, I think) where he had his legs up around her and his hands on the floor; attractive and with a slightly submissive bent to it.

Fox, if she's anything at all like me, she'd love for you to do that, secret or not. I support the idea of watching videos to get some ideas and tips and tricks, but also think more intimately about things that turn her on when you do them that you might be able to incorporate into a dance...for a tame example, I enjoy watching my guy do nude push-ups, and that's something he could totally work into a dance, and that I would appreciate because it showed that he was paying attention to what I like. So my biggest tip is to use your intimate knowledge to tailor your dance moves specifically to her.

Go for it!

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RE: Learning to lap dance - 7/4/2008 2:19:39 PM

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And let us know how it turns out!

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RE: Learning to lap dance - 7/4/2008 2:25:26 PM

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Slight hijack here, he announced one day he wanted me to do a table dance and I looked him in the eye and said there was no way I was dancing on top of a table in those heels. He couldn't stop laughing and I had to wait for him to calm down before he could explain what a table dance was.

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i remember being that naive and innocent too; of course, that was way back when

I still -am- that naive and innocent.

What -is- a table dance if it isn't dancing on a table?

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RE: Learning to lap dance - 7/4/2008 2:29:02 PM

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Shawn! (My best friend's name is Shawn.)

Youtube is good. I'm actually teaching myself to pole dance from Youtube videos. There are a couple male pole dancers and those guys knock my socks off! I'm so jealous because guys can learn and perform moves that, as a girl, I could never do because I'll just never have that sort of body structure or muscle mass.

It is all about the eyes though. Even if you fall on your ass or trip or something; if you've been giving her this smoldering look the entire time, you're going to look hawt! Tequila helps but too much will guarantee a fall.

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RE: Learning to lap dance - 7/5/2008 8:15:21 PM

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Ok. I'm going to try not to threadjack, or start a war here, but..

PLEASE do not compare belly dancing to stripping. Belly Dancing is an ancient art form that is not (nor has it ever been) about seducing men (or women), and it is not about taking clothing off. (As expensive as our costumes are, we like to leave them on.)
If you want to learn to strip or do a lap dance, check out the Carmen Electra videos, but please please please, leave belly dance alone.

~Yasmina (Yes, I am a Belly Dancer.) :)

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RE: Learning to lap dance - 7/5/2008 9:46:24 PM

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PLEASE do not compare belly dancing to stripping. Belly Dancing is an ancient art form that is not (nor has it ever been) about seducing men (or women), and it is not about taking clothing off. (As expensive as our costumes are, we like to leave them on.)
If you want to learn to strip or do a lap dance, check out the Carmen Electra videos, but please please please, leave belly dance alone.

~Yasmina (Yes, I am a Belly Dancer.) :)

No offense, but this is a load of BS.

I have done both belly dance and exotic dance as well as tap and ballet. Belly dance is very sensual. Whether or not belly dance is about seduction, taking clothes off, or leaving your over-priced costume on is not relevant to the discussion. What is relevant is learning to move the body in a way that is aesthetically pleasing and that can be turned into an erotic expression of his love and devotion. Any type of dance can do that, from ballet to hip-hop. Belly dance just happens to use movements that will accomplish the desired result and are relatively simple to learn in a short amount of time.

So get over yourself already.

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RE: Learning to lap dance - 7/5/2008 9:49:02 PM

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predominant conclusion at this time is that stripping is a far more ancient art with strippers appearing in ceratin cave paintings in neolithic france.

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PLEASE do not compare belly dancing to stripping. Belly Dancing is an ancient art form that is not (nor has it ever been) about seducing men (or women), and it is not about taking clothing off. (As expensive as our costumes are, we like to leave them on.)
If you want to learn to strip or do a lap dance, check out the Carmen Electra videos, but please please please, leave belly dance alone.

~Yasmina (Yes, I am a Belly Dancer.) :)

No offense, but this is a load of BS.

I have done both belly dance and exotic dance as well as tap and ballet. Belly dance is very sensual. Whether or not belly dance is about seduction, taking clothes off, or leaving your over-priced costume on is not relevant to the discussion. What is relevant is learning to move the body in a way that is aesthetically pleasing and that can be turned into an erotic expression of his love and devotion. Any type of dance can do that, from ballet to hip-hop. Belly dance just happens to use movements that will accomplish the desired result and are relatively simple to learn in a short amount of time.

So get over yourself already.

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RE: Learning to lap dance - 7/6/2008 10:01:55 AM

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I will agree that belly dance can be sensual. but it is not sexual.

This kind of discussion bothers me, because so many of us who are serious about belly dance as a career can't get people to look past past the "belly dancers are strippers" stigma, and its because of things like this. Again, yes, it can be sensual, but there is a HUGE difference between being sensual and being sexual. Belly Dance does not equal lap dancing. And I have to insert here that learning to do belly dance moves in the proper way is not "simple" at all. Some moves may be easier than others to pick up, yes, but one has to be careful of posture and body placement to refrain from injury.

that's all I was trying to say.
Btw, bringing the costuming bit in was supposed to be a bit of comic relief. Its a quote I read somewhere.

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RE: Learning to lap dance - 7/6/2008 10:36:03 AM

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I will agree that belly dance can be sensual. but it is not sexual.

This kind of discussion bothers me, because so many of us who are serious about belly dance as a career can't get people to look past past the "belly dancers are strippers" stigma, and its because of things like this. Again, yes, it can be sensual, but there is a HUGE difference between being sensual and being sexual. Belly Dance does not equal lap dancing. And I have to insert here that learning to do belly dance moves in the proper way is not "simple" at all. Some moves may be easier than others to pick up, yes, but one has to be careful of posture and body placement to refrain from injury.

that's all I was trying to say.
Btw, bringing the costuming bit in was supposed to be a bit of comic relief. Its a quote I read somewhere.

The real point is that It Doesn't Matter whether belly dance as an art form is sexual or in any way equated with stripping. I was a stripper, and a belly dancer, and I used belly dance moves in my exotic dance routines. They're hardly mutually exclusive. And frankly, beginning belly dance is a heck of a lot easier to learn and takes less muscle strength than pole dancing so I'll thank you not to dismiss exotic dance out of hand.

In any case, whether or not belly dance is the equivalent of stripping isn't the issue and no one ever implied that they were the same thing. What we said, if you'd bothered to really pay attention, was that learning a few elementary moves taken from multiple sources including belly dance and exotic dance would help Fox put together a sexy dance routine for his mistress.

Frankly, as a professional dancer, I think you should be thrilled to help him express his love. The fact that you're hyperfocusing on a nitpicky detail like the differences between dance styles speaks poorly of you.

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RE: Learning to lap dance - 7/6/2008 11:23:43 AM

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I was not dismissing exotic dance at all. I've tried pole dancing, just for fun, and I don't have the upper body strength it takes for it.

What I'm "nitpicking" about is the fact that people are taking a CULTURAL dance form and reducing it down to movements to perform an erotic dance. That's not what that dance is about. Period.

At any rate, I see there is no sense in trying to educate people here about this, as you already have your mind made up. I've said what I wanted to say. Reply all you want, but I'm done with this discussion.

I do wish Fox luck in preparing a dance for his Mistress.

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RE: Learning to lap dance - 7/6/2008 11:58:01 AM

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You're right, you don't need to "educate" people who are already as well or possibly better educated than you about dance forms and their many applications. You also don't need to "educate" anyone about completely irrelevant issues that have your knickers in a knot for no reason. You're more than welcome to be as narrow-minded as you claim we are. Personally, I'd prefer it if you'd do it somewhere else. But that's me.

Good luck with your career. Your attitude suggests you'll need it.

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RE: Learning to lap dance - 7/6/2008 7:24:50 PM

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I would just like to thank everybody for the overwhelming support and information I've gotten on this topic. It's something I'll definitely be able to put into use in a few weeks when I officially start practicing when my Owner isn't around. :-p

And keep the advice coming if you'd like, I'm sure if there's more that I can use it as well.

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