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RE: Starbucks closing 600 stores - 7/2/2008 4:54:17 AM

kittinSol

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Starbucks had a policy of opening many stores at once in order to crush the competition in a given area. They would run their operations whether they were profitable or not just to ensure they had a monopoly. Now they're closing down the surplus: they just can't afford it any more. Has anyone noticed they've shifted their modus operandi from relaxing couches and coffee lounges to FuckDonald's drive-ins and yucky sandwiches? Meanwhile, Mickey D's are turning into Starbucks...

In Geneva, a relatively small city absolutely packed full of coffee shops and bars that sell coffee continental style, they opened three shops at once in strategic places: one had queues out of the door, it was so popular. The other two were mostly empty. It was sad, but people consume mindlessly...

What goes up must come down: it's Starbuck's turn to get on its knees

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RE: Starbucks closing 600 stores - 7/2/2008 4:55:04 AM

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I know people who work for Starbucks and say it's a great place to work. Sad about the job losses as a result of closing so many stores.

I've always preferred Peet's coffee - a much richer flavor. Still, I buy the whole beans and grind & brew 'em at home. No $4/cup with that tactic. One can do the same with Starbucks, too.

Starbucks was so successful because people ate (er...drank) it up. Obviously there was a demand for it. But the point about a gallon of gas costing more than a 16oz latte is a good one. Personally, I never thought their coffee was that great, but a periodic "fru fru drink" (as one Starbucks manager I know puts it) can be quite refreshing.

I heard the same about working there. It is sad to hear people losing their jobs. I wasn't a big fan but I did buy my share of Chai Latte's and Frapachino's(sp).

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RE: Starbucks closing 600 stores - 7/2/2008 5:37:06 AM

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Meh.
Now, if truck stops cease to provide the 24-oz-French-Vanilla-Espresso-for-$1.69 machines... then there might be some problems.

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RE: Starbucks closing 600 stores - 7/2/2008 6:13:54 AM

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600 down ... 6,500 to go

Starbucks is to coffee what KFC is to chicken and Mtv is to music ...
(- in case you can't tell, that's not a compliment. -)

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RE: Starbucks closing 600 stores - 7/2/2008 6:20:38 AM

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The best thing to come out of Starbucks:

Cranberry Bliss Bar

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RE: Starbucks closing 600 stores - 7/2/2008 6:57:17 AM

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Sad to think of people loosing their jobs. I won't miss Starbucks because I almost never went. Maybe twice in my life when I was traveling and they were in the hotel lobby. I thought their coffee sucked and was watery and overpriced. I make a wayyyyyy better cafe au lait in my kichen.

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RE: Starbucks closing 600 stores - 7/2/2008 8:02:03 AM

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"Starbucks (SBUX) can’t catch a break. The coffee retailer says it will close 600 stores, about 8.5% of its 7,100 total stores, an expansion of the 100-store closing target it had previously announced.

How can they not catch a break? That's all they've had for the better part of what 15 years? People had to be insane to spend 5 dollars for a cup of coffee. Consider that 5 dollars each day saved and how much extra money would you have saved up so far? How many vacations would it have paid for?
If you're a smoker...add that extra money to the tally.

What have you given up in life for...a caffeine and nicotine high?

Although I did once own stock in Starbucks...sold it about a year and a half ago when I knew their time was going to be over soon. First smart stock trade I've made in my life so far.

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RE: Starbucks closing 600 stores - 7/2/2008 8:41:19 AM

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During Highschool I worked as a Barista for a few Bohemian Cafe's managed a few and then took a Job with Jitters where The owner saw my love for coffee and cultivated it.

I was sent to School in Seattle and again for a month in Peru where I learned about all things coffee and eventually became a coffee snob. The experience ruined coffee for me because I was no longer able to focus on how good a coffee was I could only focus on what was wrong with it.

Education will tell you that the worst thing to happen to the coffee drinkers Palate is STARBUCKS, they RUINED coffee and the miseducated people, case in point the have a drink they call a Caramel Machiado which is actually just a Caramel Latte so when I would have someone order a Machiado I would wake them one which is actually a lightly Cremed Cappuccino with a shot of caramel. They were expecting a big drink cause that is what they get at starbucks however that isn't what they ordered they ordered a Machiado.

Second and by far the absolute worst, is because Starbucks has SO MANY stores they have Central Roasting plants that require them to OVER Prouduce Coffee and since they need the bean to store well the have to dark roast EVERYTHING meaning the Burn all the coffee, Meaning no matter what they tell you you have never actually has Peabody in a Starbucks because it is a light roast coffee and only good for a week after roasting before it ROTS, so they DARK roast it to a point where the Flavor that causes it to be a Peabody Roast is all gone. They try to over sell items like Jamican Blue Mountain which in my personal opinion have a flavor that is comparable to just about every HOUSE BLEND on the Planet and not worth the 29.50 a pound it usually goes for you can buy relativly the same thing for 1.25 in a supermarket.

Finally the worst thing that Starbucks did to coffee was create things that do not exist and lead people to believe that they do. Anyone who walks into an ACTUAL cafe and orders a Frappaccuino Should be Drawn and Quartered and then have thier children beat. There is NO such thing it is a Name Brand of a Creation of STARBUCKS, When I managed Cafe Copioh we had a big sign on the counter that said

"Friends don't let friends drink Starbucks!"

That being said anyone who ordered a Frappacinno or tried to describe one was sent to starbucks and we refused service to them, Sure we lost a 5 dollar sale here and there but a cafe has to have standards.

Starbucks made coffee Trendy that is ALL it did, If you want a fancy Blended drink just put a few cubes of Ice a stale cup of coffee and a YooHoo in a Blender and there you go so much cheaper and probably better than what they are shoving down your gullet at Starbucks.

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RE: Starbucks closing 600 stores - 7/2/2008 8:54:17 AM

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AWWWWW! pardon me if i don't throw a pity party for them! i've bought a plain cup of coffee there once in the last six years and that's only because they had a short line and i was driving back from michigan.
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RE: Starbucks closing 600 stores - 7/2/2008 9:12:26 AM

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As for the "jobs" being lost at starbucks - good riddance they were shit jobs. We need fewer shit jobs in this country, and more high paying careers. The now unemployed kid behind the counter at Starbucks can very easily turn in their silly green shirt for a blue vest with a smiley face on it and make the same money... They can go serve reasonably priced coffee in a real diner / waffle house / IHOP and make more because of the tips. Starbucks was "fast food coffee" and the jobs lost are fast food jobs.

As far as the rest goes - Starbucks, at least here, was the hang out of the redneck high school kid trying to be sophisticated and the pseudo-intellectual. People such as my ex-wife, tried to envision / spin it as the place where the great minds congregated to discuss philosophy and the days events and to write their great masterpiece. It was actually hilarious - because in reality the truly sucessful people ranging from NASA staff and astronauts, and the white collar crowd form the airlines, petrochemical industry, maritime and shipping industry, and even the members of the local chamber of commerce are found in the area strip clubs drinking premium beer and mixed drinks for less than the price of a Starbucks coffee. LOL (Plus you are supporting single mothers.

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RE: Starbucks closing 600 stores - 7/2/2008 12:12:11 PM

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DA, I've got to get you guys to come up here and teach our chamber of commerce.

As for Starbucks, I have never really cared for their burnt coffee and have wondered why this didn't happen before. I watched a decent coffee shop move into an area in Iowa where the Starbucks thought they had a firm hold and they ripped half of the loyal customers away. Another one moved in on the other side of the Charbucks and grabbed almost all of the rest. The only reason they seemed able to hold make any sales at all was the fact that the folks at Barnes & Noble could rab something there while they looked for books. Still, the lines were almost to the door when I first moved to that area. When I moved away, I could buy my kid an overpriced cookie with no wait at all.

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RE: Starbucks closing 600 stores - 7/2/2008 12:25:37 PM

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DA, I've got to get you guys to come up here and teach our chamber of commerce.

LOL Irish - strip clubs are a fixture of Texas business. I cant even begin to imagine how many multimillion dollar deals have been hatched at the pirate ship LOL! Hey - Anna Nicole Smith met her old billionaire husband at a strip club...

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RE: Starbucks closing 600 stores - 7/2/2008 12:29:01 PM

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Anna Nicole Smith met her old billionaire husband at a strip club...

I don't recall her life ending well...

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RE: Starbucks closing 600 stores - 7/2/2008 12:33:44 PM

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Anna Nicole Smith met her old billionaire husband at a strip club...

I don't recall her life ending well...

Yeah but she had a nice run while it lasted.... She ended up pretty typically for a drug addict, but her time in the strip club did bring her a Texas businessman and a life in a mansion etc... Things started to go downhill for her when the son decided it was time to get daddys whore off the gravy train....

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RE: Starbucks closing 600 stores - 7/2/2008 1:30:35 PM

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I detest starbucks. The coffee sucks and is way the hell overpriced. I can make coffee at home, at 1/8 the price and 1000 times the flavor. The snacks they sell as "food" have about the same taste and nutrional content as cardboard and are way the hell over priced. If I wanna eat something that tastes, smells, and has the nutrional content of cardboard, I'll go hit the mcduck's drivethru. If I simply wanna hang out at a coffeeshop in my town, there's a lil local place over on the other side of town that's rather eclectic, has a great atmosphere, 1/3 the price of starquacks, and actually draws a fairly intelligent and creative crowd - unlike the starbucks that opened a mile from me about 8 months ago, which seems to be primarily a hangout for bratty spoiled teenagers who live on the air force base across the street and spend all of mom & dad's money.

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RE: Starbucks closing 600 stores - 7/2/2008 1:42:34 PM

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i can't stand starbucks anymore. i used to like the ones back home but i think there is one in the entire city of buffalo that i actually like. it's become way too...trendy. you don't go to starbucks for coffee you go for the cup. half the time i can't even get them to get my order right or in a timely manner (hello it doesn't take twenty minutes to pour an iced coffee, even if you do have to steam drinks, especially when i ordered before ten of those steamed orders. i used to do this job. i know). i go if i'm stuck studying late at night since they're open the latest on my campus but beyond that i'm slowly starting to destest the actual store. i buy their ground stuff every once in awile but even then i like green mountain better.

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RE: Starbucks closing 600 stores - 7/2/2008 1:43:21 PM

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I really have no idea where people get this "4-5 dollar cup of coffee" nonsense from. A cup of coffee from Starbucks ranges from $1.66 (8 oz) to $2.09 (20 oz), tax included. It varies a bit by region, but not by much. If you're paying more than that it's because you're not getting a regular cup of coffee.

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RE: Starbucks closing 600 stores - 7/2/2008 2:51:51 PM

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The reason I am glad they hopefully, eventually go out of business is ... duh dun dun... they got rid of irish cream which is the only flavor of lattee I will drink. its either an irish cream lattee, or a plain black cup of coffee.. an mcdonalds has a better cup of just straight black coffee then star bucks, and for like half the price!

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RE: Starbucks closing 600 stores - 7/2/2008 2:58:55 PM

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Just carry a small handy flask of Bailey's around with you, pour it in any coffee, anywhere, et voilà!

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RE: Starbucks closing 600 stores - 7/2/2008 3:15:08 PM

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Thank you for the insider's view, Steel. Their coffee always seemed off somehow in it's taste. I very rarely will order from a Starbucks, sometimes when inside Barnes and Noble and book shopping. But given a choice, I always will go to a small, independently owed and operated cafe'. That is easy in this area since it is a college town.

I do feel for the people loosing their jobs and this may effect a friend or two. One mentioned she was grateful for the employee benefits program that Starbucks provides and she enjoys the majority of their regular customers.

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