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slavekal -> What is wrong with sub males? (7/3/2008 8:15:55 AM)

Ninety percent flakes.  Ms. Mlicious is not even really looking for any new slaves, although if a really good one comes along, she would consider taking him on.  Dozens and dozens of guys contact her asking to be her slave, anyway. 
On the occasions that she does respond favorably, she instructs them to show up at a certain place to meet, and these guys almost never show up (which is why she tells them to show up at a place she was already planning to be).  Or they call once, go into a song and dance about how much they work, and how they may not be able to set up any face to face meetings.  Fine.  If you are too busy, don't contact her unless and until your schedule permits.  How difficult is that? 
What is wrong with you guys?  Stop wasing the time of these women.  If you have no intention of meeting, leave her alone.  If you are looking for phone sex, call Niteflirt or some other service.  Grow the f&$k up, already.




RedMagic1 -> RE: What is wrong with sub males? (7/3/2008 8:21:01 AM)

If it's any consolation, my guess is 90% of the sub females have no interest in meeting either.  I base this on conversations with women where they say they are just trying to collect information, only interested in online, are too afraid of driving to drive outside their home area -- but they don't want to meet anyone too close to home.

That said, I've met some great ladies online-to-real, both Dom and sub.  We didn't always play -- and we didn't always like each other[;)] -- but they were genuine human beings who were honestly seeking.

I think it's an Internet thing, not a malesub thing.  I would imagine the men, however, can be more annoying and wankeristic.




AngelKittyX -> RE: What is wrong with sub males? (7/3/2008 8:45:02 AM)

I'm a female sub and it does appear there are alot of fakes in every orientation: slaves, subs, dom/mes, switches.  I refuse to meet people if I have a gut feeling that they aren't who they say they are.  But I agree it is disrespectful to say you would meet someone somewhere and never show up.




Usako -> RE: What is wrong with sub males? (7/3/2008 9:01:12 AM)

Would you like some cheese with that whine?

Seriously, get over it. It has nothing to do with "male subs" it has to do with people in general. Just because this is a BDSM site doesn't make people any less flakey. People have just as much trouble with flakes on a normal dating site, this one is no special.

If you want something good it requires effort in looking for it/waiting for it. Miracles don't fall on your lap.




slavekal -> RE: What is wrong with sub males? (7/3/2008 9:11:41 AM)

There is no whining going on here.  Pointing out the rude behavior of some people is not the same as whining.
Ms. Mlicious and I were wondering about what some of the responders have brought up.  Maybe it is not just sub guys.  Maybe people of both genders and all orientations are just as flaky.  It is really too bad that so many are so inconsiderate of others' time.  I have met many people through personals and websites.  Never jerked anyone around.  If I said I was going to meet a woman at the coffee shop at noon, I showed up.




Madame4a -> RE: What is wrong with sub males? (7/3/2008 9:13:41 AM)

maybe she's picking the wrong ones.. maybe that's the problem?





faerytattoodgirl -> RE: What is wrong with sub males? (7/3/2008 9:15:11 AM)

the issue is that there are 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

male subs..the most of any gender....




KLRDan -> RE: What is wrong with sub males? (7/3/2008 9:37:09 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

the issue is that there are 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

male subs..the most of any gender....



How does that explain the rudeness? If anything, I'd think the intense competition would make them raise their game.




faerytattoodgirl -> RE: What is wrong with sub males? (7/3/2008 9:46:47 AM)

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How does that explain the rudeness?


because a very high % of these male subs have form letters that they send out to every female on the site.  this causes discretion on who to write back to.  many of these male subs also just want to get their rocks off.  mistresses can usually tell this from an email.

not to mention that nobody is obligated to write back to anyone.  there is no rule that states this is a must thing to do. 

the fact that there are that many male subs also allows the mistress to be choosy. as well sometimes when a mistress writes back saying they are not interested, then the male sub in question often writes a very rude response.  including alot of profanity.





LadyHibiscus -> RE: What is wrong with sub males? (7/3/2008 9:50:16 AM)

I don't know what to tell you, kal, it's the same problem we all have.  I am only somewhat relieved to hear that the women are just as flaky about showing up.  I have gotten pretty harsh about setting up meetings myself---if it works out for MY schedule, and I am going to be there anyway, fine.  I won't extend myself for initial meetings anymore.




slavekal -> RE: What is wrong with sub males? (7/3/2008 9:57:03 AM)

When they contact Ms. Mlicious, she gives them my phone number.  Some even go to the trouble to call.  We talk, set up a time and place.  I tell them the lady will be at such and such an event.  If you want to meet her, you will be there.  They say that they will be there.  They just flake out most of the time.  Oh, but the glowing emails beforehand.  "I would do anything, I want to be your slave.....bla bla bla."  Bunch of fakes.  At least Ms. Mlicious has me to filter them.  I really feel for the ladies who are actively seeking a slave.




GuidingLite -> RE: What is wrong with sub males? (7/3/2008 10:03:41 AM)

girl puleeeze, you don't even need to talk. ur the biggest whiner ever, all crying about pros and shyt in other posts. yapping nagging girl who you kidding.




lockmeupplease -> RE: What is wrong with sub males? (7/3/2008 10:26:27 AM)

[:D]WAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! [:D]




GuidingLite -> RE: What is wrong with sub males? (7/3/2008 10:28:07 AM)

someone spoon feed this one puleeze!




Leatherist -> RE: What is wrong with sub males? (7/3/2008 10:42:30 AM)

That's why we have a "real life meetings" section..A way to prove you can at least manage to show up for coffee.




Usako -> RE: What is wrong with sub males? (7/3/2008 10:44:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GuidingLite

girl puleeeze, you don't even need to talk. ur the biggest whiner ever, all crying about pros and shyt in other posts. yapping nagging girl who you kidding.


Stalking my posts? Nice to know I have a fan. [:)]

I might have slightly found what you said insulting but I tend not to pay much attention to people who type like drunk monkies. But nice try kid.




GuidingLite -> RE: What is wrong with sub males? (7/3/2008 10:56:10 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Usako

quote:

ORIGINAL: GuidingLite

girl puleeeze, you don't even need to talk. ur the biggest whiner ever, all crying about pros and shyt in other posts. yapping nagging girl who you kidding.


Stalking my posts? Nice to know I have a fan. [:)]

I might have slightly found what you said insulting but I tend not to pay much attention to people who type like drunk monkies. But nice try kid.



Seriously, just out of curiosity, do they pay u for your hypocrisy?





Misstoyou -> RE: What is wrong with sub males? (7/3/2008 10:56:22 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: slavekal

When they contact Ms. Mlicious, she gives them my phone number. Some even go to the trouble to call. We talk, set up a time and place. I tell them the lady will be at such and such an event. If you want to meet her, you will be there. They say that they will be there. They just flake out most of the time. Oh, but the glowing emails beforehand. "I would do anything, I want to be your slave.....bla bla bla." Bunch of fakes. At least Ms. Mlicious has me to filter them. I really feel for the ladies who are actively seeking a slave.



Frankly, that has not been my experience. I think your results may be skewed precisely because you are the one filtering them. (Though of course I could be wrong, and maybe you were persistent enough to go through another male before meeting your owner, which would blow my own theory. lol)




ThundersCry -> RE: What is wrong with sub males? (7/3/2008 11:34:11 AM)

I have never really thought it was about what others...do, etc...
 
Why would anyone waste their time on such...metters...

The real question is...
 
HOW do I carry....myself.
 
 




RedMagic1 -> RE: What is wrong with sub males? (7/3/2008 11:44:12 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Madame4a
maybe she's picking the wrong ones.. maybe that's the problem?

I think there's something to this, slavekal, now that you've explained the situation further.  I've never had a no-show, the lady has always looked like her picture, and she has always weighed what she said she weighed.  I've hit the chat Ignore button plenty of times, but in almost every case, if we talked on the phone, we ended up meeting.

I think part of the problem lies in the "glowing email."  I am much more likey to pursue meeting someone who says, "I have no idea if I'm going to like you, and I'm not sure what all my limits are, but you're interesting, and I hope something good happens," than I am the "girl" who says, "I want to serve you in every way.  How would you like me to dress for the meeting, Sir?"  Woman #2 is working off of fantasy, not reality.

Maybe you should include a "fantasy vs. grit" filter in your selection process.  The guys who are more conservative and standoffish might be more likely to show up and be real.  The women who behave that way certainly are, in my experience.




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