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RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? - 7/7/2008 10:47:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you, Steel, you cleared things up very nicely.

Firstly, yes, I've considered the me-factor is all the data gathering.  I'm sure it has a factor.  Most of my female friends have had overall negative experiences with men, and are not (overall) really into sex.  They're not lovers or fighters - they're artists.

Secondly... The above pretty much wraps that up.

Lastly, I'm going to quote and pinpoint:
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Using the Scientific Equasion to find an answer about Human Nature is somewhat impossible because emotionally there is no Control (I.e. A Constant) I'm not sure I meant for an accurate equation, in which items can be replaced to get an answer.  I meant the theory of science is applicable to human nature.  As such, the "rules" of experimentation (many were brought up in your post) apply.  Controlling extrenuous factors, accurate judgment, reliable tests...Human Nature does not make all of us equal like it does other things. Nothing is equal.  Two 50 year old trees are very different.  I think humans are very different, on the singular level, but very similar on the macro level. Emotionally we are generally all different and as sexuality often runs parallel with emotional response one cannot apply the Scientific onto the Emotional because you lack one of the main ingredients and that is the Control. While I agree that not manipulating variables is spitting in the face of science, helpful and generalizable data is made from observation all the time. 

Just remember when looking for a Partner that YOU are the only constant if things Never work out right if you never get the perfered result maybe you should think about modifying the control before trying again.


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RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? - 7/7/2008 11:03:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Funny - I prefer men and most bisexual women I know do as well. I've been with a lot more men than women because, as already stated, women are a lot harder than men. I seem to do well with men whereas with women I feel like dweeb in the back of the middle school throwing pencils at the one they have a crush on for the most part.

Also, I'm not sure what being an artist has to do with it. From the POV of an art major who spent plenty of time with fellow art students, we run the range from being "So horny... hey you, fairly random person, wanna fuck on the printing table?" to "Eh... I don't see the big deal".

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RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? - 7/7/2008 11:25:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		i am a bisexual woman and that's the best way I can describe it because the last time I looked there were mostly two sexes out there and I am a sexual person....hence therefore notwithstanding bi-sexual. Actually pansexual would be a better term because i see the world through sex tinted spectacles.
Pomosexual, metrosexual....new labels for the way humans like to shove it into one another. That's all really.....and if a market research company came anywhere near me with a quantitative questionnaire to assess the percentahe of how i like to shove it in or have it shoved in i would most certainly ask the researches to shove it up their their arses.....

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RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? - 7/7/2008 11:29:28 AM   
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RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? - 7/7/2008 12:20:21 PM   
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RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? - 7/7/2008 12:23:04 PM   
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RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? - 7/7/2008 12:59:42 PM   
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I've noticed many bi-sexual women tend to be more interested in women than in men.  It's almost as if their sexual preference should read "Women and/or Brad Pitt."
Several ways to account for this bias, if it exists - but the likeliest is simply that she already either has a man or access to one or more, and is having more difficulty finding a suitable female partner within her current social envelope.

Statistically speaking, heterosexual males are simply more numerous and easier to find than bisexual females.

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RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? - 7/7/2008 1:20:01 PM   
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In my experience... (my disclaimer to make drastic sweeping generalizations)




I've noticed many bi-sexual women tend to be more interested in women than in men.  It's almost as if their sexual preference should read "Women and/or Brad Pitt."

What I'm saying is that I've never found a bisexual woman who gave men the same chance as women.  I have a few theories:

1) Years of males wanting nothing but sex have stigmatized her view on men.
2) Women are more desirable.

(Technically, the prior is a subsect of the latter.)

Also, I've noticed bi-sexual men to be far more 50-50 in their choses and openmindedness. 

I'm aware of Kinsey's scale theories, and recognize the silliness of trying to bunk something as free and complicated as sexuality into three categories.  Perhaps if the choices were Men, Women, Men and Women, Women and Choice Men Only, this post wouldn't have crept out of brain.

This could be an age related effect, as many women I meet are college students.  My father once gave me a line "LUGs"... Lesbian until graduation.  I thought it was cute (and demeaning to all 18-24 women).

So um... thoughts?


Well ... I really am a 50-50 bi girl .... who I wake up with in the morning depends purely on one thing ... what I went out looking for ... not who I went looking for.

I find men and women equally attractive sexually, emotionally, and intellectually .. but in *entirely* different ways

Girls are for recreation ... I usually take a Dominant role in relationships with women, and I enjoy what I do with them.

boys ... same .. recreation only .. and ditto about taking a Dominant role

Men ... that is serious .. because strong Men bring out my submissive needs, and those I take very seriously.

I decide on whether to create a relationship with someone based on what is between their ears ... not between their legs.

besides ... it makes it twice as easy to get laid ...

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RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? - 7/7/2008 1:49:26 PM   
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You can't? Well, as much as I am certain that was tongue in cheek, let me tell you why as a straight woman ( well.....90% anyway ). There is nothing better than having the knowledge that after something truly awful happens, we have those arms, those strong, sexy masculine arms, to curl up in and seek comfort, to know that no matter what, you will go right to the line for us, risking life and limb to protect us, to cherish, and to love us. We love that you can go outside and check on the strange noise, and not be scared, and then you can come in and comfort us, that when we are afraid you make us feel safe, when we need our fortress and our knight in armor, you are there, steady and waiting. Yes of course we can do these things for ourselves as well, but sometimes, just knowing that we don't have to because our man is there, waiting to do it just because he loves us and wants to? No better feeling than that,  for this girl anyway.   Equal but different, and nothing wrong with that.    



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Nail on the head.  You're an honorary man.  One of the guys.

This means, for this thread, it doesn't matter if you like men or women more =)

Edit:

I'd like to add that I can't fully comprehend how women are attracted to men.  I'm suprised women don't just keep us locked in cages for our genetic material and go off loving each other...

A man can dream.



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RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? - 7/7/2008 3:04:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		OP....since you are taking a survey....

Bi-sexual in only a sexual way. I am looking exclusively on this sight for a male, but i love the touch of a female. Though i have no desire except a freindship to be with one.

It scares me to hear someone try to catagorize CM, since it really has no real bases on the Bi community as a whole.

Also i have been with a couple Bi men. The only thing i have ever found with them is sometimes they really don't know what they want, and has nothing to do with being 50/50. That is one group of people i would love to understand more. There those who just love sex in any form, but what i have found is they want a female relationship because that is easier for society to accept.

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RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? - 7/7/2008 3:52:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I very strongly prefer males and only rarely will really feel attracted and act upon attraction towards females.

The idea that bisexuality means you're attracted to males exactly the same and in the same way as you are to females is a total myth. 

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RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? - 7/7/2008 4:04:32 PM   
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RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? - 7/7/2008 5:22:03 PM   
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Consider the degree of freedom:  The amount of numbers in a normal set that are "free" is one. 

The sum of five numbers will be 100.  Pick four random numbers.

25+(-34)+1+68 .... What is the fifth number?  It has to be 40, its not random. 

In this simple model the four random numbers represent factors in your life.  (the loving sibling, the colour toy, the crib softness...) The fifth number is the forced outcome (the subject's sexuality).  If I control the "random" factors, I can get a different forced outcome. 


n-1, yes ... but ... huh? I'm not sure exactly how you're controlling all other variables to measure for sexuality ... but ok. (I'm into biopsych, so my favorite interpretation is of course that sexuality is in part due to biological mechanisms like genetics (proteins, neuronal arrangment, pleasure centers, chemical gates, blah blah blah), and probably some environmental influence.) We'll also have to know the population mean and the standard deviation for the population, but something like sexuality doesn't seem standardizable since it's probably measured on something like an ordinal scale, although I suppose I'm open to other interpretations if they make sense.

Back to the original question though. I'm bi but prefer men most of the time. I have chosen to be with women at times when I preferred women, and I notice women a lot more than I notice men, but there's just something about male Doms that get me. Male vanillas ... meh. Not so much. Brad Pitt does nothing for me, while Cesar Milan (who is, arguably, not as strikingly handsome) makes me feel all yummy.

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RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? - 7/7/2008 5:56:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is odd. My experience is that most bi females prefer emotional relationships with men, but are open sexually to be with women but that bi males are almost universally much more interested in having their partner be male while being available sexually to be with the occasional woman.

Depends where you look, I guess.

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RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? - 7/7/2008 6:58:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm bi and am 80/20...leaning heavily towards guys. But that's just me and I am still discovering my bi side.

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RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? - 7/7/2008 7:25:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I didn't want to try to categorize people into three sections.  In fact, if I recall correctly, two or three of my posts in this thread were disclaiming how innane that would be.  No need to be scared.

The degree of freedom tangent was in response to someone saying I was trying to "figure out what made someone do something, and not accept that it just was".  It related to a person's "fate" to become bisexual or not (or any other type of sexual).



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RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? - 7/7/2008 7:28:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Don't believe in sexuality. Can't be straight, Gay, Bi, or only wanting apples. It doesn't work. I really think it is who we are willing to open ourselves up to. We can deny finding the same sex interesting on an emotional and sexual level; and if that is the case, wouldn't that make the subject straight if they were only with the opposite sex? I think not. 

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RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? - 7/7/2008 7:46:58 PM   
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Don't believe in sexuality. Can't be straight, Gay, Bi, or only wanting apples. It doesn't work. I really think it is who we are willing to open ourselves up to. We can deny finding the same sex interesting on an emotional and sexual level; and if that is the case, wouldn't that make the subject straight if they were only with the opposite sex? I think not. 

I don't follow.  You don't "believe" in sexuality?  Someone who is homosexual is really just not opening themselves up to being with people of the opposite sex?  All the people in the world against animal sex are really just closed off and denying their interest?

Obviously action does not equate to orientation.  But to suggest that no orientation can exist and that it is all a matter of openness seems to dive off the other end of the cliff.

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RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? - 7/7/2008 7:56:24 PM   
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I've noticed many bi-sexual women tend to be more interested in women than in men.  It's almost as if their sexual preference should read "Women and/or Brad Pitt."
So um... thoughts?

Just about half of the bi women I know are lesbians who have a taste for the occasional man. Anotehr 45% prefer men, with the occasional interest in a woman.
Then there are the 5% that I fall into who are equally attracted to both genders, but tend to be monogamous when involved. Ive had fewer girlfriends than I have boyfriends not because I wanted it that way but because living at home it was too difficult to openly date women.

Funny thing is, I have found that the vast majority of bi-curious younger women tend to be fashion bi... they are saying it to get a guys attention rather than having any real interest in bi acts. Then once they have the guy, if he even suggests the idea of a threesome (which was she was likely hinting at when he found out she was bicurious) she gets outraged that she isnt enough for him, and that he wants to pull someone else into the relationship.  I have seen TONS of that growing up.

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RE: Bi-Sexuality.. No, Really, 50-50? - 7/7/2008 10:49:07 PM   
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Funny thing is, I have found that the vast majority of bi-curious younger women tend to be fashion bi... they are saying it to get a guys attention rather than having any real interest in bi acts. Then once they have the guy, if he even suggests the idea of a threesome (which was she was likely hinting at when he found out she was bicurious) she gets outraged that she isnt enough for him, and that he wants to pull someone else into the relationship.  I have seen TONS of that growing up.

DV



I have found this too. It seems to cause alot of confusion to others. Especially when i come along and really do love a woman's body but want no relationship. I have men either think i am a tease, or grovel at the idea of a threesome and then never want it in reality.

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