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Rule -> RE: Circumcision (7/9/2008 5:52:03 AM)

He may have been lying through his teeth.
 
Anyway he will have contributed to the corruption of the gene pool by having his penis mutilated.



meatcleaver -> RE: Circumcision (7/9/2008 5:53:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

A little circumcision story...
I worked with a woman who was dating a creepy older guy.  They were having a lot of sex.  Two or three times a day.  He was uncircumcised and had no issue with that fact up until he met this woman and all of this sex.  Problems started occuring in the form of his dick becoming extremely raw...redness, bleeding, oozing under the foreskin.  Yes, she gave me way too many details.  Soooo...at the age of 60, this man went and got circumcised.  After a brief week of healing (that was as long as they could wait) they were right back to two or three times a day and his report was that he absolutely loved being circumcised.  He said everything about sex felt so much better and had he known he would have done it years ago. 


Sounds more like he had a sexual desease rather fucking too often. Never in my life have I ever heard of anyone bleeding and becoming extremely raw through too much fucking and just about everyone (apart from Jews or a muslims) are uncircumcized here. I think your friend is having a laugh. I've never been circumcized but a week healing sounds a little short to me. I remember reading one had to wait for three weeks before resuming intercourse.



Aileen1968 -> RE: Circumcision (7/9/2008 5:54:06 AM)

I doubt he was lying.  He seemed very happy.
As for corrupting the gene pool... a little late for that guy.
I'm trying to figure out why you're taking it so personally.  Don't worry...no one's gonna touch your peepee.



thishereboi -> RE: Circumcision (7/9/2008 6:41:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

If you do a search here on "circumcision" you will get 300 results. It's been a hotly debated topic. Let me try to sum it up. Some people prefer circumcision....some don't.


Yea and some people foam at the mouth and swear it will be the end of civilization as we know it, if it's allowed to continue and a few act like someone is going to cut it off with an axe if they don't run fast enough.

Edited to add: or they accuse others of lying, if someone suggests they don't have a problem with it.



Rule -> RE: Circumcision (7/9/2008 7:03:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968
As for corrupting the gene pool... a little late for that guy.

He does not have to have any progeny himself for him to contribute to corruption of the gene pool. Evolutionary processes are not Lamarckian.



windchymes -> RE: Circumcision (7/9/2008 8:50:18 AM)

Just for the record, my sons' father was much more adamant about having them circ'd than I was.  To be honest, I was beginning to lean towards not having it done.

But, in all my years, I've never known a circumcised man or boy to complain because he was.  Doesn't mean they're not out there, but I've never heard one. 

And, judging by how many proud cockshots are displayed on the internet, I don't think too many of them feel "mutilated", either.



Zensee -> RE: Circumcision (7/9/2008 8:58:50 AM)

Let the man decide for himself, when he reaches majority.

Is that so difficult?



Z.



NeedingMore220 -> RE: Circumcision (7/9/2008 9:02:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

If you do a search here on "circumcision" you will get 300 results. It's been a hotly debated topic. Let me try to sum it up. Some people prefer circumcision....some don't.



lol.  You just took all the fun out of it.  [;)]



somethndif -> RE: Circumcision (7/9/2008 9:05:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: willowspirit

It's safer, easier, and less painful on newborns that it is on grown adult men. My father was circumcized when he was in his 60's due to common slow rates of healing and increased infections that are common in aging men. It was horrible for him!
Mom likes the looks of it better now.
(By the way, they deliberately CHOSE  to have both their sons circumcized after they were born.)

There is a statistically significant, but slight,  higher risk of transmitting sexual diseases to woman when a man is uncircumcized. But, hey, caring for women's health isn't much of a priorty to some cultures -- (rolls eyes !)

Personally, I am not at all interested in giving oral to a man who is NOT circumcized.
It's that stuff... what's it called??? That ooze to lubricate the inside of the foreskin --____-  Schmec  or something --starts with an "s"...
No ! Not "semen"  or "sperm" -- it is yukky stuff! smells bad -- tastes worse! Bitter ...they say.... That's why I don't care to go that way.
I've yet  to see a "turtlenecked" penis. Crewneck ones are so nice -- that cute rimmed edge... like  a cap of a mushroom -- But  without any of that "fungus" !!
LOL 


Its called smegma.

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smeg·ma [image]http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png[/image] 

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–noun

a thick, cheeselike, sebaceous secretion that collects beneath the foreskin or around the clitoris.

[Origin: 1810–20; < L < Gk smêgma unguent, soap, cleansing medicine[image]http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png[/image]]

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Dan



cjan -> RE: Circumcision (7/9/2008 9:27:05 AM)

Lather, rinse ,repeat. That's not so hard now, is it ?

The argument that cut cocks are somehow cleaner doesn't hold water. I would think, and hope, that those who are cut pay the same kind of attention to keeping clean as the uncut.

This debate from the female side who worry about cleanliness and STD transmittal from the uncut is particularly absurd. Y'all with the internal plumbing must know that proper hygiene and prudence in sexual practices is, or should be,  a no brainer and all that is required.

For those who are squicked by the uncut, I say, " don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, baby". If you're that shallow, I wouldn't put my dick in you anyway.



hopelessfool -> RE: Circumcision (7/9/2008 9:43:58 AM)

As a daily devotee to the House and Worship of the Male Gentials. I have to say this....


Kitten Loves cock, Cut cock, uncut cock, long cock, short cock. skinny cock, fat cock... plastic cock, it doesnt matter as long as it is in the shape of a penis.

The only difference in cock (that kitten has found) Uncut cock  the heads are more sensitive and tend to be less able to take more then a couple of hours of oral pleasure. Also Ive (Not sure if its a corralation or not) that uncut cock tends to not enjoy having their balls sucked as much as their cut counter parts. Kitten has also founed in Cut men the pernium (sp) the small grouping of skin behind the balls is more sensitve then their uncut counterparts.

Personally If I could have my way... Id have a cock of every color shape and size... but seeing as this is not allowed to her at the moment. Ill settle for anyone I can worship vigialntly.



RCdc -> RE: Circumcision (7/9/2008 9:49:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: cjan

For those who are squicked by the uncut, I say, " don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, baby". If you're that shallow, I wouldn't put my dick in you anyway.



I would forget the shallowness, if someone is that naive to think cut is cleaner, that would make me put my dick away quickly.(If I had one[;)]) Next thing you'll know, they will be telling you that the withdrawl method is the best...honest.[8|]
 
the.dark.



somethndif -> RE: Circumcision (7/9/2008 10:03:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: cjan

Lather, rinse ,repeat. That's not so hard now, is it ?

The argument that cut cocks are somehow cleaner doesn't hold water. I would think, and hope, that those who are cut pay the same kind of attention to keeping clean as the uncut.

This debate from the female side who worry about cleanliness and STD transmittal from the uncut is particularly absurd. Y'all with the internal plumbing must know that proper hygiene and prudence in sexual practices is, or should be,  a no brainer and all that is required.

For those who are squicked by the uncut, I say, " don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, baby". If you're that shallow, I wouldn't put my dick in you anyway.


Nope, its not absurd.  Of course don't let facts get in the way of your beliefs.

Here is the first post from a thread I started in January 2007. 

I have seen other threads discussing the pros and cons of male circumcision.   Recent studies show that circumcised men significantly reduce their chances of contracting the HIV virus and, of course, AIDS.
 
I think this is important information.  Here is the first paragraph from a news report and the link to the full story.

Policy Updates - December 2006

National Institutes of Health Halts Two Studies on Male Circumcision and HIV
On Wednesday, December 13, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) announced it was stopping two clinical trials in Kenya and Uganda examining potential protective effects of male circumcision against HIV infection.1  According to data released by NIH, male circumcision was found to reduce a man’s risk of acquiring HIV by up to 50%.  Over 6,000 previously uncircumcised men ages 15–49 from Uganda and Kenya were enrolled in the study; half of the participants were randomly assigned to be circumcised and the other half acted as a control group, remaining uncircumcised.  The results of the study were so significant that researchers halted the study early and offered circumcision to all participants.
 
http://www.siecus.org/policy/PUpdates/pdate0297.html
 
Dan



RCdc -> RE: Circumcision (7/9/2008 10:08:52 AM)

And I will repeat and ask you again the last time you posted about this.  You do realise this is about homosexual males and NOT hetro, and those in a less than sanitary environment?
 
You did not answer me last time either.
 
the.dark.



hopelessfool -> RE: Circumcision (7/9/2008 10:10:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: somethndif

The results of the study were so significant that researchers halted the study early and offered circumcision to all participants.
 
http://www.siecus.org/policy/PUpdates/pdate0297.html
 
Dan


Wait So you base your opinion on a study that was stopped early... How do you know it wasnt just a fluke that these men didnt get aids, that they simply did not have sex during the study period?  Or that the men who were uncut, were not already infected just not showing signs.

The truth is, its not the forskin or lack of forskin that causes STDs... Its shoving it in holes that arent clean, and std testing being around 300 dollars for a basic panel that only half of the insurences cover.

If Std testing were cheaper say 20 dollar, or even free for most of hte population STDs would go down.

Just remember, All penises need love, unless loving that penis will kill you. Its not its size or shape or color that is important, its not its skin or lack there of... its the penis thats important and we must love all penis equally.



somethndif -> RE: Circumcision (7/9/2008 10:25:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

And I will repeat and ask you again the last time you posted about this.  You do realise this is about homosexual males and NOT hetro, and those in a less than sanitary environment?
 
You did not answer me last time either.
 
the.dark.


No, the studies were not about homosexual males.  But I can't read them for you.  You have to do that yourself.  Of course that might interfere with your irrational, personal beliefs.  It is undisputed that circumcision reduces the risk of contracting AIDS in both heterosexual and homosexual men.

Just for the hell of it, I looked at the United States Centers for Disease Control website, just to see what CDC is saying right now about circumcision.

Here is a paragraph from the CDC website about circumcision and other STD's, not AIDS.

"Lack of male circumcision has also been associated with sexually transmitted genital ulcer disease and chlamydia, infant urinary tract infections, penile cancer, and cervical cancer in female partners of uncircumcised men. The latter two conditions are related to human papillomavirus (HPV) infection. Transmission of this virus is also associated with lack of male circumcision. A recent meta-analysis included 26 studies that assessed the association between male circumcision and risk for genital ulcer disease. The analysis concluded that there was a significantly lower risk for syphilis and chancroid among circumcised men, whereas the reduced risk of herpes simplex virus type 2 infection had a borderline statistical significance."

So, it appears that the FACTS indicate that circumcision lowers the risk of almost all STD's.

Here is the link to the CDC fact sheet.    http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/circumcision.htm

But you probably won't read that, either.

Dan



somethndif -> RE: Circumcision (7/9/2008 10:31:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: hopelessfool

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ORIGINAL: somethndif

The results of the study were so significant that researchers halted the study early and offered circumcision to all participants.
 
http://www.siecus.org/policy/PUpdates/pdate0297.html
 
Dan


Wait So you base your opinion on a study that was stopped early... How do you know it wasnt just a fluke that these men didnt get aids, that they simply did not have sex during the study period?  Or that the men who were uncut, were not already infected just not showing signs.

The truth is, its not the forskin or lack of forskin that causes STDs... Its shoving it in holes that arent clean, and std testing being around 300 dollars for a basic panel that only half of the insurences cover.

If Std testing were cheaper say 20 dollar, or even free for most of hte population STDs would go down.

Just remember, All penises need love, unless loving that penis will kill you. Its not its size or shape or color that is important, its not its skin or lack there of... its the penis thats important and we must love all penis equally.


Your screen name suits you. 

The studies were stopped because the interim results were so clear and so significant, that it would have been unethical to continue them without offering circumcision to the men who at the beginning of the study were assigned to the uncircumcised group.  Why?  Because circumcision will keep a significant number of them from contracting AIDS.

Dan




Rule -> RE: Circumcision (7/9/2008 10:33:50 AM)

FR
 
Sure, a mutilated penis does reduce the chance of getting and transmitting sexually transmitted diseases. So every gene pool has got a choice: either mutilate the penises of their males and incur the curse of the Creator of congenitally inherited diseases unto the seventh generation (and be a gene pool loser), or to accept a risk of some individuals getting sexually transmitted diseases and have the gene pool be blessed by the Creator (i.e. be a gene pool winner).
 
I think that it is best for the gene pool when women boycot all men with mutilated penises. That will end that sacrilegious practice within a very short time. Actually such men should be prosecuted - and their parents as well.



RCdc -> RE: Circumcision (7/9/2008 10:44:03 AM)

I have read the study.  I even looked into the study - have you?
I would urge anyone however to not just look at the paragraph you gave, but to read the entire study (which was incomplete) and the back source.
 
And btw, it is pretty much agreed that circumcized children do not benefit.  So by all means, be circumcised as an adult if that is your choice.
 
Above all, I loathe stories like this.  Circumcision stops the spread of HIV?  Yes of course, lets all get circumcised and HIV would disappear.  Because obviously, it's really worked in the states recently - if at all - hasn't it????
Forget safe sex and reliable precautions.  Forget barrier methods, condoms and testing. Let advocate mutilating small children instead and diseases will all go poof!
 
And for the record, the only man I refused to have sex with because he suffered from excessive 'discharge' was cut and it was exceedingly gross.
 
That said, I have had sex with both cut and uncut - but only when they were clean and kept absolutely in top hygiene.
 
the.dark.



hopelessfool -> RE: Circumcision (7/9/2008 10:48:54 AM)

Well I know that HIV can take in some people up to a year to show signs of...

So were the men kept from sexual encounters for over a year before the study was preformed. Were all people involved in the study regulated. How do you know that the men with uncut cocks.... didnt already have the virus.. And keep the ones who were cut wernt kept from having sexual activity.

Do not tell me "people of science wouldnt do that" people manipulate findings all the time to suit what it is they believe and want to prove.

I personally do not care if my cock is cut uncut long short fat skinny.... its color its size its shape. The only thing I care about when it comes to cock is when was its last sexual encounter, and when was it last tested.

Other then that All cocks get equal love when it comes to me.



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