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RE: reactions to rope - 7/9/2008 10:23:31 PM

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Would you two get a fucking room, preferably room 69 down the hall where I have a two way window and tons of popcorn for the rest of us.

I'll take two copies in MPEG4 format on DVD, and one master on mini-DV.

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RE: reactions to rope - 7/9/2008 10:25:12 PM

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we are selling tickets now?

Soft's Bithday Beats should be a best seller ...

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RE: reactions to rope - 7/10/2008 1:57:41 AM

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we are selling tickets now?

Soft's Bithday Beats should be a best seller ...

this is an educational event, right? so i can watch?? where's the popcorn!?

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RE: reactions to rope - 7/10/2008 1:15:37 PM

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Here you go, Angel.

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RE: reactions to rope - 7/11/2008 8:43:36 AM

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I love bondage, rope especially tends to send me straight into subspace. When I was with my ex Master I often slept with my wrists loosely tied to a bedpost, it always resulted in a good night's sleep.

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RE: reactions to rope - 7/11/2008 11:27:19 AM

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I have only just begun learning shibari techniques. Last night I tied her into a snug little harness with a few knots in the right places. At first she seemed impatient, as it took a long time to get enough rope on for her to feel like she was really in bondage. But as some point after the crotch rope was in place, as the vibrations of the rope as it passed through one loop after another and the remaining length of rope was slowly pulled through (so as to avoid giving her a friction burn) seemed to be holding and focusing her attention, her breathing changed and she started to get this glassy-eyed look that I found just too sexy for words. As I am still a beginner at this new art though, I kept things relatively simple and the whole process took only just over a half hour, after which I ran out of rope and had to use standard cuffs to hold her into the sort of slightly off-balance and awkward position I have read seems to have the best aesthetic effect.

We have come to the conclusion we need more rope, and also that I should cinch it a little tighter each time we do a scene of this type until we find what works best for her. I have just talked to her now about whether it made her feel sleepy and she said she did feel sleepy, but then it was quite late at night, so she could not say if it was the rope or the time, and also that she was unsure that she would be able to sleep at all with all those little knots pressing into her (so far I have only bound her in upright positions, so she has not had experience with that yet). I suppose that will be the next thing I try with her.

Now I have two questions that I think are on topic here. I will not sleep while she is bound like that, but I would like her to experience sleeping in bondage and to discover if she also experiences the feeling of security that I see in many responses here. Assuming I do not tie her so tightly as to cause problems with circulation or crush nerve endings, how long can I let her sleep before I need to change her position? And also; will she still be able to get to sleep that night or will this separate our sleeping schedules significantly?

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RE: reactions to rope - 7/11/2008 4:51:05 PM

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I don't get sleepy but I get really relaxed, like a rag doll. If brought to a standing position he has to have me leaning against the bed or wall while doing my legs because otherwise I start swaying and need him to stop me from toppling over.

And yes, I'm aroused almost before I'm tied. If the ropes are all tangled and he slowly untangles them while letting them drop on me, coil by coil, he doesn't need to proceed to tying because I'll be on the verge of orgasm as is. Of course he does but that's something else.

As far as no deep breaths, that sounds normal if it's a chest harness or rope bra, the rope was probably too tight to allow the chest to expand fully.

It's afterwards that I pass out. But 20 orgasms are a lot of expended energy.

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RE: reactions to rope - 7/11/2008 5:13:19 PM

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Maxwell67: I usually slept tied just at the wrists, with enough slack to the bedpost to allow me to roll over in my sleep. I never had any problems, the rope was loose enough for circulation, and I slept all night just fine. My Master slept with me after the first time, so sleep patterns shouldn't be a big problem. If you want her immobilised I wouldn't leave her sleep that long though, and ymmv.

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RE: reactions to rope - 7/11/2008 5:17:30 PM

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As far as no deep breaths, that sounds normal if it's a chest harness or rope bra, the rope was probably too tight to allow the chest to expand fully.

Now this much I do know, the lack of deep breath has little to do with the chest harness, it is the one around the midriff that keeps you from breathing deeply, since normally this is cinched pretty tightly, the movement of your diaphragm is restricted. That is what forces you to take shallow breaths. No amount of chest expansion can make up for the loss of mobility in the diaphragm, where breath is concerned. On the other hand, if you were wearing only a tightly cinched chest harness that did not drop past your rib cage, you would still be able to inhale relatively deeply with no trouble.

The tightness of the bondage is a major concern for me and I am always checking that I can easily fit a few fingers between the rope and the flesh without it being uncomfortable for her. I know that part of the appeal is the very intricate and restrictive bondage, and I can see that those used to it seem to like it nice and tight, but that is something I will have to work toward slowly. The thing that concerns me is that I would like to be able to leave her in this kind of bondage for a while.. a few hours at least, and if it is too tight and constricts her blood flow too much, then I might have to undo a great deal of work to adjust that one spot, or worse, cut the ropes off her to restore circulation. Learning this sort of work really well is going to take some time, but it is already proving very rewarding.

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RE: reactions to rope - 7/11/2008 5:27:49 PM

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Maxwell67: I usually slept tied just at the wrists, with enough slack to the bedpost to allow me to roll over in my sleep. I never had any problems, the rope was loose enough for circulation, and I slept all night just fine. My Master slept with me after the first time, so sleep patterns shouldn't be a big problem. If you want her immobilised I wouldn't leave her sleep that long though, and ymmv.

Thanks for this info, afterforever. I don't think she will be able to sleep that way immediately, but I will give it a try. I am thinking, however, that once she is conditioned to the rope, that I may be able to bind only her wrists and get the kind of reaction I want (that, is I think with only the feel of rope on her wrists, mental bondage will accomplish the rest.)

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RE: reactions to rope - 7/11/2008 5:40:45 PM

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it can be a very great comfort.a small loss of liberty in real terms but mentally it provides......

in my humble opinion

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RE: reactions to rope - 7/12/2008 7:16:46 PM

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As far as no deep breaths, that sounds normal if it's a chest harness or rope bra, the rope was probably too tight to allow the chest to expand fully.

Now this much I do know, the lack of deep breath has little to do with the chest harness, it is the one around the midriff that keeps you from breathing deeply, since normally this is cinched pretty tightly, the movement of your diaphragm is restricted. That is what forces you to take shallow breaths. No amount of chest expansion can make up for the loss of mobility in the diaphragm, where breath is concerned. On the other hand, if you were wearing only a tightly cinched chest harness that did not drop past your rib cage, you would still be able to inhale relatively deeply with no trouble.

That's only true if she is a person who breathes deeply but most people only take shallow breaths. Women especially learn to breathe only from the chest so that our stomachs don't push out. One of the first things they do in yoga is teach you to breathe from the diaghragm.

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RE: reactions to rope - 7/12/2008 9:05:25 PM

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The tightness of the bondage is a major concern for me and I am always checking that I can easily fit a few fingers between the rope and the flesh without it being uncomfortable for her. I know that part of the appeal is the very intricate and restrictive bondage, and I can see that those used to it seem to like it nice and tight, but that is something I will have to work toward slowly. The thing that concerns me is that I would like to be able to leave her in this kind of bondage for a while.. a few hours at least, and if it is too tight and constricts her blood flow too much, then I might have to undo a great deal of work to adjust that one spot, or worse, cut the ropes off her to restore circulation. Learning this sort of work really well is going to take some time, but it is already proving very rewarding.

I had the OP in a reasonably tight yet comfortable chest harness for 3 or 4 hours. I like taking the extra rope and wrapping it around one of the previous ropes in the back, this makes a nice "handle" to just grab her by and lead/gently toss her around by. She seems to like being man-handled a bit. Experiment with each other -- safely! Remember to keep your EMT sheers handy!

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RE: reactions to rope - 7/12/2008 9:11:17 PM

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i love shibari.. and though i am still in the begining phases i enjoy it as tight and as long as i can possibly be allowed... i was lucky to find a friend who was skilled in the art and also knew how to help me grow and strengthen building my endurance. for me the tighter i am bound the freer i have felt

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RE: reactions to rope - 7/12/2008 9:25:26 PM

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i love rope as well, whether i'm relaxed or not while i'm tied depends on what else is going on and if i'm really lucky, i'll have lovely rope burns all over my body when He unties me.

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RE: reactions to rope - 7/12/2008 9:33:09 PM

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and if i'm really lucky, i'll have lovely rope burns all over my body when He unties me.

You surely mean rope marks? Rope burn isn't so good! Rope marks (like so: http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1417/1428343444_eb4ad9a6d4.jpg?v=0 ) are normal!

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RE: reactions to rope - 7/12/2008 9:39:33 PM

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yup rope marks are normal, i happen to like a more severe form of rope "mark". i call it burn, i'm not worried about being techincal about what i call my kinks....to me it's a rope burn when it hurts for a week and scabs over.

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RE: reactions to rope - 7/12/2008 9:47:09 PM

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yup rope marks are normal, i happen to like a more severe form of rope "mark". i call it burn, i'm not worried about being techincal about what i call my kinks....to me it's a rope burn when it hurts for a week and scabs over.

yea nothing like having the braided imprinting on the skin to brighten the day

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