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RE: Expectations - friends - ambition - 7/13/2008 1:24:49 PM   
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Others, I had to do a jumpthrough on this. Cammille, peach and DA, here it goes. I'll have to get to everybody else in a little while, but excellent points all.

DA, you are starting to make Russia look pretty good. But I wasn't necessarily talking about a fighter jet. I saw a documentary (don't go there, I know) where it was either a Korean fighter or someone who engaged one of our best. In a dogfight like that, they say go high. If you lose track of the enemy go high. Well both of these guys did, and unbeknonst to each other, they were going straight up belly to belly.

That kind of power impresses me, ain't no Cessna here, and even thinking of the fuel cost makes my right pocket hurt (that is where I keep my wallet). I really don't think I need quite that experience. But what you said makes me think that is if I were to go to Russia and buy my way past the training, I might not need the return flight. If, since I am not sure why I even want to do this, if I am doing it for the memory, it might be a waste of time.

So if it is sixteen hundred bucks an hour, fine. But what, I have to get dunked, go in a centrifuge and all this shit ? I do not have the time for that. A twenty minute flight might do me well, even if they charge for a full hour. Fine. But realize this, when I negotiated my last few jobs, I traded everything for what I endearingly term "all my money now". That means I have no paid vacations or anything, so on top of paying for this I am losing money every day. I can't go through six months of torture to see if I will survive if shit happens. If shit happens then it does. I know how to follow instructions in an environment such as that, and I am not stupid (I think). If there is a way, I would like to do it, but if it is beyond my means, oh well. I will not mortgage the house to do it.

cammille and peach, I here ya. I really do. It is not, however, the explanation of life. If we do not judge others by our own standards, how are we to judge them ? I understand what you are saying, but it does render that question. While I may express and have dismay over the stupid things my friends do, I don't abandon them. My only requirements are total fucking honesty with me and to be fair and square with me. But some of them have such a soap opera going on, that if an issue warrants a phone call, I am not interested, a visit, fine.

More on judging later, it is getting to be time to go get beer, being Sunday and all but I will leave you with this for now.

They say judge not lest ye be judged yourself. Alot of people take that to mean that you should not judge others. I obviously do not concur. The way I see it, anytime my phone rings or someone shows up at the door I have been judged worthy of contacting. When I go to work I am constantly judged. That saying never meant that you should not judge others.

But how to set my criteria for what is acceptable and what is not, that is the problem. Money isn't it, knowledge, well I know a guy that can get a job making $90,000 a year, but when he gets the first check he goes on a crack binge, to the point where toward the end he would sell a new car for five hundred bucks. How would you judge him ?

candy is right, I think I need a better class of friends, or maybe worse. Those truly without opportunity. At least they might listen and learn something. Fuckin A right. Maybe I should head down instead of up. Guy gets a better fucking job than I could and then loses it as soon as he gets his first paycheck. I get a guy a job where he could have made a hundred grand a year but he gets so destitute he is pawning company property and stealing utilities. Then his old/new boss gets out of jail and things change, and this guy is a complete idiot.

Maybe I should look for people who really were denied opportunity. I am sick of people fucking up. I am sick of them not paying attention to their lives. And I am sick of working when it seems alot of other people get to sit around and do drugs and shit. Not that I have anythng against that JUST DO IT AFTER WORK GODDAMMIT.

People's oladies, their stupid issues, my counselling, loaning, helping, fixing, I AM FUCKING SICK OF IT. I did it because I thought these people had potential, but again and again I am proven wrong.

Maybe I will go to Russia, fly a Mig or something, and maybe I won't need the return flight. And maybe I don't care.

T

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RE: Expectations - friends - ambition - 7/13/2008 2:14:20 PM   
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Term, you will at the very least have to go through a morning of training for an afternoon ride. There are several places in the USA where you can get a ride in an L-39. You dont necessarily have to go through the dunking etc, I required it because the "aerobatic box" we fly in is over water.. If you fly from any of several operators in the Mohave you will obviously not need water survival training. There are shortcuts you can take to "just get a ride", however I question the wisdom of that. An operator who wont require extensive training probably has the ejection seats disabled etc... Personally, I wouldnt get in a tactical jet without a live ejection seat but thats me. Lets just say there is a reason I made my gf go through 3 days of training before a ride - losing her would mean more than filing an NTSB report. You will have to wear a parachute as they ae required any time you exceed 60 degrees of bank or 30 degrees of pitch. The time to figure out how to use a parachute is not when you bail out of an aircraft., and the time to try to figure out how to steer and land a canopy is not when you find yourself descending into the powerlines...

Yeah there are shortcuts you can buy to get yourself a short ride. If you take them you are betting you life. I wouldnt. I mean I could have told my gf  "put on this flight suit we are going for a ride" but I didnt because I knew better. The most important skills in flight are aeronautical decision making and risk management.

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RE: Expectations - friends - ambition - 7/13/2008 2:49:24 PM   
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I wanted to suceed and my family seemed to stay stuck.  They wanted to keep me stuck right along with them.  Any friends who were stuck as well... well I went tough love.  You decide, you live with what you decide.  Would I help?  Sure... to a point.  As long as they were improving their lives somehow. If not... tough it out.

I got away... moved across the country and built a life and career.  All went well until I got sick... but I made it out and if I could do it, most can.  It is determination... not greed.  To be something more because it is fulfilling, to learn new things because it is interesting, to go, see, do... that is the fun in life and if it benefits financially all the better.

I love people... but don't always like what they do and if I can't handle what they do, I exit.  So, I am alone sometimes... big deal.  If it bothers you that much... exit... go live your life the way you want to and do what you want to do.

I hope you get to fly!  That sounds amazing!

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RE: Expectations - friends - ambition - 7/13/2008 5:05:03 PM   
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Termy, I'm not saying "don't judge." All humans judge - it's how we develop preferences, etc. The folks who tell you that they don't judge others at All - they're Lying - they judge, they simply keep their mouths shut about the judgements they're making. (At least until they're where the person they're judging can't Hear them!)

What I'm saying is something completely different than that. It's more along the lines of - yeah, go ahead and judge, but do you hold them to Your Standard For Yourself, or just to A Standard? The standards that you expect yourself to maintain can be as high or low as you choose. But they don't necessarily have to be the Same set of standards that you expect Other people to maintain.

My difficulty many times is that I tend to hold people to the same standards that I maintain for Myself. If they can't meet those standards, I have little use for them, and I'm certainly not going to be hanging around with them for very long. The drawback to this is that it tends to significantly limit the number of friends one has. It hasn't bothered me much, because the older I get the more of a loner I am by nature - but one of my best friends is constantly yapping at me about how few people I actually hang out with, and how few people I honestly call my Friends rather than calling them aquaintances.


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RE: Expectations - friends - ambition - 7/13/2008 6:05:39 PM   
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Oh Termy, I forgot one thing about your preflight preparations.... Before you can play fighter pilot for a day, one of the requirements is that you pass a very stringent and difficult eye test. Please look at the following....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Ir0-85irc

Do you see a beautiful little airplane there? If so, you just might have the makings of a fighter jock... If not, youre just any other man LOL

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RE: Expectations - friends - ambition - 7/14/2008 8:00:06 AM   
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DA, there was no airplane, but I do seem to have the stick.

T

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RE: Expectations - friends - ambition - 7/14/2008 1:01:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

DA, there was no airplane, but I do seem to have the stick.

T


Damn Term you failed! See a fighter pilot would say "Eh, as far as the women go Ive had better. But God damn thats a sweet little jet!"

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RE: Expectations - friends - ambition - 7/14/2008 8:28:48 PM   
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        If it must be a jet, and I can understand something like that, then don't even bother clicking the link.  If you are willing to compromise and push whatever buttons need pushing in something propellor driven, these guys will be in your part of the world in late September...

http://www.aircombat.com/

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