Amaros
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ORIGINAL: softness
I couldn't agree more .. though my instincts are telling me that the masochists on this thread are largely not thinking about submission when they confessed their sickest dreams ... I could be wrong ... but they spoke to me of messing around with fear, danger, and pain ... rather than submission, surrender and sacrifice
Submission in the sense of placing yourself at under the power, and discretion of, another - again, I don't want to threadjack, but reciporical altruism is far more developed in humans than in most other species, and this trait is bound to take on symbolic values like any other of our primary traits - sexual desire being another - basically the primary trait - it's not suprising to see the two combined - monogamy is, after all, a sacrifice: one forgoes greater genetic diversity in ones offspring for the protection, resources and parental attention of ones mate, and it is a bit of a tradeoff, quality over quantity.
Once the notion of this sacrifice has been invoked, it's more likely to become tangled up with other symbolic constructs of sacrifice/self sacrifice - in many ways, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't - the urge to be sexually "used" is probobly a trait leftover from the shift to bipedalism which was more or less simultaneous with the loss of estrus - in other words, nobody knew what the hell to do anymore, and the social adaptations appear to have been fairly evenly split between promiscuity and monogamy - with a healthy dose of extracurricular activity on the side naturally - with a fair number of other adaptations on the margins: open relationships (swinging), polygamy, polyandrism, lovers, mistresses, and - BDSM, which in many ways, is a sort of pathology of monogamy, but provides modes of cathartic release that otherwise often leads to less well socialized dysfunctions in socially unbalanced cultures: depression, sociopathy, etc.
Heh, I could go on, but I think you get the drift - it's an imperfect world, you can get nothing except at the cost of something else.
Narcisissm probobly has a lot to do with it too - we live in a heavily Narcisisstic culture, nobody can really escape it - and the self agrandizing Narcissist really wants to be punished because they feel unworthy - the entire pathology is based the attempt to live up to unreasonably high expectations, to be perfect - which is again, in this world, not an option.
Again, BDSM is probobly a healthy way of adapting to a pathalogically Narcisistic condition - it's a purely psychological condition and the cure is a close interpersonal relationship, which is at some point unavoidable no matter what you fantasies may be for all but a few genine sociopaths - and it's a hell of alot more fun than a religious mania or agorophobia.
Anyway, enough Freudian shizznit, I wanna hear some more depraved fantasies - I'm a leg man, but I have a recurring amputation fetish, ever since I saw a picture of woman born with no legs on a Phreak website - I know what that probobly says about me, but damn that's hot.
Don't even get me started on Siamese twins...
< Message edited by Amaros -- 7/30/2008 6:47:20 PM >
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