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dawntreader -> RE: -=Caged Perspectives=- (7/19/2008 10:44:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: eyesopened For me, cages hold no appeal. Because a cage is also a barrier, the bars not only keep someone in, but also keeps someone out. The bars would be a constant reminder that my Master wanted a seperation between us. That would not do my mindset any good at all. Which may sound strange from a total bondage slut. my Master will most likely bind me securely from time to time as i lay in His bed, feeling His body next to mine, where i can feel the warmth of Him and smell His wonderful scent. i am His captive, bound to Him by a love that is stronger than steel. This has been a wonderful thread! While cages typically have no appeal to me for the same reasons eyesopened explained and not because of any phobias, i do have to admit there are aspects of this that are downright erotic. Not too keen on all the comforts of home in the cage, particularly telephone and television...i think it would be a more powerful experience utilizing the mind-fuck aspect and time for introspection, etc...not as a playpen. But i can appreciate diversity[;)] Most likely one of the most erotic bondage experiences i ever had took place in the arms of a dominant lover who after cumming in my mouth, grabbed both wrists in one hand and covered my body with his own and held me there thru the night even while we both slept. i could not move and yet i slept safely and securely in the bondage of flesh...one of my best memories ever [:)] Interesting point Chaz makes about having a safe place to hide or feel safe...i have those places in my mind and while they serve a purpose...to me a connection with another should break those barriers of needing to run and hide. i prefer someone to lock me in their embrace, cum drying on my face, and telling me i have no choice but to remain in their "presence". Thats MY cage time ~

StormsSlave -> RE: -=Caged Perspectives=- (7/20/2008 11:58:23 AM)
Thing is, I'm not claustorphobic. (sorry if I misspell. No spellcheck on the phone.) Nah, I cling to no fears, except a healthy respect for bees. (allergies and all.) I made a decision about my body and my life after being locked in an outhouse with bees. Not so much out of fear as self-preservation. (Dealt with the fear eons ago.) Even with a cell phone, a caged person will be dead from smoke inhalation long before a fireman gets there. A bee sting could kill me in 15 minutes. A prepared intruder would be in the cage before she could pick up the phone. Not to mention the aches and misery I would have from the lack of movement. No one can live life in fear, but I wear my seatbelt, take my vitamins, and eat healthfully to protect my life. Not allowing my life to be endangered so that someone else can prove their dominance over me doesn't mean I am topping from the bottom. It means I am responsible for my own safety. Even dominants make mistakes, and if you tell me you've never made a single mistake with any of your girls in your life, then I know you're full of shit. I hand over my will and submission, not my common sense. Were My Lord to demand this from me, I would accomodate him. It would damage my trust in him, and probably end what we have, as he's already assured me this is not for him. I will be receiving a tattoo as his brand on me, as well as a colllar when we find what we like. This is our way. It sounds like you are upfront with your girls about your expectations. They can always find another dom, no?

kyraofMists -> RE: -=Caged Perspectives=- (7/20/2008 2:21:21 PM)
Here is a repost of the first time I was put in a cage about three years ago: He stripped me outside of the cage and warmed me up with a little “light” flogging and then locked me in the cage flat on my back. I had on leather cuffs at wrist and ankle with D-rings attached. Using rope he secured my hands to the sides of the cage and suspended my feet from the top. My play collar also has D-rings at the front and sides and he used the ones on the sides to keep my head still. Then he proceeded to torment the tiger in the cage with crop, small flogger, clothespins and I do not recall what else he used. The really hot part of the whole scene for me was him stalking around the cage with some toy in hand and never knowing which direction he was going to come at me next. The limited mobility of my head made it difficult to watch him and it just built the anticipation and intensity for me. That night I ripped falls off of a flogger, tried to snatch the crop out of his hand and tried to grab him by the balls. I think the highlight for those watching was when my Lord climbed on top of the cage and tormented me from above (that was when I was able to get my hands on the crop). Finally, he climbed into the cage with me and used his hands and teeth to torture… I think I still have marks from his teeth. Another time he put me in the cage, he had it suspended from the chains in the dungeon. It was actually very soothing because I could rock the cage and relax. He would put me there in between tormenting me during a weekend long play. For the most part I was continually restrained in some way throughout the weekend. I do not get claustrophobic in the cage and I usually find it very comforting. Knight's Kyra

accipitres -> RE: -=Caged Perspectives=- (7/20/2008 4:22:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist As far as your misinterpretation of what I said, don’t be silly… what I said was if you don’t want to get counseling to fix your curable phobia (even those “caused by some really awful confinement experiences as a child”) and that phobia interferes with your ability to conduct a relationship, then it is unacceptable to me. I reiterate, any phobia that interferes with the relationship is unacceptable to me. Um. Would the inability to have a relationship with someone who was NOT in a cage be a "curable phobia"?

Roselaure -> RE: -=Caged Perspectives=- (7/20/2008 5:40:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: accipitres Um. Would the inability to have a relationship with someone who was NOT in a cage be a "curable phobia"? I see a difference between a preference and a phobia. For the record, Idon't see me in a cage voluntarily, but who know? It's not a hard limit for me at all and with the right Dom anything is possible. However, I don't get the impression that RS is afraid or emotionally unable to have a relationship with someone not in a cage, but that it is his strong preference. This being a M/s relationship, and I'm no expert on them, it's HIS preference that is important here and his slaves place to either obey or not consent in the first place.

accipitres -> RE: -=Caged Perspectives=- (7/20/2008 6:05:08 PM)
Actually he says: If a phobia prevents that (the ability to be in a cage), then it prevents* the exchange of my kind of love, passion and sex.* I like men with PhDs; it is a preference. But I really wouldn't say "Brad Pitt! Be gone! You don't have a PhD!" or "Keanu Reeves! Never darken my door again, you educational slacker!" or (gasp) "Denzel! Come back when you have finished graduate school. I cannot fuck your hard smooth luscious body ... you don't have a PhD."

Roselaure -> RE: -=Caged Perspectives=- (7/20/2008 6:20:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: accipitres Actually he says: If a phobia prevents that (the ability to be in a cage), then it prevents* the exchange of my kind of love, passion and sex.* I like men with PhDs; it is a preference. But I really wouldn't say "Brad Pitt! Be gone! You don't have a PhD!" or "Keanu Reeves! Never darken my door again, you educational slacker!" or (gasp) "Denzel! Come back when you have finished graduate school. I cannot fuck your hard smooth luscious body ... you don't have a PhD." So it's a STRONG preference. A slave's inability to obey renders her unsuitable for a relationship with him. To me that indicates that he knows what he wants and is unwilling to settle for less.

accipitres -> RE: -=Caged Perspectives=- (7/21/2008 4:59:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Roselaure So it's a STRONG preference. A slave's inability to obey renders her unsuitable for a relationship with him. To me that indicates that he knows what he wants and is unwilling to settle for less. That is certainly one perspective. I am not into D/s (I just like poking badgers with sticks), so my perspective is bound to be somewhat different than yours.

WinsomeDefiance -> RE: -=Caged Perspectives=- (7/21/2008 6:09:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: accipitres quote: ORIGINAL: Roselaure So it's a STRONG preference. A slave's inability to obey renders her unsuitable for a relationship with him. To me that indicates that he knows what he wants and is unwilling to settle for less. That is certainly one perspective. I am not into D/s (I just like poking badgers with sticks), so my perspective is bound to be somewhat different than yours. Hello Accipetres, First, I miss your picure. It was lovely. Second, thank you for sharing that you aren't into D/s. I had taken note that you tend to reply rather often to Kalon's post, from a negative almost snarky perspective. At first, I had wondered if perhaps you were a jilted lover, stalking him. Now I understand that his flavor of M/s might be something that is so foreign to you, that what I'm picking up on as snarky, is simply a glaring incompatibility. Winsome

meticulousgirl -> RE: -=Caged Perspectives=- (7/21/2008 7:01:56 AM)
i really enjoyed that, and will be looking up those links later, being caged is one of my biggest fantasies mainly because of the surrender, and the mindset......i would absolutely love to experience it. ~meticulous~

accipitres -> RE: -=Caged Perspectives=- (7/21/2008 7:05:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance Second, thank you for sharing that you aren't into D/s. I had taken note that you tend to reply rather often to Kalon's post, from a negative almost snarky perspective. At first, I had wondered if perhaps you were a jilted lover, stalking him. Now I understand that his flavor of M/s might be something that is so foreign to you, that what I'm picking up on as snarky, is simply a glaring incompatibility. Nah. I like Kal. He's a good guy. He's also tough enough to handle disagreement. ALL my posts are snarky. I like being snarky. It is more entertaining than saying "Yes, I agree" and there is always the off chance that some stimulating discussion will arise. Thanks for the comment on the picture.

UglyTruth -> RE: -=Caged Perspectives=- (7/21/2008 7:21:58 AM)
RS, this is a fantastic thread. Thank you for starting it.

StormsSlave -> RE: -=Caged Perspectives=- (7/21/2008 10:52:37 AM)
You don't have to be a Phd to fuck me. You do have to have Phd to take a stab at curing my mental issues. shrug. I don't trust them, either, but call it self-preservation.

ResidentSadist -> RE: -=Caged Perspectives=- (7/21/2008 10:43:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SilentTigresss My goodness! i enjoyed every angle, every bit of this thread. Will leave it at that, without doing into long details. But, first, thank you Resident for the seed that planted all this. i do have a question i'd like to ask your opinion on......... what about a dog kennel ? Even if to just start out with/on? i can make it pretty and all.... When you talk about a kennel I presume you’re talking about a large animal cage not the permanent fenced in structure. I love the idea of kennels and they are a lot cheaper, they’re easier to store and 100 times easier to move, set up and teardown. I even like the idea of the bamboo tiger cages. I would have responded to your post earlier but I have been desperately digging through my links trying to find the girl here on Collarme that contacted me because she saw Spongebob in my red cage. She sleeps in a dog kennel that is also decorated with Spongebob paraphernalia. She spends a lot of time in her dog kennel and it is a regular part of her life. I wanted to call her to this thread to answer your query. But, alas, but could not find her. I do not have much experience with kennels. 20 years ago I used to have a 15ft. long Burmese python and kept it in very large animal cage. If my ex slave tamara had an “affinity” for animals and snakes. The kennel time she spent was usually in role play and quite often included the snake. It wasn’t “cage time” like the original post in this thread describes. The only thing I can foresee as being different, is that a large cage with steel bars can have cell like properties. I can only imagine that a large animal cage made with thick fencing/thick wire, six gauge or better, might have the same impenetrable feeling that thick cold steel bars do. But as I said, I don’t have that much experience with kennels and I have no experience with long term caging in a dog kennel. As mentioned in an earlier reply, I've seen large animal cages on the bay for as little as $50.00. That is an awful big BDSM bang for the buck!!!

ResidentSadist -> RE: -=Caged Perspectives=- (7/21/2008 10:53:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: accipitres quote: ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist As far as your misinterpretation of what I said, don’t be silly… what I said was if you don’t want to get counseling to fix your curable phobia (even those “caused by some really awful confinement experiences as a child”) and that phobia interferes with your ability to conduct a relationship, then it is unacceptable to me. I reiterate, any phobia that interferes with the relationship is unacceptable to me. Um. Would the inability to have a relationship with someone who was NOT in a cage be a "curable phobia"? You are such a little smartass. When you were laying in my bed with my knife to your throat while I explained that the cage was my favorite tool as you gazed at it, you didn’t seem to think of it as an impairment then. I believe that was right after you had made an equally smartass comment in my room about all that gear. Love you too sweetheart! xoxo

CruelDesires -> RE: -=Caged Perspectives=- (7/22/2008 4:39:41 PM)
I would have a "In case of emergency, break glass" key next to the cage. But... I would make sure that the caged person would be released if the broke that glass for a frivolous or IMO unnecessary reason. Just like the S.E.A.L.'s do. Ring that bell and you can stop what you are doing.. but you better roll your bunk and be out the door in twenty four. CD

corsetgirl -> RE: -=Caged Perspectives=- (7/22/2008 7:08:00 PM)
Quote From Resident Sadist: -=My Lil Red Cage=- My cage has been a sanctuary, a shelter, a refuge, a comfort and to one girl it literal was a “home” for 6 months. It has been a monument to love, a symbol of trust and a test of faith. It has been a tool to open minds, deconstruct personalities and then reconstruct them. That cage has been a hammer, anvil and a forge that melted, shaped and strengthen the constitution of more than one slave and relationship. That cage has been an adventure into some very, very dark fantasy and role play. Dark even by my standards! That cage has transformed humans into objects. It has transformed masochists into “its” to be beaten and tortured. It has transformed females into mere “things” to be fucked and used by anyone of any sex or species that Master chooses. It has transformed freedom lovers into captive “prisoners” to serve their captor’s dark desires. It has transformed young girls into non-speaking “animals” trained as obedient and sexy pets. But best of all, that cage has transformed some of my partners into loving and respectful slaves that learned to cherish the relationship. [/quote] That part is what really gets me going about cages. Perhaps the reason why girls like red cages is because red stands for passion? I don't know, I am not a psychologist but I have read about the symbolism of colors To be provided with internet, DVD's, food and drink, plus a telephone is really not bad for the caged submissive and that you have thought out the safety factors. I would probably want to have a journal and also a CD player with headphones to listen to some music. I also like to do some writing. Oh and yes, I would not mind being that obedient pet who pleases her master or others at his choosing. I have never thought about the appeal of having a cage but....mmmmm...I am drooling! The thing is that I am not a masochist, either but look at it as a sensual, controlling environment that binds the slave to the master! [:D]

variation30 -> RE: -=Caged Perspectives=- (7/22/2008 10:14:02 PM)
A+ thread.

Prinsexx -> RE: -=Caged Perspectives=- (7/22/2008 11:41:53 PM)
now why did your OP on cages and orgasm joirnals have to be the first thread i openeed this morning??? as there are too mamy teens in the house to make a cage practical i will just go straight to the orgasm part ok? [:D]

GreedyTop -> RE: -=Caged Perspectives=- (7/22/2008 11:42:50 PM)
totally adore the new pic, Prinny!!

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