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Venatrix -> RE: capitils (7/17/2008 10:47:17 AM)

FR - My dominance is not predicated on the asinine buggering around with the standard rules of grammar and such.  I think less of people who are slaves to this ridiculous practice no matter which side of the slash they're on.  So there.




Shawn1066 -> RE: capitils (7/17/2008 10:52:05 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

I do so love that pic, Shawn :)

shadow.. as has been pointed out, the capital thing is really an internet thing..

I prefer to use proper capitalization for nouns...I don't think it has any bearing on how much of whatever I am, and I dont see it as an indicator of how weal/twue/experienced anyone else is..


Why thank you Greedy, I really do appreciate the compliment. *blush*

And to clarify my previous statement, because sometimes I focus a touch too much on snark...  I have nothing against people who love protocol and such.  After all, I love the functional protocol that my Owner and I have.  However, my only problem with it is when people use it as the end all be all of everything.

DV's Fox




CallaFirestormBW -> RE: capitils (7/17/2008 11:04:43 AM)

I capitalize my name according to how it is capitalized IRL. I did so even back in the day, when I was on all fours "earning my crop", and it's a point of interest that I was never commanded to lowercase my name... but I did become quite skilled at graceful 3rd-person speech (which can be amazingly awkward if not properly done). That capacity in 3rd person speech has come in quite handy, now that I write and edit manuscripts for professional scientific and medical journals, where 1st and 2nd person references are frowned upon.

I am a "grammar Nazi" and a "word freak", and if I hadn't spent as much time as I have online, I would still be looking askance at the unusual spelling and capitalization habits of the "online generation". As it is, I've come to learn that, except in certain online venues, there is little or no correlation between a capitalized name and the orientation (gender, power, or otherwise) of the bearer.

Calla Firestorm Bladewing-Weaver




mistoferin -> RE: capitils (7/17/2008 12:03:14 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: shadowcd

i notice there are  Dom/Dommes on here that do not capitalize their name, and a few subs that do capitalize theirs.   i suppose if someone is new when they open the account they may not even think about it when they create the account.  Regardless of the reason though i notice that if a D has their name without capital i just automatically take them less seriously as a D.  Perhaps it's just cause i view them as less experienced, i'm not sure exactly the reasoning perhaps because it shows they are not familiar with various aspects or protocols which creates trust issues.   i don't claim to know much about protocols  and i'm definitely not very good at the entire capilitizing and such however i'm a submissive and am willing to be trained in anything protocols, rules or anything else for that matter a D wishes of me.   
So i am curious what others think when they see a Dom/Domme with lowercased name, if it changes your first impression and overall view of them?


It's funny to me that you, and many others, believe this. When I see people who are doing the capital thing and the slashy speak thing, it tells me that they likely came into this lifestyle via the internet. So I see them as less experienced. Believe me, there were a whole bunch of us involved in this a long time before anyone got this capitalizing idea and decided to make it some sort of statement on position or respect. I don't cap my name on here...but it has nothing to do with my orientation. I got into a habit of filling out online order forms with no caps...I don't cap my last name either when I do them...or my street name...or the name of my town. I've never had a package show up without the proper capitalization as a result...and it allows me to avoid messing with the shift key so much. In my day to day life...I always capitalize my name.




batshalom -> RE: capitils (7/17/2008 12:18:29 PM)

I'm a lazy typist. Sometimes I capitalize, sometimes not. It appears that when I typed in my nic here I was being lazy - I don't think it was intentional (but you just never know, since besides being lazy I'm also rather forgetful).

Yep. I'm a real prize. heh.




stella41b -> RE: capitils (7/17/2008 12:57:41 PM)

If I didn't use capital letters
Would you still submit to me?
For it's hard sometimes to make sense
Of so many folks here on Collarme
If I wrote my name with big letters
Would I be to you the same
Cos I know that I'm dominant
And I'm not into playing word games
Oooh and I'm not into word games
And I'm not into word games
Lord knows I can't change

By the way I find it surprising
That N/nobody H/has M/mentioned slashy speak
Please don't hold your breath though, this is Collarme
And we all know that thread will appear sometime next week
If I wrote my name in big letters
Would some see me as the same
Cos I know that I'm dominant
And I'm not into playing word games
Ohhh not into playing these word games
And this Dom you cannot change
Lord knows I don't do word games
Lord help me, I'm now insane
Lord I can't change
Going back to Castle Realm

(bloody long guitar solo)

with apologies to Lynyrd Skynyrd




Owner4SexSlave -> RE: capitils (7/17/2008 1:18:43 PM)

The whole lower vs. upper case lettering thing.   I think many people are D/s aware when it comes to the use of letters in names online.  

However, certain letters at the start of specific names, well just look better and feel better to use.  I have a bad habit of using case to Stress importance of Certain words.

There are times when I simply use a lot of lower cases.  So what if I happen to type of dom instead of Dom in an IM chat.  At times, it's best to simple read words as words and not attempt to read too much into the case of lettering.




underling3 -> RE: capitils (7/17/2008 1:48:50 PM)

And, pray tell, how does a SsWwIiTtCcHh use the alphabet?




eyesopened -> RE: capitils (7/17/2008 1:51:35 PM)

Since my name isn't "eyesopened" i don't capitalize it nor any reference to myself when on this forum.  *shrug*  i know it bothers some people but i don't care.  i personally don't like the slashy typing nor referring to oneself in the third person but i don't judge those people as being lesser or inexperienced or anything other than excercising their personal preference.  While i have a hard time believing someone would be at the deli saying "The girl would like a half pound of the corned beef"  who am i to care one way or the other?  It would make a trip to the deli more interesting, perhaps.

If a Dominant doesn't use capitals, well, that's his preference.  *shrug*  it's meaningless to the more important things like character, integrity, honesty and compassion.

How does one 'capitalize' in speaking face to face?  By tone, inflection, gaze, and body language.  The things that are missing from this method of communication.




Lumus -> RE: capitils (7/17/2008 2:01:42 PM)

Most people's first forays into "the lifestyle" online eventually take them to a place where caps and lower case are used, as well as "slashy-speak".

Frankly I like the idea of making someone think before they type anything online; we actually have that option in this medium, unlike talking in real life!  Yes, it can seem convoluted; yes, it might hurt a person's eyes or confound them at times.  If it works for them, I say, all the power to them.  At least it has structure and rules, which make more sense than some grammar rules for the English language...

[/end rant on the "acceptability" of unconventional grammar]

To directly answer the OP:  I don't let a person's name influence what I think of them.  I used to, when I was younger.  What changed for me was the actual internalization of the lip service I had, up to that point, given the idea of judging a person for what they are instead of their labels.  Funny how we can catch ourselves doing and being something completely different than what we perceived...  To wit, if a person acts like an ass to me, I think of them as an ass - and their name doesn't factor into the equation.  If it did, I'd assume everyone with the same name as my boss[es] at work were retarded beyond redemption.

Cheers.




Evility -> RE: capitils (7/17/2008 2:09:37 PM)

I view screen names as a personal statement of sorts so I do not put any real weight into the capitalization thing concerning them. If a dom wants to go with a lower case screen name I have no issue with that. However, when I see doms capitalize their own personal pronouns I view that as being just a tad on the haughty side.




RumpusParable -> RE: capitils (7/17/2008 2:36:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: shadowcd

i notice there are  Dom/Dommes on here that do not capitalize their name, and a few subs that do capitalize theirs.   i suppose if someone is new when they open the account they may not even think about it when they create the account.  Regardless of the reason though i notice that if a D has their name without capital i just automatically take them less seriously as a D.  Perhaps it's just cause i view them as less experienced, i'm not sure exactly the reasoning perhaps because it shows they are not familiar with various aspects or protocols which creates trust issues.   i don't claim to know much about protocols  and i'm definitely not very good at the entire capilitizing and such however i'm a submissive and am willing to be trained in anything protocols, rules or anything else for that matter a D wishes of me.   
So i am curious what others think when they see a Dom/Domme with lowercased name, if it changes your first impression and overall view of them?


No, honestly it makes me think less of someone if they take chat room roleplay too seriously.




oneverygoodgirl -> RE: capitils (7/17/2008 3:06:47 PM)

Why should face to face be an entirely different matter? I would believe chatroom protocol to be roleplay and therefore exist for entertainment purposes only.

If you need to capitalize your name to feel Dominant or god forbid use ALL CAPS, perhaps you belong in a chatroom.

I'm a woman, a submissive and I use proper grammar. You can do whatever blows your dress up.






seababy -> RE: capitils (7/17/2008 3:56:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

ya..thats the reason i dont get emails....how my name is typed...would you prefer this: fAeRYTatToOdGIrL


No no no!
That makes you a switch! :) *nods knowingly*

(love your new pic btw)




seababy -> RE: capitils (7/17/2008 4:05:48 PM)

Actually on the topic.
I use to lurk on a chat room as LORDMASTERDARTHVADER
So you cant tell much from what people name themselves.
Except maybe I like to role play "horny net geek" on occasion. (Come on that's a HOT fantasy)




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: capitils (7/17/2008 4:08:28 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen1968
How do you capitalize someone's name when you're speaking to them face to face?

Bam!  Only took three responses to get there :)  You rock.




pixidustpet -> RE: capitils (7/17/2008 4:36:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

ya..thats the reason i dont get emails....how my name is typed...would you prefer this: fAeRYTatToOdGIrL


good gods, i think you get prettier with every new pic you use.  [:)]

kitten




SoulPiercer -> RE: capitils (7/17/2008 4:42:03 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: shadowcd
Regardless of the reason though i notice that if a D has their name without capital i just automatically take them less seriously as a D.  Perhaps it's just cause i view them as less experienced, i'm not sure exactly the reasoning perhaps because it shows they are not familiar with various aspects or protocols which creates trust issues.


Which "protocols" are you speaking of? The ones which were made up in the Cyber Realm?

I was reading books (remember those) and attending functions (gatherings of living, breathing humans) for 7 years before I purchased my first computer and ventured onto the internet.

I assumed that people used the internet as a form of communication, like, I don't know .. the telephone. I had no idea that if I didn't type out A/all .. it suddenly meant that all the knowledge and hands-on experience that I had gained was now lost .. useless .. even worse .. I was no longer a Weal Twue "Dominate".

If you approached me at a function would you actually walk up to me and say - "Hello Capital S ir. Lower case i apostrophe m lower case s hadowcd."?

If you did, I can assure you, I would spray you with mace and run away screaming "I need an adult! I need an adult!"

I get the whole "it's easier to tell Dominants from submissives" thing. However, if someone chooses not to follow that protocol .. I personally wouldn't make any assumptions about their level of experience.

Just my two cents.

Good night Capital E slash lower case e veryone!




faerytattoodgirl -> RE: capitils (7/17/2008 4:42:38 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: pixidustpet

quote:

ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

ya..thats the reason i dont get emails....how my name is typed...would you prefer this: fAeRYTatToOdGIrL


good gods, i think you get prettier with every new pic you use.  [:)]

kitten


and im still single...why????????  [sm=river.gif][sm=river.gif]





shadowcd -> RE: capitils (7/17/2008 5:25:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoulPiercer


Which "protocols" are you speaking of? The ones which were made up in the Cyber Realm?

I was reading books (remember those) and attending functions (gatherings of living, breathing humans) for 7 years before I purchased my first computer and ventured onto the internet.

I assumed that people used the internet as a form of communication, like, I don't know .. the telephone. I had no idea that if I didn't type out A/all .. it suddenly meant that all the knowledge and hands-on experience that I had gained was now lost .. useless .. even worse .. I was no longer a Weal Twue "Dominate".

If you approached me at a function would you actually walk up to me and say - "Hello Capital S ir. Lower case i apostrophe m lower case s hadowcd."?

If you did, I can assure you, I would spray you with mace and run away screaming "I need an adult! I need an adult!"

I get the whole "it's easier to tell Dominants from submissives" thing. However, if someone chooses not to follow that protocol .. I personally wouldn't make any assumptions about their level of experience.

Just my two cents.

Good night Capital E slash lower case e veryone!


I know very little about things offline in terms of a scene as I'm fairly inexperienced having only been involved randomly and always with someone else never directly.   So yes pretty much all I know are the cyber protocols(and even then only a limited amount) but as evidence of this thread obviously that doesn't amount to very much :P   But I'm learning and I generally learn quickly with the exception of spelling and grammar which I have a lot of trouble with.

Yes I capitalized I in this post since caps seem overall generally less important then proper grammar to the vast majority.  So since I don't have a D telling what they prefer I'll just have to submit to the majority and go back to trying to improve my overall spelling/grammar.





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