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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/17/2008 6:56:58 PM   
hermione83


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Status: offline 		This isn't some lofty desire. This is a basic requirement for faith of stability in the future, isn't it? If it was a medical condition, I would understand. They say they are afraid, and could get a license if they wanted to. They just don't.

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/17/2008 6:58:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		They are still alive and functional without a car, right? 

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/17/2008 7:02:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Alive yes, functional, I would argue no.. If it depends on me moving to be near them when we live a tiny distance away, and me always visiting them, and having to wonder if they are capable of getting a job and such..

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/17/2008 7:02:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		If they can't afford a automobile of some sort, than they are probably chronically unemployed, chronically broke, have horrible credit, a combination of these, or all of the above.  It doesn't take much money to get a functioning automobile.  I can go out tomorrow morning with $500.00; get a car, insure it, and have tags on it before lunch.  It might not be a great car, but it will run. 

Interstate makes them nervous?  You can stay off of the interstates  for the most part if are inventive with the routes you take.

Childhood issues?   Give me a break.  If they have issues about cars, than they are going to have issues with a lot more than that.  Run away fast.   

Car accidents?  I've been a few car accidents; one of which I couldn't believe I walked away from.  It made me be a little more cautious, but I wasn't traumatized by it.  If someone can't get over a car accident, again they have other issues.  Run away fast. 

They let their license expire?  A trip down to the courthouse or where ever y'all do your license renewal will fix that.  I had to renew mine last year; it took me about an hour. 

They just want to rely on public transportation only?  How noble of them, but unless they live in one of a handful of cities in this country where that's possible....bullshit. 




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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/17/2008 7:03:35 PM   
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Thanks for making me feel less evil for being so upset about this. It's so weird I seem to meet a constant array of doms here who don't drive. And I'm 25, and they are usually around my age. It's not like these are 17 year olds. On another note, is there any way for me to survive and be happy with a guy who absolutely refuses to drive? I really don't believe they have kids or DUI's. I realize it is possible - but besides swearing otherwise, they are the goody-goody types like me. That's why we're attracted to each other.


No there isnt. Not living in rural Indiana.., When you have a baby and start driving yourself to the hospital with labor pains while he sits in the passengers seat that will get old fast. The first time you have to drag yor sick flu ridden ass out of bed to drive to walgreens in a snowstorm to pick up an Rx while he stays home, the honeymoon is over. My ex-wife had a valid license, and a BMW 325 xi, but she hated to drive in Texas. It caused many a fight when I had a long day and was .like "Laura what the fuck??? Do I look like the motherfucker from Driving Miss Daisy? Well it sucks to be you cause Im not a fucking taxi and Im not going back out..." Not to mention, how do these guys get to work? What decent job doesnt require a valid drivers license?

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/17/2008 7:08:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was going to say that I could arrange to be there to kidnap you within the next couple of hours... but I realized I don't qualify, I am not a virgin.  Not that there is anything wrong with that either.  I see no problem with you setting a couple of basic standards like must have a car and a valid license along with the others you have set out.

Seems pretty realistic, especially in the part of the country you live in.

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/17/2008 7:09:13 PM   
hermione83


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Status: offline 		Thank you to the last two posters. It's just such a shame / waste. Why would someone do that to themselves? Oh I knowww... that was one of my big points. What if it was an emergency?? I don't love driving in a snow storm either, but if my sweetheart had the flu you can be sure I would take care of him, and I really hope for the same. I fantasize about having someone drive at night and letting me drive during the day if we're riding together - I'm dreadfully nearsighted and the nighttime interstate driving is really scary for me, but I do it anyway to see my family whenever I want to. It's just one of those things you gotta do.. unless you're crazy or live in manhattan. And if you're in manhattan, more power to you. My bro/sis in law live in Chicago, the 3rd biggest city in the country, and they both absolutely still must drive and have cars and go in very different directions to work each day.. 

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/17/2008 7:10:14 PM   
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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/17/2008 7:11:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think it's kind of weird for anyone not to drive when they live anywhere that mass transit isn't available.  Even weirder for guys.  I'm sexist.  Shoot me.

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/17/2008 7:13:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		I get the feeling you are going to be seeing a LOT more of it with gas prices going the way they are. You may never date again. :)

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/17/2008 7:14:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Are the guys in question gainfully employed, responsible and living on their own?  What are your standards for a prospective partner?

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/17/2008 7:16:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah I know, I just looked at her profile... Not to criticize anyones kink or standards BUT this "must be a virgin" thing is going to attract the loser guys and the natural subs.

A highschool boy has ONE mission in life, ONE singular goal - to get laid! LOL His secondary mission is to get his license so as to get a car to get laid IN. (Refer to the the following : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltQNe5B9tek )If a guy isnt "dom" enough to get Diane to "run off behind the shade tree, dribble off those Bobbie Brook slacks and do what I please" Hes certainly no dom in later life. LOL The first thing I obtained after I started working was a 1979 Trans Am. I put 30,000 miles on the engine and 400,000 miles on the backseat.

Just a thought.....

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/17/2008 7:17:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: hermione83

Alive yes, functional, I would argue no.. If it depends on me moving to be near them when we live a tiny distance away, and me always visiting them, and having to wonder if they are capable of getting a job and such..


Hermione, it should raise a red flag!
Slaveboy is right, run away!
What kind of bullshit excuses are all of those?
I can garauntee you they're not telling you the whole truth!
There's a lot of Bums out there.
What happens if you get involved with one and he gets evicted for not paying the rent?
"I didn't like the place."
"It wasn't big enough."
"I wanted to move anyway."
Instead of; "I didn't pay the rent."
If you're looking to get hooked up with a Dom it's best to make sure they have a;
A. Job
B. Car or truck.
C. Driver's lisense
D. Money.
E Apartment, house or condo
A lot of those guys live in a fantasy world.
They want a sub or slave but can't hold a job or pay rent or take care of a sub or slave.
You hang around them long enough and you'll end up in the "Man Cave" at their parent's house eating pizza 4 times a week instead of going out to dinner 2 or 3 times a week to a nice restaurant.
That'd be nice huh; he ties you up naked and "Mom" comes down the stairs with a load of wash!
Not having a driver's lisense is the first symptom that something's wrong!
How can they be Dominant if they can't even control their own lives and provide for themselves much less another person?
There's a lot of "LOOSERS" out there!
Real Dominants fly jet fighters, own houses, boats, cars, trucks and businesses like D.A.!

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/17/2008 7:21:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomAviator

Yeah I know, I just looked at her profile... Not to criticize anyones kink or standards BUT this "must be a virgin" thing is going to attract the loser guys and the natural subs.

A highschool boy has ONE mission in life, ONE singular goal - to get laid! LOL His secondary mission is to get his license so as to get a car to get laid IN. (Refer to the the following : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltQNe5B9tek )If a guy isnt "dom" enough to get Diane to "run off behind the shade tree, dribble off those Bobbie Brook slacks and do what I please" Hes certainly no dom in later life. LOL The first thing I obtained after I started working was a 1979 Trans Am. I put 30,000 miles on the engine and 400,000 miles on the backseat.

Just a thought.....


Ah yes, because having sex makes you more dominant ...


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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/17/2008 7:27:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: opposingtwilight

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomAviator

Yeah I know, I just looked at her profile... Not to criticize anyones kink or standards BUT this "must be a virgin" thing is going to attract the loser guys and the natural subs.

A highschool boy has ONE mission in life, ONE singular goal - to get laid! LOL His secondary mission is to get his license so as to get a car to get laid IN. (Refer to the the following : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltQNe5B9tek )If a guy isnt "dom" enough to get Diane to "run off behind the shade tree, dribble off those Bobbie Brook slacks and do what I please" Hes certainly no dom in later life. LOL The first thing I obtained after I started working was a 1979 Trans Am. I put 30,000 miles on the engine and 400,000 miles on the backseat.

Just a thought.....


Ah yes, because having sex makes you more dominant ...



Dawn, I would say that it does... A Dom is able to get what he wants, to achieve his goals, and to persurade others to comply with his wishes. (Or in the case of a Domme, adjust for gender) A dominant male, IS able to charm the panties off of someone... As the song says "Dont Call Him A Cowboy Till Ya Seen Him Ride"... A virgin, CANNOT IMHO, be a dom any more than a guy who has never soloed can be a pilot. Sex is a funny thing, whe he finally gets a woman to do it - he may find that he wants to wear her panties and have her cornhole him with a strap on while he bites the sheets and cries out fuck me mistress... You dont know what you like until you try it, and I dont see how a virgin can be a dom. You dont know if ya like cheesecake tll youve had your first slice...

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/17/2008 7:27:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hmmm, I hope we didn't scare her off...

I should be more careful when mentioning kidnapping, especially with some of the stereotypes out there.  I meant it in a CONSENTUAL way.



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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/17/2008 7:29:43 PM   
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That does sort of scream ,"Lives in my mom's basement with my cat fluffy" doesn't it?

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/17/2008 7:32:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomAviator

quote:

ORIGINAL: opposingtwilight

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomAviator

Yeah I know, I just looked at her profile... Not to criticize anyones kink or standards BUT this "must be a virgin" thing is going to attract the loser guys and the natural subs.

A highschool boy has ONE mission in life, ONE singular goal - to get laid! LOL His secondary mission is to get his license so as to get a car to get laid IN. (Refer to the the following : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltQNe5B9tek )If a guy isnt "dom" enough to get Diane to "run off behind the shade tree, dribble off those Bobbie Brook slacks and do what I please" Hes certainly no dom in later life. LOL The first thing I obtained after I started working was a 1979 Trans Am. I put 30,000 miles on the engine and 400,000 miles on the backseat.

Just a thought.....


Ah yes, because having sex makes you more dominant ...



Dawn, I would say that it does... A Dom is able to get what he wants, to achieve his goals, and to persurade others to comply with his wishes. (Or in the case of a Domme, adjust for gender) A dominant male, IS able to charm the panties off of someone... As the song says "Dont Call Him A Cowboy Till Ya Seen Him Ride"... A virgin, CANNOT IMHO, be a domme any more than a guy who has never soloed can be a pilot. Sex is a funny thing, whe he finally gets a woman to do it - he may find that he wants to wear her panties and have her cornhole him with a strap on while he bites the sheets and cries out fuck me mistress... You dont know what you like until you try it, and I dont see how a virgin can be a dom.


I disagree. The dominant I find myself most interested in right now is a virgin.

He chooses to be a virgin. (Sorry herms, I saw him first.)

I don't really think it makes him any more or less dominant than someone who's had sex. I just think he's someone who has chosen to wait. The fact that he has not yet "charmed the panties" off some girl (or girls) actually is kind of a turn on for me.

I know that he's not interested me -just- so he can get in my panties. It may or may not happen someday but right now, its not a big deal. Lets us focus on more important things.

As for how he can be a dom, well I'm not one to kiss and tell but suffice to say he is quite capable of taking whatever control I choose to give him. More importantly, he makes me -want- to give him that control ... And thats hot.

Edited to add

He so doesn't live with his mom. Or his dad. Or anyone else. He does drive a car, by the way. (Since thats what this thread is actually about.)


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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/17/2008 7:40:07 PM   
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Virgin?

That does sort of scream ,"Lives in my mom's basement with my cat fluffy" doesn't it?


LOL Yeah I agree Leatherist... I mean Jesus Christ! Plus this whole "Im saving myself" thing seems cute in theory, but arent those folks in for a rude shock when they find out that their beloved is utterly totally sexually incompatible with them. Sex is an extremely important factor in a long term relationship. This "saving onesself" stuff is the equivelant of buying one pair of shoes for the rest of your life without even trying them on.

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/17/2008 7:40:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		opposing, who's the virgin Dom? *sniff sniff* I wants.. .. :P *sticks out hands* Did you meet him here?

But anyyywho, you all are assuming every guy wants to have sex. I'm a Christian, etc etc and I'm waiting. I like a guy so dominant that he always knew who he was and had strong good beliefs like a Paladin. :P Just like I did. Since I was a little girl. It wasn't something he was pursuaded into or something someone else got him to experiment with. And strong enough to be able to resist and wait to just kidnap that one special girly (*moi*). Oh, I really want to be kidnapped. You know, like, when I'm asleep in bed and they break in the window and grab me up with their hand over their mouth and drag me out kicking or with chloroform or something.. :P But only if he makes me marry him in the woods after that and *then* he rapes me. :P

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