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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/20/2008 7:05:30 PM   
popeye1250


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Status: offline 		Artcat, are you saying that Baptists used to be Catholic?

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/20/2008 7:40:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		The doctrine used in my baptist church is that the Baptists lineage originated with John The Baptist, who baptized Christ himself in the Jordan River. They thus predate the protestant reformation as well as the Catholic church. The actually predate Jesus, since it was John who announced the coming of Christ and who baptised him (as well as many others in his riverside baptisms...)

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/20/2008 8:39:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Artcat, are you saying that Baptists used to be Catholic?


I am saying that Baptists clearly have their roots in the Reformation, according to historians and most Baptists.

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/20/2008 8:41:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomAviator

The doctrine used in my baptist church is that the Baptists lineage originated with John The Baptist, who baptized Christ himself in the Jordan River. They thus predate the protestant reformation as well as the Catholic church. The actually predate Jesus, since it was John who announced the coming of Christ and who baptised him (as well as many others in his riverside baptisms...)


I'll take the word of historians over the word of a minority doctrine that arose at a time when the idea was in vogue.

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/20/2008 8:46:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dear Rule --

I'm a natural slave, and I've had 5 accidents in my life.. all of them were my fault, though not all were involving other cars (I fell asleep once on a very long drive by myself at night, and drove through a wet cow pasture and mail boxes, etc..). I know how to drive well, and I've never gotten a speeding ticket (yet) but I'm always late, and I have little regard for my own life... though I am cautious when I'm on the interstate and such  more than if I'm driving on smaller roads. I can be really reckless when it comes to myself only - I think it goes along with my clumsiness..

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/21/2008 12:11:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: hermione83
I'm a natural slave, ... and I have little regard for my own life... I can be really reckless when it comes to myself only - I think it goes along with my clumsiness.
I know that you are a natural slave, hermione. These are indeed characteristics of a natural slave. There is the reason that Gorean slave girls are not allowed to touch knives: they might hurt themselves.
 
I was rather surprised that the natural slaves did so well in the car accident poll. My expectation was that the subs would have the lowest accident percentage, but they were second best. Hm, I guess that it may be because the participating natural slaves have not yet transformed into incarnations of the Goddess of Slaves.

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/21/2008 12:17:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		ArtCatDom is correct.  Link to over-view on the Protestant Reformation on Wikipedia -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reformation



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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/21/2008 10:50:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Artcat, are you saying that Baptists used to be Catholic?


I am saying that Baptists clearly have their roots in the Reformation, according to historians and most Baptists.



Artcat,  Baptists were *never* a part of  the Catholic Church ergo they can't have been "Protestants."
And if they "clearly had their roots in the Reformation"  are you saying that Baptists "didn't exist" *before* the Reformation?
D.A. has it right.

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/21/2008 2:02:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		no, baptists (as a religious denomination)  did NOT exist before the reformation. until i find a reputable religion scholar or historian who can adequately explain how they did, i'll continue to follow the general academic thought on this subject. artcatdom has it right.

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/21/2008 2:02:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Rule, I always love reading your responses. You're a very interesting person.

Yes, Baptists "were Catholics" at some point, absolutely. But they were all Christians before the Catholic churched was formed. Baptists like to get back to the Bible. But anyway, many came directly from the catholic church, some from the dissenting from the Church of England, which too came from the Catholic church. They usually say John Clarke started it in America during the Reformation, at the same time as the other early protestant denominations.

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/21/2008 2:12:24 PM   
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They usually say John Clarke started it in America during the Reformation

Actually the reformation occured some 100 years before your Mr. Clarke was active

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RE: Is there something wrong with a Master who can't/wo... - 7/21/2008 2:29:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		The history of Christianity is extensively documented by historians and religious scholars.  You can read a good overview on Wikipedia and follow their references on the bottom of the pages.


"Baptist is a term describing individuals belonging to a Baptist church or a Baptist denomination. The name is derived from a conviction that followers of Jesus Christ are commanded to be baptized (most commonly by being immersed in water) as a public display of their faith, and thus most adherents reject infant baptism. While the term "Baptist" has its origins with the Anabaptists, and was sometimes viewed as pejorative, the denomination itself is historically linked to the English Dissenter or Separatist or Nonconformism movements of the 16th century.[1]
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptists



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_Reformation

(includes a easy to read chart from 1500 to 2000 CE)




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