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RE: Knealing - 7/21/2008 12:35:38 PM   
leadership527


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ORIGINAL: Munkee07
Thank you all for your posts. I have discusses this at length with him, and I have tried finding out what the main fear is behind kneeling(sorry to have mispelled the first time). I have no problem with kneeling, I rather enjoy it, if he initiates it, but to just go up and kneel to ask a question or to serve him is rather odd.

Hey, just so you know, I'd guess that MOST people find kneeling odd when they are first doing it.  Like a ton of other things about being a sub/slave, these are all new behaviors and, for the most part, won't feel entirely comfortable when you first do them.  I still find it "rather odd" to see my wife kneeling in front of me.  We both like it... but it's "rather odd" still.  I'm sure in a year it won't be.  In your original post you said, 'freaked out" which sent uup red flags for a lot of us.  "Rather Odd", though, would be about how I'd expect any boundary pushing to feel and sounds roughly right.  "Freaked Out" sounds like a boundary pushed either too far or too fast.

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RE: Knealing - 7/21/2008 1:04:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		i love to kneel. As a very strong and opinionated woman in everyday life, it tends to put me in my place very quickly. When first asked to do it, i did find it a little bit awkward but that passed. Unfortunately, since i wrecked my motorcycle, kneeling isn't an option. So, the Dom that i play with finds other ways to put me in my place... was the accident a bad thing or a good thing? lol

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RE: Knealing - 7/21/2008 8:25:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		 It wasnt a boundry pushed to far or to fast. I think its more of a comfort issue. Like you said leadership I'm sure it wont be "rather odd" in about a year. It's just something I will have to grow accustomed to. Also I do see how it can be a sign of respect, but this is the first time I have ever heard of kneeling as a sign of respect. Before when I have seen someone kneeling it has always been out of fear for ones life. "flips off hollywood"


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RE: Knealing - 7/21/2008 8:34:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Like in racing, a red flag means stop, there's a problem.

Such as if you were talking to someone online and they wanted you to get a hotel room, leave the door unlocked, while you lay there naked and blindfolded. That's a red flag because there's a risk involved in doing that with someone you never met. So when asked, normal people say "no, that's too dangerous for me".

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RE: Knealing - 7/22/2008 5:19:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have no problem kneeling before a woman as long as she is naked and her legs are resting on my back.

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RE: Knealing - 7/23/2008 5:32:45 AM   
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I have no problem kneeling before a woman as long as she is naked and her legs are resting on my back.


LOL 

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RE: Knealing - 7/23/2008 8:17:55 PM   
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RE: Knealing - 7/23/2008 8:27:07 PM   
joyinslavery


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Status: offline 		I find kneading very relaxing and, like you, very exciting depending on the circumstances but also at times quite necessary depending on how much dough is needed.

Great OP and nice to hear other opinions on the subject. 

Have fun.    

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RE: Knealing - 7/24/2008 6:32:36 PM   
pandoravampire


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Status: offline 		Kneeling: does nothing to inspire my submission, but he likes it. Hey ho.
Kneeling ruins any shoes you have on, specially the expensive naughty types of footwear. (get your Sir to spend a couple of hundred out on a new pair of boots, as he's ruined your last pair by having you kneel in them)
Kneeling is for people who have carpets! We are wooden floor boarded all over the house.
Anatomically, kneeling is impossible for my mid life years for longer than say a minute.
Kneeling, like every other activity, you get used to. Its exciting, initially, then its boring, then painful and dumb in my book.
Nowt graceful/attractive about scarred knees & ankles, and whinging sub in genuine pain. Nowt attractive in a Dom who commands you to harm yourself for their fix!


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RE: Knealing - 7/26/2008 1:32:08 AM   
NewandSexySub702


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Status: offline 		Like some people before have said, kneeling really depends upon the person and their Owner. For example, in the beginning of my Journey( i dont like the word relationship) with my Sir, i didnt sit on the floor. He always wanted me to be on the couch, but now, i am required to sit and kneel on the floor. I generally sit at his feet and kneel when asking for something or for a specfic reason.Sir, said that he always thought about having me on the floor, but until just recently did he actually want it, and this change was brought on by me. One day, i just decided to sit at his feet, and ive been there since. I cant imagine, not sitting at his feet, having him pet me. I will admit, i am still tring to get used to being led around the house as a Dog, but i have learned that eventaully i will get used to it and will come to like it or even love it.
On a side note, i had to pratice kneeling on my own before kneeling for Sir. At first i would kneel on a pillow and than put a pillow on my legs and sit my butt on the pillow and i would hold this position for 5 minutes. I than would remove the pillow underneath my butt and just kneel on the pillow beneath me knees for 5 minutes a day and i would work myself up. I am still doing my training like this because after a long periond of time, i start to cramp up. But ive learned how to move myself some to ease the pain, so i can contiune to kneel. Generally my feet cramp up when i kneel and slighty behind my knees. But you just have to learn and pratice your own way of kneeling, and it will become second nature to you, and you wont even think about it.

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RE: Knealing - 7/27/2008 6:33:41 PM   
charlie63


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Status: offline 		At the beginning of my journey so many things, kneeling among them, made me uncomfortable because they went completely against the grain of what I learned as "societal norms". The independent woman in me at one time would have been appalled by the very idea of kneeling to a man. My Dom does not require regular, ritualistic kneeling. But He does often order me to kneel in front of him for a particular reason - to discuss something serious in our relationship, to confess a transgression for which i am to be disciplined, or to begin a session - and it immediately puts me into a submissive state which i find erotic, warm and wonderful.

It is all a growing, learning process. Enjoy!!

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RE: Knealing - 7/29/2008 12:22:47 AM   
khantengri


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Status: offline 		My submissive has a very charming way of kneeling to me, it certainly has not lost it's appeal for me yet. It makes me think more of a knight's kneel. It's closer to a lazy lunge than it is to a kneel where both knees touch the ground.

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RE: Knealing - 7/29/2008 11:20:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Munkee07
... kneeling(sorry to have mispelled the first time). ...

Offtopic but not: Would S/somebody change the topic name to "Kneeling"?

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RE: Knealing - 7/29/2008 9:42:40 PM   
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I have to admit I wandered in here just to see if anyone would correct the spelling. :-D Remember folks, good spelling and grammer IS sexy.


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RE: Knealing - 8/3/2008 11:37:03 AM   
shiazn03


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Status: offline 		i've never had a problem with kneeling.  in fact, i like it.  alot of the times, it is part of protocols and i love protocols!   well, i mean, i'm not talking about Gorean or anything out of the BDSM "ordinary."

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RE: Knealing - 8/5/2008 12:43:56 PM   
SlaveSubtoserve


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Status: offline 		...this s. has spent many hours on his knees-- clears the head, and with the help of a soft cushion can be an extended head space for submission.

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RE: Knealing - 8/5/2008 2:20:33 PM   
akisha


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Status: offline 		I have no problem sitting at his feet, but as i have no cartiledge in my one knee and the knee cap is cracked in the other, i very rarely actually kneel. It's the "once down we ain't getting back up" kind of thing. With out screaming pain that is.

You'll find that once you start routinely kneeling to ask a question or bring a drink etc, it doesn't seem wierd or unnatural anymore, it's just part of your day with him. Before I was old and decrepit and broken lol, i loved to kneel before or beside not only my Dom but when I was in a vanilla relationship too. The most comforting position for me was kneeling beside him with my head in his lap while he sat and read or watch tv or whatever. 

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RE: Knealing - 8/5/2008 4:31:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have to agree with others here. Kneeling places me the right headspace recieve further instructions.  Gives me a chance to clear my mind of the day's activities and focus only on Sir.  The first time I knelt before both my Daddy and my Dom it was a huge relief to surrender everything and function not as mommy, employee, friend, or even wife,but, only as submissive.

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RE: Knealing - 8/10/2008 6:07:51 PM   
patina


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Status: offline 		I was with a Gorean Master for a few months, there is a lot of kneeling in Gor and each one is positioned different and has its own name,  When Master came home from work we had to be in karta then to approach him or another master you kneel in nadu, if you want to ask or beg for a collar you kneel in submit, if you are to be punished you are in the whip position, to ask forgiveness bara which actually is laying on your stomach.  then to sit quietly beside him you do tower.  There is more to it than that but as you can see it is a lot to learn.  But my Master did not require us to stay in the positions long he would release us to change to a comfortable position fairly quick.  He also provided us with cushions to sit and kneel upon.  We were not allowed to sit on furniture at all except a bed at night.
 
I enjoyed kneeling beside him or to him it put me in the correct mindset.  Now in public we of course did not kneel.  I would now rather sit at his feet than in a chair as I can be closer to him. Too he caresses my hair, and touches me while i am at his feet.
 
So there are a lot of pluss for kneeling to your master.
 
patina 

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RE: Kneeling - 8/10/2008 6:22:58 PM   
wordstoponder


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Status: offline 		In past experiences, both kink and vanilla, I never really kneeled except to perform fellatio.  Occasionally, I'd be ask to kneel for the sake of kneeling, but it was never a constant demand.

With Master, I first kneeled at His feet because I was drawn there.  It was the third person I met in real life from CM, but we had agreed to hang out as friends.  He kept His word.  However, there was something about Him that pulled me to my knees.  He taught me how to kneel "properly", and different positions that I could shift into if I was tired of the typical kneeling position, such as sliding onto one side, or just sitting on the floor cross-legged.  I got used to being on the floor.  Crawling across the floor was a bit more difficult to get used to, but now I find it fun to crawl around and wiggle my booty.  The most difficult bit was kneeling and serving Him His coffee in the morning.  I've spilled many times, and continue to make messes, but I've been getting better at it.

I enjoy kneeling because it shows Him that I am proud to be at His feet.  Besides, while I'm down there, I could rest my head on His thigh and enjoy being petted (meow), worship His cock or His feet, or practice Yoga postures.

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