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RE: The move to 24/7 Now What? - 7/22/2008 10:25:10 AM   
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It is not easy. All too often life comes and turns Master and slave into boyfriend and girlfriend, or even just roommates. Kat and I have a number of things built into her latest contract (which we just signed last night!) to keep the dynamic in good working order.

First, we have twelve mini-contracts that we will negotiate and execute over the next year. These contracts will focus on edgier play, for short durations. (We might have a 24 hour contract where she is treated just like a cat...made to be naked with a cat tail butt plug and sleep in her crate...no talking, no human interaction).

Next, we have a checklist that she has to complete each week. The list gives her duties and responsibilities. Each Sunday we review the list and for each item not checked off, she gets a stroke with a doubled up belt (something she does not like at all.

There are other things that keep us firmly in our dynamic, but they are fairly trivial. When added up they make a difference, but individually they seem insignificant. For instance, if I detect a tone or an attitude, sometimes I will let it go...but if it gets to be too much, I come down on her hard and fast. This re-establishes our relationship, even if it does "freak her out" (her words).

You have to find what works for you, but it is important that you do establish boundaries and rituals to keep them in place.

Taggard


Taggard,

You spelled out the problem very well and it appears that you have it under control.

Thanks

CP

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RE: The move to 24/7 Now What? - 7/22/2008 10:27:56 AM   
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For me it's a process of remembering and recreating what made it great to start with, and finding new ways to explore together.


LA,

I gree that recalling is an important issue in keeping it going. Congrats on two years!

CP

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RE: The move to 24/7 Now What? - 7/22/2008 10:31:14 AM   
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Sir and I are really in this just moving in stage together. He just moved here in March but somedays it is a struggle to even find time to see each other,, but we do little things like sending naughty texts, making sure we at least get to cuddle at bed time, and making sure that we always get some alone time together each week. but as for the D/s dynamic, sometimes it gets a little lost but we always seem to find it again without to much trouble, little reminders are all it takes.


angel,

Amen to how difficult it is but keep those reminders flowing, as once you start to lose it it becomes like a whirlpool.

CP

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RE: The move to 24/7 Now What? - 7/22/2008 10:39:01 AM   
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Your post has great timing for me. Three years ago, almost to the very day, Gary and I met at the event we just showed up for this afternoon...In The Woods although the year was 2005 back then instead of 2008. We actually met first before doing the phone and internet thing for the next 6 months which is a bit unusual.

To keep our dynamic fresh, we play in some ways every day. Of course the play may only last a minute at a time, but it's a minute that means that we both remember what brought us together. When we can we enjoy attending events or going to a dungeon. What makes those times so very special is that they are also so very rare. We often go 5 months without a dungeon trip because the nearest one is 250 miles away when we're in Arizona, but we do make sure we go each and every winter. We also welcome the chances we get to meet new people in new places. As we travel we search for munches that might be meeting while we are passing through. We've always been welcome and it's great to share some time with other kinky folk.

I believe what makes us do so well together and what keeps the magic is that we both work at our relationship. Yes, there are times when we both get irritated with the other as we are both very human, however, in the end he is the Dom, i am the sub...and we like it that way.


pepper,

Well happy 3 yr anniversary. I imagine that it might be even harder for you and Gary as you spend so much time traveling together on the road.

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RE: The move to 24/7 Now What? - 7/22/2008 10:46:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince
The cyber interactions are in the past, phone sex is also history. The real time meetings with her/him kneeling at their Master/Sir's Ma'am's feet is still fresh in the mind the pledge to please always still upon the "s"'s lips. Now life's reality set in, how do you clinge to that magic or do you, and if not how long does it take for the majic to wear off in the face of life's pressures?

CP


I couldn't say, because there was no cyber sex and the magic is still going strong. We didn't even meet on CollarMe. We met on a vanilla site. Even if we had met on CollarMe, the results would have been the same. Just because we met via a personal ad that happened be on a web site and not in a newspaper, that doesn't change how our relationship progressed.

The transition to 24/7 was seamless for us, just like the transition to marriage would be IF one truly wants to be married or Master/Mistress - submissive/slave and isn't just playing a role behind the keyboard.

As long as you understand, in "real life" (and damn I hate that since to me the 'cyber realm' is a communications mode and nothing more) the dishes get done, the bills are paid and the dog needs walking before the fun stuff begins.

However for some reason the transition is difficult for many people. I know people who have 2 computers in their home and they actually cyber with each other, just to keep that "excitement" alive. Personally, I don't get it. Afterall .. role play can be done anywhere .. not just in a chatroom.

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RE: The move to 24/7 Now What? - 7/22/2008 2:28:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL:  SoulPiercer
However for some reason the transition is difficult for many people. I know people who have 2 computers in their home and they actually cyber with each other, just to keep that "excitement" alive. Personally, I don't get it. Afterall .. role play can be done anywhere .. not just in a chatroom.

Hey great!  For once, I get to be the one thinking outside the box on these discussion boards.  All too often, I find myself (the vanilla guy) struggling to see OUTSIDE the box I'm in and understand the posts I see from all you deviants *laughs* (kidding).

My wife wears my collar in a M/s relationship.  We STILL do online though.  Granted, much less now that the exploration has gone real life, but we still do.  The cyber environment allows for exploration of things that would be too creepy to explore in RL (remember, I'm joe vanilla here so pretty much EVERYTHING discussed on these boards is "too creepy".  Well, to be fair, I'm getting over it slowly.  Nothing like having a collared sex slave to get a guy more interested in perversions *laughs*.  We also use it to explore things that aren't possible in real life but are in a virtual reality environment.  Any tool can be bent to a wide variety of purposes by an inventive mind.

I certainly agree with your confusion regarding the "keep the excitement alive" statement.  Sheez, when we went real life, the excitement went into real life with us and went up several orders of magnitude.

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RE: The move to 24/7 Now What? - 7/22/2008 4:50:56 PM   
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The question itself seems defeatist. It tough to put nicely, but it is the type of question that should be asked and answered during the contemplation stage not after the fact.


Mercs,

It was not a defeatist question but one that is reflective of a common problem for path walkers. For you to have natureally solved the problem is a "good on ya" kind of thing but few are that successful.

CP

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RE: The move to 24/7 Now What? - 7/22/2008 4:56:45 PM   
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First off, unless you are literally together 24/7, no one says phone sex has to be "history". It's just that instead of not expecting the other person to be titillated by it for months on end, now you just have to wait until you both get home. <http://www.collarchat.com/image/s3.gif>

Seriously, if you want your D/s or M/s structure to remain in tact, even though real life is now part of the picture (that's the money earning, cleaning, bill paying, grocery shopping part of life), it's up to you as a D or M to make it that way. It's your dynamic. That means, it's also your responsibility.

The easiest way that I have ever found to prevent a D/s dynamic from becoming something else, is to instill rituals. I know a lot of people frown when I say that, but I'm not talking about long, drawn out, impractical things. T


hat's not the idea behind it. In My view, rituals which keep a dynamic focused are those that are practical, fit your situation and your needs, and can be done without interrupting those other parts of life that all of us have to deal with.

Here's what I would be looking at if I were in the process of changing My online based dynamic, to a real life one. If you're worried about the 'magic' of the online parts slipping away, find a way to translate those things into your physical world. No, it's probably not realistic to think your s will kneel each and every time you walk into a room, but what about instilling a ritual that she will do it, minimally, as her morning and evening greeting to you? Did you have a particular online greeting and way of saying good-bye? Why not keep them when you are at home together? Does she have a specific title for you? Instruct her to keep it in place. Figure out the small things, such as how you want your coffee, tea, whatever, served to you, and have that adhered to. Of course, you might have to come up with alternate things while you're in public, but when at home, structure your house as you want it. That will help you keep that spark.

If you are basing this, and a prior question that I noticed, on the positive things that might be happening in your life, I would like to wish you the best of luck and happiness.


Lp,
The post is a retorical question for all to ponder, i have/had my own solutions to keeping the dynamic, but the responsibility is a joint shared one.

Thanks for your input.

CP

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RE: The move to 24/7 Now What? - 7/22/2008 4:59:30 PM   
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I would tell you that the magic and never wears off if you do it right. The magic never wears off if you both always put the relationship ahead of yourself. Your responsibility to each other as lovers must never take a back seat to your personal needs. Your duty as Master and her duty as slave or Dom/sub must always be in place. If one of you thinks that there is an issue, a personal need, a desire that is more important than the survival and health of the collective unit, it will be the beginning of the end of the relationship. You don’t always get what you work for in this life but you rarely get what you don’t work for. You must both always work for the relationship.

I have friends and ex lovers in my life that the magic has never faded from. One started in 1970, another in 1979 and one from 1993.


RS,

it sounds as though you have the attitude to get it done.

CP

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RE: The move to 24/7 Now What? - 7/22/2008 5:04:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

The cyber interactions are in the past, phone sex is also history. The real time meetings with her/him kneeling at their Master/Sir's Ma'am's feet is still fresh in the mind the pledge to please always still upon the "s"'s lips. Now life's reality set in, how do you clinge to that magic or do you, and if not how long does it take for the majic to wear off in the face of life's pressures?



When a person has unrealistic ideals of what is and what will be.... it is pretty easy for the magic to wash away when reality bangs on the door.

But.. keeping a person feet squarely on the ground and thought in the realm of realistics expectations that are sure to be materialized in the future... well.. the magic only gets brighter as one realizes them with each passing day. 

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RE: The move to 24/7 Now What? - 7/22/2008 5:11:19 PM   
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The magic only fades when we stop performing it.


Treasure,

I so agree with that!

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RE: The move to 24/7 Now What? - 7/22/2008 5:15:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

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I couldn't tell you... seeing as though I only had one online relationship that went real life and all other relationships were in person. But that relationship magic turned off when I turned on his computer!



Lockit,

Nods, [the old computer probe] gets so many, but you left us hanging!

CP


LOL hanging sounds interesting!  Let's just say I don't do fantasy-mistress-playtoy well and he didn't do honesty, reality and monogamy well.  But he did put up a good impression (for a long time) that fooled many and he is still out there fooling them!  And when he reads this I am sure to get a yahoo! lol

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RE: The move to 24/7 Now What? - 7/22/2008 5:31:01 PM   
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You combat those by coming up with means - physical, spiritual, mental, verbal, material, use variety here - to stay connected to the Ds or Ms dynamic. Make a mutual commitment to hold up your end of the dynamic.


tammyjo,

Yours is a good plan that I have used in the past.

CP

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RE: The move to 24/7 Now What? - 7/22/2008 8:15:58 PM   
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From the perspective of violet having lived 24/7 with Master for 4 years and collared for 2 years:

my response is that it ebbs and flows. While having the relationship has removed some pressure, there's been a LOT to experience in that time.

* moving twice diagonally across Australia (once Him to me, now both of us back to His state)
* poly then a marriage break up
* difficulty in finding work in both locations (for both of us)
* frustration and feelings of rejection in this
* financial difficulties
* a difficult and demanding Mother to deal with (mine)
* selling a much-loved property with house and Dungeon
* packing and moving and unpacking
* relocating pets ... losing the dogs for 24+ hours the first week here and then finding them
* Master getting ill this year with a virus that causes extreme fatigue and arthritis-like symptoms for 6-12 months
* getting to the financial desperate point of possibly selling up recently
* then Master getting a job (great!) but this also triggering gout (despite Him not having the risk factors for it)
* then me getting work, and a job to apply for (good but did it all have to come at once LOL!)
* Jay still not finding a sub ... source of great frustration!

Reading this over ... i'm exhausted LOL! And almost amazed that He and i are still so incredibly happy together and so much in love. This list seems to be right up there with all the major stressors!

So ... how have we survived all of that? It's not been easy, to say it has would be a glib answer. After an initial honeymoon that lasted nearly a year, we haven't played as much as we want to, and we've not even had sex as much as we want to! Especially not lately, we're just too bombed out. BUT ... we know things will get better and we can weather the lows knowing the highs will come. And our little daily rituals ... calling Him Master at all times it's appropriate, asking permission to go to the toilet, curtseying when i serve Him food, Him calling me pet, the little spanks on the ass ... and above all our great shared sense of humour and total zanyness at least once a day ... that's got us through. And our deep and abiding commitment to each other and this M/s relationship. And that in the face of a 15 year age difference (He's such a young thing!) ... which has been fortunately well accepted by His family and folks here. i think we've had more than our fair share of obstacles!

So ... yes, it's commitment, it's not being impatient when things aren't going as you want but also getting whatever you can of that under control, it's love, it's humour, it's rituals. Perhaps best summed up by paraphrasing an old prayer:

Grant us the serenity to accept the things we cannot change, the Dommly courage to change the things He can and the wisdom to know the difference!

violet[A] aka Maam Jay
Edited to make it a tad more readable!

< Message edited by MaamJay -- 7/22/2008 8:24:07 PM >


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RE: The move to 24/7 Now What? - 7/22/2008 9:14:04 PM   
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Your responsibility to each other as lovers must never take a back seat to your personal needs. 


While that's a nice idea. . .the reality is the needs and well being of the teenager in our care has to come before D/s -  keeping a roof over our head does have to come before D/s -  I want to keep my job so if  I have to travel I can't just say "sorry, I need to be home to serve my Dom this week"  Real life isn't nice and simple and yes it takes work. 

I'm glad so many of you have found it easy to put this first. . but I've not been in the position.  We lived with family and then roommates.  I have outside family and responsibilities.  We both have things like multiple jobs and family commitments and a circle of friends who we have important relationships with as well.  So in my reality - I find things like taking my father to the doctor comes before our D/s relationship.  And try telling a 16 year old that had to deal with her bio mother getting beat up that she should ignore the strange noises coming from our room - LOL

Sorry if this doesn't fit the ideal but this is real life.   And what works in your situations just isn't what works in everyones'.
But I think we do the best we can - and am always looking for ways to do better.  As I think the original poster was.  So maybe some of you should be open to that before being so judgemental.


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RE: The move to 24/7 Now What? - 7/22/2008 9:33:58 PM   
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The question itself seems defeatist. It tough to put nicely, but it is the type of question that should be asked and answered during the contemplation stage not after the fact.


Mercs,

It was not a defeatist question but one that is reflective of a common problem for path walkers. For you to have natureally solved the problem is a "good on ya" kind of thing but few are that successful.

CP

CP,
My question is why would you enter into a 24/7 relationship, let alone seek it if the question after obtaining it is "now what?" 

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RE: The move to 24/7 Now What? - 7/22/2008 11:04:52 PM   
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I don't think anyone can really predict how long the honeymoon phase will last; I feel it's totally individual and related to how hard the people work at making it last, even in the face of every day life.

There are books that list 100 ways to say I Love You...perhaps we need a book that lists 100 ways to say Your Mine or I'm Yours.

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RE: The move to 24/7 Now What? - 7/23/2008 3:50:08 AM   
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Have that triple scoop ice cream without hesitation.


joy

would that be rocky road?

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RE: The move to 24/7 Now What? - 7/23/2008 3:53:36 AM   
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If the dynamic is incorporated into your daily lives, then it won't fight with real life. It'll BE real life. This is just the very beginning.


527,

Good words indeed, however in my experience it will not happen if her mindset does not want to accept it 24/7

CP

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RE: The move to 24/7 Now What? - 7/23/2008 3:56:50 AM   
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I know people who have 2 computers in their home and they actually cyber with each other, just to keep that "excitement" alive. Personally, I don't get it. Afterall .. role play can be done anywhere .. not just in a chatroom.


SP,

Now that I have to smile at! Thanks for your input.

CP

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