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philosophy -> RE: Birth control = abortion? (7/24/2008 8:25:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: hizgeorgiapeach

Abortions, with the exception of those performed due to medical necessity to save the mother's live, are typically considered an Elective procedure.  Any doctor has the right to refuse to do Elective procedures that are not something that's causing a life threatening problem - whether it's something like abortion or giving a face lift and liposuction.  There are other times when it's Recommended by the doctor in question - non-viability of the fetus, etc - that I wouldn't consider Elective.  But ya know what - a doctor that refuses to perform a procedure necessary to save the life of their Primary Patient (the Mother) because they find the Procedure to be "morally questionable" - is just as wrong as a pharmacist who refuses to fill a prescription that has been legitimately written because he/she finds the medication "morally questionable."
 
Pharmacists are Not doctors.  They aren't paid to tell you "it's not necessary or it's unwarrented."  The doctor already did that, or at least has that Option as the one Prescribing the Medication in question, or you wouldn't have the prescription in the First Place.  If they want to make the decision about whether it should be given - they should get a Medical Degree, which gives them the training and wherewithall to do so - not a pharmacutical degree which does NOT confer such.


...thank you for your frank answer. It is a complex area in my opinion. It would seem that we can agree that medical professionals can refuse to perform elective procedures that they find morally wrong. Arguably, contraception is also elective in the majority of cases.....please note that i have typed 'the majority of cases'.....if an individual finds the concept of contraception contravenes whatever code they live by then i can see how they'd refuse to offer that service.
The reason this is not an open and shut case is those instances where it is not elective. We have competing rights in this area........given that for every pharmacist who refuses to give out contraception there's another who will, why force people to go against their beliefs? Why not just go to another pharmacist?




camille65 -> RE: Birth control = abortion? (7/24/2008 8:45:04 AM)

Sometimes it isn't as easy as just switching pharmacies.
Insurance problems and not all pharmacies charge equally.

I drive 48 miles one way to get my meds. At that place I pay 790 a month.
Every other pharmacy within easy distance of me charges at the very least 1100 a month. That few hundred dollars makes a big difference in my bank account.

Until I found the place I use now, I had no freaking idea that the cost of prescriptions could vary so greatly.




philosophy -> RE: Birth control = abortion? (7/24/2008 8:50:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: camille65

Sometimes it isn't as easy as just switching pharmacies.
Insurance problems and not all pharmacies charge equally.



....apologies.....having only lived in the UK and Canada, i'd forgotten to factor in the insane US medical system.




hizgeorgiapeach -> RE: Birth control = abortion? (7/24/2008 9:05:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: philosophy
We have competing rights in this area........given that for every pharmacist who refuses to give out contraception there's another who will, why force people to go against their beliefs? Why not just go to another pharmacist?



As easy to ask "If they find it objectionable, why did they take that job in the first place?"  People know, going into a profession such as Pharmacy, that they WILL be handed prescriptions - written by legitimate doctors - for medications or drugs that they Personally object to.  It's part and parcel.  If they find it that objectionable - that they will Refuse To Do Their Job on the basis of it - they are in the Wrong Profession.  Frankly, if I owned a pharmacy, and the person I hired and paid to do the job refused to fill certain prescriptions because he/she had "moral issues" iwith doing so - they'd be Rapidly looking for a different job - for flatly refusing to do the work they are paid to do.




KatyLied -> RE: Birth control = abortion? (7/24/2008 1:13:26 PM)

Camille - do you have mail-order available?  I get my maintenance allergy medication through mail-order (Medco), 3 months for the price of 2 months.  Cuts out all of the trips to the pharmacy and is convenient.




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