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RE: Slave Lust - 7/25/2008 1:06:50 AM

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

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ORIGINAL: lovingpet

Heard of this term? What is it? Could you please explain it as you understand it please?

lovingpet

Slave's obsessive longing for me to bend her over the nearest item of furniture and pound her pussy with wild abandon.

Basically...it's being horny, but from the slave's point of view.

("Dom lust" of course is the desire to take said slave, bend her over the nearest item of furniture and pound her pussy with wild abandon.)

Related to (and often used in conjunction with) "jungle fucking" and "wild hairy monkey sex".

Oh CL... you do know how to get to a woman.

I can't say I've heard the phrase before but, like slave heart and the like, I'd agree with LA that's it is simply a poetic term. Useful as long as one understands that it is simply a poetic term.

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RE: Slave Lust - 7/25/2008 1:32:32 AM

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

I've heard it termed "slave heat". It is somewhat like frenzy. It's that "Oh, ANYTHING for you Master" feeling that sometimes threatens to override our common sense or what we may have previously agreed to. The feeling that you sometimes get when all of your limitations seem unimportant. It could be a kind of a dangerous headspace to be in if you are coupled with someone who would use it to their advantage.

i'd not heard of this term until now, and for me this definition is quite accruate. this is said by someone who is still quite a newbie.

i've only been intimate/naked one-on-one in any context (vanilla or kink) however the last He had me in such a state frequently that i wanted the football team, hell the olympic team to do His bidding to my body. As much as He wanted to see me with others, in the post mortem he always denied me as he viewed it as a betrayal of trust. Being with others is a hard limit (for now). we both knew if anyone else had joined us that after the event i'd hate myself for asking and Him for allowing it to happen.

when i'm there nothing matters, boundaries, safety, just pleasing Him, whatever He's suggested in the past is taken to the nth degree while in that 'slave lust/heat'.

i think real trust needs to be in place first, to feel you can let go like that.

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RE: Slave Lust - 7/25/2008 3:18:12 PM

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That you'll want to lift soft (or hard) limits in the middle of a scene and your Master, being a big meanie, will refuse

*lmao* Dont you just hate it when that happends? your ready for the world... and HE says NO.

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RE: Slave Lust - 7/25/2008 3:35:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: maat

That you'll want to lift soft (or hard) limits in the middle of a scene and your Master, being a big meanie, will refuse

*lmao* Dont you just hate it when that happends? your ready for the world... and HE says NO.

This is a great jumping off point for my update!

I spoke with the person putting me in this state (Can't quite call him Master or any title quite yet), and the talk reassured me of what I thought I already knew. He made it clear he would NOT cross those boundaries while I am not quite so rational. He also put it on the table that, if I ask for something I have resisted over and over again, he will discuss it with me at a calmer time and warn me that I am about to get what I am asking for if I ask one more time. This would only happen if he felt he was having trouble holding up my wall on his own. He said he would do this because the incessant asking may actually begin to come to mean I want to move forward on that area. He does not want me held back or becoming resentful because of a lack of communication. He also does not want to assume anything and risk damaging my trust in him.

I felt very good about these answers. By all means please keep posting both to the OP and this update.

Wishes,
lovingpet

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RE: Slave Lust - 7/25/2008 3:45:10 PM

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Sounds like good answers to me. But in that moment that NO is the worst thing you can ever hear. There is a place you can end up were honestly, you just what more, more of whatever you can get. when im there i cross all my limits, or would do if i was allowed. Im glad my Master can think clearly when this happends becuse i realy cant. Its kinde of a overload of feelings, emotions well, everything realy. i can only imagen how hard it must be to say no when you have someone who so desperatly beggs you for anything she can get *laughs* I like the place, and hate it to. specialy since Master likes to torment me by pointing out i need to learn patience at times like that.

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RE: Slave Lust - 7/25/2008 3:50:43 PM

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Yeah, I don't really do really well with "NO". It ouchies a lot!

Patience would be nice. A thicker skin sometimes would be better.

What has me going now is... what if I can't help that "one more time" even after making it perfectly clear I do NOT want to cross that line? Eeeekkk!

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RE: Slave Lust - 7/25/2008 3:59:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

That you'll act like a giggling doofus for a while.

Define "a while"? For me it has been 4 years. The slave lust remains as strong as ever. I see the look in his eyes, hear the change in his voice...and my inner doof surfaces.

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RE: Slave Lust - 7/25/2008 4:02:08 PM

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"Inner" doof?? Like it can be hidden?

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RE: Slave Lust - 7/25/2008 4:08:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: lovingpet
What has me going now is... what if I can't help that "one more time" even after making it perfectly clear I do NOT want to cross that line? Eeeekkk!

If you go someplace, and it was the wrong thing to do, understand that him taking you there was an honest mistake. It's like any other relationship decision. You're both going to screw up. As long as you both know you are both trying, you will both be able to keep trying.

Long live the inner doof!

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RE: Slave Lust - 7/25/2008 5:07:30 PM

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"Inner" doof?? Like it can be hidden?

you mean i HAVEN'T been hiding it all this time???

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RE: Slave Lust - 7/25/2008 5:11:25 PM

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giggles at the inner doofus

....er... um.... Is it the slave lust again?

hehe

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RE: Slave Lust - 7/25/2008 10:30:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: JulieorSarah
i think real trust needs to be in place first, to feel you can let go like that.

Versus fake trust?

For you perhaps, but not for others.

Which was my point- what is "slave lust" to you is really just lust. You happen to be an s-type so you feel it within that context. A vanilla person feels "vanilla lust" which is something you can never experience because it's not your orientation.

But it's no more intense, special, different than the other.

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RE: Slave Lust - 7/26/2008 9:13:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: lovingpet

What has me going now is... what if I can't help that "one more time" even after making it perfectly clear I do NOT want to cross that line? Eeeekkk!

lovingpet

You tell him that if you can't trust him not to do this until after you've brought it up in a nonplay situation such as meeting for lunch, then you can't trust him enough to play with him.

Either he can stick to his guns or he can't. Telling you it's your fault he can't stay strong doesn't work.

If he doesn't want you begging for the whatever, then he can use a gag so he doesn't have to hear it.

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RE: Slave Lust - 7/26/2008 10:10:33 AM

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I can agree with this. I do, however, think that in these contexts the consequences can (though not always by any means) be more costly. Harm is harm. It is that we are playing a thinner edge to begin with.

Well Wishes,
lovingpet

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RE: Slave Lust - 7/26/2008 10:15:13 AM

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

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ORIGINAL: lovingpet

What has me going now is... what if I can't help that "one more time" even after making it perfectly clear I do NOT want to cross that line? Eeeekkk!

lovingpet

You tell him that if you can't trust him not to do this until after you've brought it up in a nonplay situation such as meeting for lunch, then you can't trust him enough to play with him.

Either he can stick to his guns or he can't. Telling you it's your fault he can't stay strong doesn't work.

If he doesn't want you begging for the whatever, then he can use a gag so he doesn't have to hear it.

Hehe (liking the gag idea)

Anyway.....

I am getting to the place where I understand he is just likes to watch me squirm a little. If that changes, I will not be willing to play until he can convince me he can hold the line for me. It is the logic and common sense I need right now. Thanks for providing it.

Smiles,
lovingpet

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