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ORIGINAL: SweetNika
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The 2nd phase will always be what the fates determine it to be. There will not be away to predict it or influence it, it will simply be. If what your doing is predicated , then I don't believe it is destined. What has happened before cannot be part of destiny. Once we walk down a path, we are not supposed to turn around and walk back over it again and again and again, no matter how worthy the path. That is the nature of destiny. If the 'fates' determine it then isn't it predicted? Why not walk the path again? Perhaps the purpose of that path is to tread it again and again until it is fully known.

During the 1st phase of submissive/slaves life, the challenge is to find personal value and independence. Second, they must discover and accept that they are slaves. Then they must determine that they have the motivation and commitment to become the slave they were meant to be. A person has to know what they can give, and give up to obtain their destiny. The final step is unique to a submissive or slave - it distinguishes them as unique. Who a they are is given over to another person - so they need to find that person that holds their purpose in their hands.
There are reasons we have been selected by the fates for our paths, we can never truly know the reasons. No one but us can complete the tasks the fates destined us to complete. So if you are not submissive or slave you are not unique? I see contradictions all over the place here but what I think it boils down to is that you are saying that there is only one person, just one person that will connect with the s?

Destiny also makes it equally important that dominants find the other part of themselves. Only a destined owner can mold a submissive or slave into what they are destined to be - no other person can develop and mold the slave as their destined owner. I believe that most of life experiences are meant to show us what wont work so that finally our eyes are open to what the fates have in store, which for a submissive or slave is their owner. It is the owner's job to realize the raw material before them, to follow their destiny they must recognize the submissives or slaves puprose. If the submissive or slave refused to obey then the owner can not fulfill his puprose. Likewise the submissive or slave can not serve their pupose. Once completely free to obey the submissive or slave can feel their owners puprose. They will fill directed by the owners spirit. They don't each get two different orders that must be followed. There can be no conflict. The slave knows that the orders the slave feels inside are the same as those given to his Owner. Since there is only one order, there is no conflict. The Owner's job is to both give orders directly and to enforce those orders that are given.In obedience the submissive / slave finds true freedom because they know their owner will issue orders that will protect them in all ways. Do you see dominants and submissives as half people, only becoming whole when meeting their one? How can a dominant recognize the s's purpose when only the fates know that purpose?
It feels that an awful awful lot is to be expected of these perfect dominants who know exactly what that s needs and to do it all without any conflict.

The Owner doesn't have to personally issue every order. Once the slave recognizes that his mind, body and spirit are one with owners, not as his property but as both of them, the slave acts, thinks, loves, and lives for the owner, and only for the owner because that's all there is. There is no separate, distinct person that is slave. I am my own person and always will be. Does that mean that I, as an s type have failed?
Is your end goal to be sublimated and dare I say.. assimilated?

 

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ORIGINAL: camille65

I find the concept a bit claustrophobic myself. It also has a flavor of setting myself up for failure to it which I prefer to avoid.

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ORIGINAL: Leatherist

Ack,no..I don't believe in destiny and "the one".

I'd have to go suck down a bullet if I felt cubbyholed like that-just to be contrary. 

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

The problem with destiny and fate is that it means we have to look into the eyes of an abused child and tell them it's just life working itself out. 

I know I'm not capable of that.

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I think it's great that you've been able to help- but you can't honestly believe in choices if you also believe in destiny.  They can pretend to be making choices, but ultimately it won't matter.  Fate will be fate.

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I see the pink unicorns of castlerealm are still trotting around the web.