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RE: What a woman needs - 7/29/2008 6:50:16 AM   
OTKkindaGirl


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Status: offline 		the article struck a good chord with me but i would never consider it to be what a woman "needs".    i find it to be more accurate in describing the some of the obscure qualities in a a woman that has truly lived life and learned lifes lessons.  it isn't what is "needed" to make a woman.  but the word "freedom"  used to head the article does allow for the growth of such qualities in a "mature woman". 

it takes freedom to learn from lifes lessons.  freedom from worry of others judgement. freedom from the standards placed on each of us in our many different "roles" in life. setting our own standards rather than society's standard or the general consensus of "outsiders".  example.... when i became a new mom, it was frowned upon that i actually stayed home and reared the um's,  folks around me insisted that i wasn't contributing to an already comfortable household.  same women that gave me shit for it, did the same exact thing once they became mothers.  but never did they apologize for their judgements or cruel behaviour or words once the shoe was on their foot.  nor did i expect it from them.  why? i knew that they lacked maturity and grace and that some day they will gain those attributes.  to me, they were childish women with preconcieved notions.  life has given them new perspective.  that is only one of many examples that i can provide.

i think this is the point of the article.  it isn't an agenda, it is a small insight into the characteristics of what makes a woman a "woman" and it is only the tip of iceburg.  but i agree that everything in the article is NOT what a woman "NEEDS", to be a woman.  i do agree that it is freedom that a woman needs to become a woman to her full potential.  and yes, it can be achieved with grace and class and dignity that just makes her stand out among other women.

a woman that is sheltered and subdued however isn't any less a woman, her experiences are still there, just hidden from the judgement of others and hers is a silent growth coming from the inside out.

nobody wants "labels".  life is full of them and the PC just need to freaking get over the damned PCness of everything! 

this could be a beautiful long debate on the quality of women or a huge flamefest in the way that i have been seeing it so far.  i've gotta go to work for the next 12 hours...lol, lets see what happens while i am gone.  and if we want to talk about the positive qualities of men why not start a different thread.  to say that feminine qualities are the same as masculine qualities is just out and out bullshit.  to say there is no balance between the two is also bullshit.  i'm not saying that each is withouth both characteristics but folks need to get a grip.  vive la differance!

no disrespect and sweetness to you all.




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RE: What a woman needs - 7/29/2008 7:14:14 AM   
opposingtwilight


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Women everywhere are like this.




I disagree.


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RE: What a woman needs - 7/29/2008 7:18:22 AM   
seababy


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ORIGINAL: bottomboy81

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Do you think women are more shallow today than in the past?


Don't know, I never lived or experienced how women were before I was born.

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Except that, I can see some cases where everything he said would be true and that just makes me wonder what sort of women he chooses to associate with


I am talking about women as a whole, not just women who I assoiciate with. Women everywhere are like this.




That's amazing "knowing" what people are like that you have never associated with.
That means you have almost god like powers, or your a bigot.
Hmmm I wonder which one?

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RE: What a woman needs - 7/29/2008 7:20:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was going to say something along those lines myself, sea .. 

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RE: What a woman needs - 7/29/2008 7:23:35 AM   
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That's amazing "knowing" what people are like that you have never associated with.
That means you have almost god like powers, or your a bigot.
Hmmm I wonder which one?


Obviously, you don't stop and look at the behaviour and what demands todays women want. But lets be politically correct and deny it all and pretend it never exist.

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RE: What a woman needs - 7/29/2008 12:52:45 PM   
opposingtwilight


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Status: offline 		I'm a today's woman.

I want a lot of things, you've got that right. I don't think I want anything unreasonable, however ... Maybe you could enlighten all of us as to what these demands are?


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RE: What a woman needs - 7/31/2008 6:48:10 AM   
seababy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: bottomboy81

quote:

That's amazing "knowing" what people are like that you have never associated with.
That means you have almost god like powers, or your a bigot.
Hmmm I wonder which one?


Obviously, you don't stop and look at the behaviour and what demands todays women want. But lets be politically correct and deny it all and pretend it never exist.


Oh pleeeeease!!!
It is nothing about being politically correct.
You make statements encompassing "all" women, talk about women's demands (still unspecified).
These are all generalised whimpers of complaint because I suspect your "do me" demands are not being met.
OK so your not getting WE GET THAT.

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RE: What a woman needs - 7/31/2008 7:04:29 AM   
OnlyHisLovebug


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Status: offline 		bottomboy...for the sake of argument, I will take the bait. Since I don't know what you are talking about, I also obviously don't stop and look at the behavior and demands that are indicitive of todays women (which would include myself, since you have made your post all inclusive for everyone of my gender).  Please, do enlighten me?  I really want to know...  

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RE: What a woman needs - 8/3/2008 11:13:28 PM   
Psychodahlia


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Status: offline 		I'll be honest, the article was a bunch of psuedo-intellectual/philosophical bullshit that told me nothing. I need a comfortable pair of sneakers, a lifetime supply of Dr. Pepper, a job after college, and someone to spank. Everything else is just whipped cream on the naked body, waiting to be licked off.

This thread is saved however, by the hilarity of bottomboy. Thanks for the laugh, Dude.

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RE: What a woman needs - 8/3/2008 11:21:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Psychodahlia

I'll be honest, the article was a bunch of psuedo-intellectual/philosophical bullshit that told me nothing. I need a comfortable pair of sneakers, a lifetime supply of Dr. Pepper, a job after college, and someone to spank. Everything else is just whipped cream on the naked body, waiting to be licked off.

This thread is saved however, by the hilarity of bottomboy. Thanks for the laugh, Dude.


Ummm, you forgot Tiger Woods 09 for the XBOX 360. If you don't want it, give it to me :-D

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RE: What a woman needs - 8/3/2008 11:29:19 PM   
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RE: What a woman needs - 8/4/2008 12:50:13 AM   
DelilahDeb


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I

I am I.
Whatever and whoever, here, now.
Alone I am, and not alone, but separate.
con-sciousness is yet discrete.

I am
I am a man
I am a woman

I am free
I am young
I am old

I am peculiar to me

I don't require explanation; just let me be

copyright 1970, 2008, D.S. All rights reserved.

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RE: What a woman needs - 8/4/2008 3:50:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Do I have to read all of that?  Can I get the Reader's Digest condensed version?

What I NEED is a local subby boy with really strong hands.  My feet and back are a misery.

Sea!  Are you working on those clones yet?


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RE: What a woman needs - 8/4/2008 6:10:14 AM   
undergroundsea


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Sea!  Are you working on those clones yet?


I'm trying! I had vague memory of this website with instruction for how to make your own clones. It turns out I misremembered it. It was instead a site for how to make your own cones. So anyway, I did enjoy some icecream as a result ;-)

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: What a woman needs - 8/4/2008 6:13:25 AM   
MsStarlett


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Status: offline 		hmmmmm..... Ice Cream.....

No!  Thanks.  I can't have anymore.  *pout*  I've been a very bad Domme.  I've gained THREE POUNDS!  To many cookouts, Jelly Donuts (It's a drink with Rum), and ice cream.  I gotta hit the tread mill.... I HATE the tread mill....

Wonder if I could just make some of my boys do that for me?


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