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lilsubl -> RE: Grammatical annoyances (7/28/2008 7:23:18 PM)

i have difficulty with farther & further...i think that farther is to be used with distance, but i could be wrong...i'm always meaning to look it up......




smartalex -> RE: Grammatical annoyances (7/28/2008 7:23:42 PM)

I violate Strunk's 13th rule "Omit Needless Words". All. the. time. I think I have fallen in love with the sound of my own typing.




Shadow-tiger -> RE: Grammatical annoyances (7/28/2008 7:54:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: favesclava

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ORIGINAL: shadowt-tiger
Personally I have this habit of reuising the same word multiple times in the same sentence.


i'm not a perfect linguist . i'm not a pro at grammar. i do have a  sense of humor about my foibles.

Because it's funny and you know it. [;)] Also, DOH!!!!




SoulPiercer -> RE: Grammatical annoyances (7/28/2008 8:02:29 PM)

Then instead of Than.
Your instead of You're
There instead of Their
And ....
People who are seeking a Dominate.

Ya'll feelin'me, yo?
Holla




christine1 -> RE: Grammatical annoyances (7/28/2008 8:06:22 PM)

when someone uses seen instead of saw.  like, "i seen a cow yesterday."  




impishlilhellcat -> RE: Grammatical annoyances (7/28/2008 8:06:50 PM)

oo the Dominate one drives me crazy.... But then again I'm not one to talk about grammar. I'm a scientist who cares if there is a period or an apostrophe or even capitalization :P Actually that's not entirely true. I've learned to be better since working on academic articles, but most of the time I'm horrible.




impishlilhellcat -> RE: Grammatical annoyances (7/28/2008 8:08:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: christine1

when someone uses seen instead of saw.  like, "i seen a cow yesterday."  



They say that a lot in Oklahoma. When I first moved down here I had to get used to bout ready and might would if I could... There are phrases I still have to go oh wait say that again.




MistressPav -> RE: Grammatical annoyances (7/28/2008 8:09:13 PM)

I always trip over the "ie" or "ei", because that stupid " i before e " doesn't always work.
And, I can never figure out whether it's "Affect" or "Effect"  
I'm sooo confused  o.O




BossyShoeBitch -> RE: Grammatical annoyances (7/28/2008 8:13:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cuddlemesoft1

I second guess myself all the time. When I am writing or speaking I will use a word then wonder if I used it correctly or I will wonder if I spelled something correctly. Often it may be very simple words that will look incorrect to me when they are fine. Go figure? This is after I majored in Technical Writing and at the time I was the go to person when it came to spelling or grammer. Twelve years later and I don't know my its from my it's. 

It's always nice to be the go to person for spelling and GRAMMAR isn't it?




smartalex -> RE: Grammatical annoyances (7/28/2008 8:28:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressPav

I always trip over the "ie" or "ei", because that stupid " i before e " doesn't always work.



Two hints from a grammar nerd:  First, there's more to the i/e rule.

I before E
except after C
Or sounding as A
as in "neighbor" or "weigh"

Of course that doesn't help for weird, so I usually get that wrong.

And if you go with "affect" for the verb and "effect" for the noun, you'll usually get it right. (There are exceptions, just like weird. Pesky irritants.) The Grammar Girl has a cute cartoon. http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/affect-versus-effect.aspx





jlf1961 -> RE: Grammatical annoyances (7/28/2008 10:52:10 PM)

Gee, does this mean that the following should not be used?

Gotted, Past tense of got
see'd past tense of see
goned past tense of gone
dided, past tense of did
I didnt done it.  > self explanitory.




sunshinemiss -> RE: Grammatical annoyances (7/28/2008 11:54:52 PM)

Hello,

I hate when people correct other people's grammatical mistakes... If you know what someone is saying, it's just plain bull shit rude to correct them.  I don't walk around correcting people's speech... "so, waddya gonna do tanight?"  I don't say "correct pronunciation is:  so, what are you going to do tonight"  Get the fuck off your high horse I say...

And besides, we all know,
I am sunshine and I am THE grammar goddess... behold the proof:

from this thread:   http://www.collarchat.com/m_1547412/mpage_6/key_verb/tm.htm#1561708


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

Revised yet again. We don't do this many rounds of revisions at work!

Okay... it's not a diagram, cause I don't know how to do that... but... here is the explanation as I understand it....
 
and please can I have a shot of bourbon after that work?
 
thanks.. hugs.. sunshine miss

Do twue submissives
Do - questioning auxiliary verb, twue - chatspeak for the adjective "true", submissives - plural noun, subject of the sentence.
 
who use safe words
who - relative pronoun indicating a renaming of the subject , use - secondary verb, safe - adj, words - direct object
 
while cheating in real time
while - adverb of time, cheating present progressive verb, in preposition, real - adjective, time - object of the preposition
 
on their spouses - prepositional phrase - on is the preposition, their is a possessive adjective, spouses - object of the preposition
 
to engage - full infinitive verb
 
in forced bisexuality - another prepositional phrase... forced is an adjective and bisexuality is the obj of the prep
 
with a pro domme another prep phrase... with is the prep, a is the article, pro is short for the adjective professional, domme is the obj of the prep
 
(who is actually
who - another relative pronoun, is - state of being verb, actually adverb, a = article to signify a countable noun to follow,
 
a switch
switch - a verb which has come to be used as a noun in this community, a restatement of the relative pronoun
in her private life ) - yet another prepositional phrase - in his prep, her is poss adj, private is adj, modifying the noun life (obj of the prep of course)
 
and
a conjunction - remember School House Rock?  Conjunction Junction, what's your function?
 
as it happens - you got me on this one...
 
very kind about explaining
very - adverb modifying kind, kind is an adj modifying the switch, about is a prep, explaining is a gerund (a verb used as a noun v-ing) as the obj of the prep and concurrently as the verb of the relative pronoun phrase
 
the vanilla ice cream cone to newbies)
the - article, vanilla - adj, ice cream  to newbies - prep phrase
 
tend  main verb of the sentence (FINALLY) 
 
to be 
to be - full stative verb infinitive
 
fatter than
fatter - comparative adjective of the adj fat, helping word used with comparitives
 
fake no-limits slaves
fake and no-limits are adjectives.  no limits is a special kind wherein we take two words that are not adjs, combine them with a dash and voila!
slaves - comparative noun (2nd noun needed in the N1 er + than + N2 equation)
 
with shaved pubic hair
with - prep, shaved and pubic are adjectives modiying the obj of the prep hair in this prep phrase
 
who use S/slash speak
who - another relative pronoun... use verb of the relative pronoun phrase, S/slash - colloquialism of the BDSM community signifying the symbiotic relationship between the "catchers" and the "pitchers" speak - direct object of the relative noun phrase
 
while topping from the bottom
while - adverb of time, topping - present progressive ving used without the "understood" to be verb (is),
from the bottom - another prep phrase  from as prep, the as article, bottom as obj of the prep
 
 
in polyamorous cybersex 
another obvious prep phrase. in = prep, polyamorous = adj, cybersex = obj of the prep
 
with smartass masochists 
same - with = prep, smartass = adj, masochoists = plural countable noun/obj of the prep
 
who refer -
another relative pronoun plus verb(note that the verb is in the third person usage)
 
to themselves
prep phrase - to = prep, themselves = poss adj used as a pronoun and obj of the prep
 
in the third person  -
prep phrase - in = prep, the = article, third = ordinal number adjective
 
 
but -
conjunction hooking up words and clauses and phrases
 
do not take the time
do - auxiliary verb used with the word "not" to indicate negativity.
take  = main verb of the secondary section of the sentence, the = article, time = direct object
 
to read profiles carefully
to read - full infinitive profiles = direct object and carefully is an adverb (is that the FIRST adverb besides very? hmmm)
 
before writing to someone?
before = adverb of time, writing = secondary verb in a time related sentence , to = preposition, someone = positive pronoun used in questions
 





I'm just saying.

_____________________________

edited cause I always meant to highlight that danged verb.




GreedyTop -> RE: Grammatical annoyances (7/28/2008 11:59:34 PM)

*adores Sunny*




Strongmindbody -> RE: Grammatical annoyances (7/29/2008 12:18:36 AM)

Okay, I get riled up when "lie" and "lay" get misused. All the time, it seems.

Lie is intransitive. It is not a verb that acts on some object.
Lay is transitive. It does act on an object.

So you LIE down.
And you LAY somebody.

Isn't it obvious? Happy to help.




sunshinemiss -> RE: Grammatical annoyances (7/29/2008 12:19:33 AM)

aww I lubs you too girlie.....

but back to the topic at hand... I will admit that in life in general I had a boss who said "it breaks up the monopoly of the day" and I just never respected him again... sigh...

As for CM, the "dominant/dominate" thing does irritate me but hey, I know that one is being used as a noun (after having been altered from an adjective), one as a verb... Read from context - it's what I tell all my students ...and if they can get it (despite Arabic, Japanese, Tagalog, or Korean being their first language - all of which have completely different alphabets), we all can deal with it...

piece and pashmina,
sunshine




cravesdom -> RE: Grammatical annoyances (7/29/2008 12:24:46 AM)

I had a coworker who always said the word "reinterate" instead of reiterate. We used to laugh every time he said it, which was often.




Shadow-tiger -> RE: Grammatical annoyances (7/29/2008 12:28:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

I will admit that in life in general I had a boss who said "it breaks up the monopoly of the day" and I just never respected him again... sigh...

That one just hurts my brain. Wow.




Strongmindbody -> RE: Grammatical annoyances (7/29/2008 12:31:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss
piece and pashmina,


Love it when a women like you can chose there words a little wierd for a special affect.




sunshinemiss -> RE: Grammatical annoyances (7/29/2008 12:32:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Strongmindbody

Okay, I get riled up when "lie" and "lay" get misused. All the time, it seems.

Lie is intransitive. It is not a verb that acts on some object.
Lay is transitive. It does act on an object.

So you LIE down.
And you LAY somebody.

Isn't it obvious? Happy to help.


Okay, *puts on the grammar goddess hat... It's not so much that lie and lay are an issue
(We lie down to lie to our therapists).  The problem is in the past and the past participle forms.

Lie - to recline
I lie on the couch.
I lay on the couch last night.
I have lain on the couch in the past.

Lay - to put or place
The hen lay an egg.
The hen laid an egg yesterday.
The hen has laid eggs in the past.

THE PAST OF LIE IS LAY

This is the problem...
*********************************
As for farther and further:
It USED TO BE that farther was for physical distance
(Don't drive any farther.)

and further was for conceptual distance or metaphor...
(It couldn't be further from the truth).

Now, however, they are used in basically the same way.  Don't sweat that one.

Now I'm going to go lie in my bed  which is father from the clock that I lay on the desk but I will get further in my REM cycle with it set thusly. 

Oh god, I am such a geek.
yeah, night,
sunshines





sunshinemiss -> RE: Grammatical annoyances (7/29/2008 12:36:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Strongmindbody


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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss
piece and pashmina,


Love it when a women like you can chose there words a little wierd for a special affect.


that's funny....*hands you a funny geek button that matches my own.




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