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RE: Annoying slaves? - 7/29/2008 6:57:28 PM

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Welcome to the world of the "do me do".

Ask them if they do windows and shampoo carpets. That will shut down about 90% of the idiocy.

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RE: Annoying slaves? - 7/29/2008 6:59:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: MstrTiger

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ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

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Steel, he's gay. Different dynamic.

he's also from CUMbria UK....

I don’t think my location has and importance with regards to the issue I am talking about I chat to and have met slaves from all over the world. I am not totally sure if my sexuality has much to do with it also.

Well done for pointing out that the county I live in has the word cum in it also, personally I also find it hilarious the abbreviation for my counties University is UCUM which is even more amusing.

i just found it funny thats why i pointed it out

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RE: Annoying slaves? - 7/29/2008 8:22:20 PM

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Ah, your meaning is becoming clear. We on the subly side call them trolls. Here's how a chat with a troll might go.

Troll: So, are you happy with your dom?
Sub: Yes.
T: Are you a good sub?
S: He says so.
T: How do you show him your submission?
S: I obey him, of course. Look after his needs. Those sorts of things.
T: How do you pay tribute to him in the bedroom?
S: Isn't that a little personal?
T: Do you suck his cock?
T: Can you say none of your business?
T: If you say so, but that's not very submissive of you.
S: Good thing I'm not your sub, then.

This is pretty close to an actual conversation I had once. For this there is only one answer: block-delete.

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RE: Annoying slaves? - 7/29/2008 10:49:12 PM

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Why not create a manual? If nothing else, its a huge exercise in, "Who am I?"

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RE: Annoying slaves? - 7/30/2008 1:49:58 AM

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I agree! I finally rewrote my profile to reflect exactly what I was looking for. Now I get almost no email. Is my profile intimidating? Maybe to some. Is it un-sexy because I don't talk about my sex life or fetishes or include hot pics? Probably. So be it. I personally believe that no email is better that the garbage I was getting, as faerytattoodgirl points out.

If someone comes along and reads my profile and appreciates it then right away we have a similar POV, and that's a good start.

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The absolute #1 thing that made the difference between me not meeting people online-to-real, and actually meeting them, was cutting out the timewasters.

my profile has taken care of the time wasters...to the point where i get no emails from outside of the forums at all. the emails that i did get outside of the forums were one liner's and the occassional form letter that goes around to everyone. i might get one every now and then asking what intersexed is. i explain..then they dont write back LOL.

if a profile is done correctly you can save alot of time and issues. if you have a one or two line profile...your gonna get hundreds of emails....

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RE: Annoying slaves? - 7/30/2008 5:14:23 AM

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I don’t get the impression they are tying to become what I am looking for I am more inclined to get the impression that they are ignoring what I am while trying to script me as an actor in their fantasies.

I don’t mind guiding slaves though a learning experience, I actually quite like it, though being asked to go though every infinitesimal detail of my existence several times a day does get somewhat wearing after a while, that is were the manual idea comes into play. Now that you mention it I do think that having no slaves interested in me would be a much worse thing, it is the feeling that I get from some slaves that you must fit into this exact box shaped hole they have in their lives and if bits of you don’t then they will ignore them and pretend they don’t exist and just utilize the pieces they want. I like to learn about people though chatting to them and getting to know them not asking them many questions that make people feel like they are being interviewed for a position in a meat processing factory or something.

Obviously I am not saying that all the potential slaves that approach me are like that though quite a few of the recent ones have been.

Now I think I see what your getting at, and yes that would be frustrating. A slave problem?
Maybe more a problem of the human condition. People trying to shape reality and other personalities to fit their kinky cookie cutter fantasies.
Yes questions need to be asked, but I guess its nice if it flows easily as you build a repoir instead of feeling like your standing in front of a verbal firing squad.
However your young, beautiful, articulate and obviously receiving a lot of offers.
(Some will have to be good right? Its a numbers game)
Sooooo only a tiny bit of sympathy here.

Good luck in your search.
Hope you find someone wonderful, and you don't have to filter through too many wankers to find him.

Cheers

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RE: Annoying slaves? - 7/30/2008 5:18:40 AM

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And one distinct difference here.

Slave=wants to do your bidding.

Bottom=wants you to do thiers.

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RE: Annoying slaves? - 7/30/2008 8:41:00 AM

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i thought i read several years ago a website you designed where you were very clear about who you were and what you were looking for, and i remember being impressed with the graphics and your clarity, so i am surprised to hear you say this today.

but i can sympathise, i hate being made to feel like a "fetish delivery device", but i think it may just be par for the course because you are so physically attrative and so clearly dominant i could see how many a boy would fetishise you....and part of them doing that would be to ask as many questions as you would allow them audience for....all attention is good attention to their minds.

a good approach is to ask questions back like "why do you wish to know this?"

sometimes folks need a little light shined on their atrocious table manners. its not that they don't know better, its just that the food they are eating is so delicious, and they have been starving for some time, so accidentally make a pig of themselves...

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RE: Annoying slaves? - 7/30/2008 9:18:11 AM

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MstrTiger think what you are getting at is they are not listening too you? Most importantly of what you want. People even chatting lose sight of the other person involved and will ignore their feelings some by accident and some due to their egos.

Like I told students for years the only Dumb questions are those not asked! But on the other hand we can say Bye and see you if we dont like their questions, all our own choice of course.

Your time is yours and very important to you. Please dont feel that you must answer them all either.

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RE: Annoying slaves? - 7/30/2008 9:34:04 AM

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Personally, a lot depends on the questions asked. I'll answer that eleventy bajillion questions, if they're about me, my predilections, the way I am dominant, my preferences, and my life. I won't answer even eleven questions if you're going to ask me to write out the exact order of a specific scene. I don't mind letting a ptotential sub get to know me, but I do mind feeling like they're trying to get me to agree to some specific fantasy that they want to experience.

I'm not a pro Domme, so while I do take some care to make sure that people I'm playing with are also enjoying the scenes, I'm not going to run a scene straight from an unknown sub/slave's mind that doesn't take my preferences into consideration. I understand where you're coming from, but when I start to feel like this, I generally consider it natural selection - they've deselected themselves from my consideration.

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RE: Annoying slaves? - 7/30/2008 12:34:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress

sometimes folks need a little light shined on their atrocious table manners. its not that they don't know better, its just that the food they are eating is so delicious, and they have been starving for some time, so accidentally make a pig of themselves...

What a very nice analogy! Thank you!!

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RE: Annoying slaves? - 7/30/2008 1:32:07 PM

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I feel it's part and parcel of the Internet, where it would appear the majority are busy talking about it, and the minority are either being it or doing it.

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RE: Annoying slaves? - 7/30/2008 4:27:39 PM

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Tiger Dom;

Interesting post. Even far more interesting web site. I must admit that your web site seem to be an exercise in ego as oppose to an exercise in education. But then that is my perception. Also, I'm curious...the advice you give...is it meant to cater to the gay leather scene? or a pansexual scene? The tone you take...this mantra of indifference you speak of may work with the boys...but definately does not work with women. I think in this climate both in the UK and in the U.S., a sense of mutual need is ever so critical. For it will be those acts and behavior that show my need for my slave that will actually empower her. On yoru web site you mention a need to instill upon a slave how important it is they realize that they need you far more then you'll ever need them. If this is something you use to strictly try to establish power and that foundation of control then fine, but if you truely accept that to be taught as a rule of thumb then I fear you may be taking liberties that you may not have any right to be taking. Remember TD...what your web site is strictly your opinion.

So when you ask why they ask stupid questions....remember...it's only you who feels they are stupid. They're asked because they need to be asked. Don't you feel that we as Dominants ask soome pretty stupid questions ourselves? Or does you ego presume to assume that because we are Dominant that we're absolved from the stupidity factor?

Anyway...just my opinoin.

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RE: Annoying slaves? - 7/30/2008 7:23:05 PM

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When Master use to speak to submissives in this forum he would get frustrated with thier lack of questions...

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RE: Annoying slaves? - 7/30/2008 7:58:34 PM

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I think the OP's sexuality is relevant as there are wayyyy more "do me" boys than there are girls it seems! Fem Dommes cop them all the time too and it can get frustrating. The "yes i'll be your undying slave Ma'am ... as long as you'll let me do the housework naked/in a french maid's outfit/in leather harness/in high heels etcetc ... and as long as you'll spank me every day and force me to suck cock and make me drink of your nectar and lick your ass and ... " well you all get the idea! No consideration as to whether I WANT all those "services" on a daily basis! ARGH! I am fairly sure the same attitude occurs in the gay community, I know 2 great gay male Doms in Perth and they have expressed similar frustrations with some of the boys there.

As to the "disinterest" thing, from My observations, the dynamic in the gay scene is a bit different from that in the het scene, particularly amongst gay males rather than women. There is a bit more distance maintained between D and s, yet no less actual caring. It's really a matter of what the couple works out that works for them. I really appreciated getting to know the guys in Perth (and who better to learn CBT from

) and to observe their dynamic, especially as they were the only others locally to be working with poly.

To the OP ... if You get the impression that the boys are do me boys ... block can be Your best friend! And I agree, get them out in real to meet as soon as possible, that can be a great filter as suggested. Good luck!

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RE: Annoying slaves? - 8/1/2008 8:07:32 AM

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The Queen was in Cumbria recently, and my first thought was "I wonder if Master Tiger saw her"!

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RE: Annoying slaves? - 8/1/2008 8:09:47 AM

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kinda OT here..but I just love her smile :)

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RE: Annoying slaves? - 8/1/2008 8:13:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

Why not create a manual? If nothing else, its a huge exercise in, "Who am I?"

Master Fire - comes with manual

funny you should say that i got a contract to write one two days ago.......thing is though, as it's from real life... will anyone believe it?

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RE: Annoying slaves? - 8/1/2008 8:14:02 AM

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She does have a lovely smile, doesn't she? Particularly in that second photo.

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RE: Annoying slaves? - 8/1/2008 8:25:10 AM

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she sure does :)

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