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RedMagic1 -> RE: Politically Conservative BDSMers? (8/1/2008 7:04:53 AM)

Since the most valuable thing that's come out of this thread so far is vocabulary building, I'd like to point out that "August" means  "inspiring awe or admiration; majestic."  Like Caesar Augustus.  The OP's nick is ratcheted a level up from LordMasterHighOne.  I find Uberdoms so cuddly and cute.  Don't you?

My own qualifications for this post are that I live in my mother's basement, I have never held a job, I will finally achieve my GED by 2010, and I just learned that a head of lettuce named Ralph is cyberdating the same woman I am.



christine1 -> RE: Politically Conservative BDSMers? (8/1/2008 7:09:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Allondra

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ORIGINAL: Augustone

I I've been accused of [....] being an insufferable egoist by Allondra a Gorgon Headed Grandma Clampett Domme.



Heyhey, the Great One noticed me!  And now I have a quote to put in my .sig!!  Oh, this is a great day so far.

-- Allondra the Gorgon Headed Grandma Clampett Domme.  *snort*



congrats!  that is how i got my godzilla quote in my sig line...from some "dom" who couldn't handle my online "no thanks" to him.  it's definitely chuckle worthy.



LATEXBABY64 -> RE: Politically Conservative BDSMers? (8/1/2008 7:15:06 AM)

I am a conservitive perc i am proud of it          While other can not see the light at the end of the tunnel oh well sucks to be you
lol  people are always going to try decide what is write and wrong now take me i just do not care  my world does not end here
if this site would disapere most would just go about doing there day to day things not care of your lib or conserv  

   So what you to decide is how your going to do your walk ..your daily walking with you. try not to be so analytical to the point you ruin every great thing that comes in your life  you will never have any time to enjoy it 




Prinsexx -> RE: Politically Conservative BDSMers? (8/1/2008 7:17:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bipolarber

Oh, and I agree with the earlier posters... this thread really should be moved to "off topic discussions."

i've tried to keep it on topic by making it about strong women....ahhh welll....
but i agree the last thing i do is lay back and think of England[:D]



rookey -> RE: Politically Conservative BDSMers? (8/1/2008 7:22:57 AM)

I think you're refering to those 'conservatives' who only want economic liberty and not societal liberty.  Anything goes in terms of the economy, little or no state-intervention.  But the values of society must be kept the same no matter what; no votes for women, no marriages for gays, no equality for blacks, etc.  The laws shouldn't be changed and so this status quo remains.  In other words, right-wingers.

We all make sense of the world around us using ideas, and it appears you're viewing the world through the prism of the single-dimensional axis of left versus right.  The nasty, minority hating right-wingers in one corner and the enlightened left in the other.

Not everyone's world-view can be placed along this single axis.  Hence it is an overly simplified way of looking at things and hence your opinion is likewise overly simplified and ill informed.

Try using the two-dimensional nolan chart instead and perhaps your thinking will be more nuanced.

It has one axis for economic freedom and another for societal freedom.  That is, freedom from state-intervention in both cases.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolan_chart

The folks your banging on about want plenty of the former and little of the latter, which may be fine for them, but perhaps tough cheese for others.

I'm relatively high on both scales.  I don't believe the state should intervene heavily in the running of businesses nor people's lives.  I don't believe in either an abundance of red tape and bans on gay marriages.

Just my tuppence worth.



Prinsexx -> RE: Politically Conservative BDSMers? (8/1/2008 7:23:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

Since the most valuable thing that's come out of this thread so far is vocabulary building, I'd like to point out that "August" means  "inspiring awe or admiration; majestic."  Like Caesar Augustus.  The OP's nick is ratcheted a level up from LordMasterHighOne.  I find Uberdoms so cuddly and cute.  Don't you?

My own qualifications for this post are that I live in my mother's basement, I have never held a job, I will finally achieve my GED by 2010, and I just learned that a head of lettuce named Ralph is cyberdating the same woman I am.


you know what they say about people who live in little boxes......
There's a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky-tacky
And they all look just the same.
2. And the people in the houses
All go to the university,
And they all get put in boxes,
Little boxes, all the same.
And there's doctors and there's lawyers
And business executives,
And they're all made out of ticky-tacky
And they all look just the same.

3. And they all play on the golf-course,
And drink their Martini dry,
And they all have pretty children,
And the children go to school.
And the children go to summer camp
And then to the university,
And they all get put in boxes
And they all come out the same.
4. And the boys go into business,
And marry, and raise a family

And they all get put in boxes,
Little boxes, all the same.
There's a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky-tacky
And they all look just the same.....






CruelDesires -> RE: Politically Conservative BDSMers? (8/1/2008 7:27:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

Since the most valuable thing that's come out of this thread so far is vocabulary building, I'd like to point out that "August" means  "inspiring awe or admiration; majestic."  Like Caesar Augustus.  The OP's nick is ratcheted a level up from LordMasterHighOne.  I find Uberdoms so cuddly and cute.  Don't you?

My own qualifications for this post are that I live in my mother's basement, I have never held a job, I will finally achieve my GED by 2010, and I just learned that a head of lettuce named Ralph is cyberdating the same woman I am.



Hey! I saw her first!

Ralph.



RCdc -> RE: Politically Conservative BDSMers? (8/1/2008 7:46:05 AM)

This is Darcy (not sure if I'm the bad poet, or if the.dark is - have to get back to you on that one)

I'd just like to offer my thanks to the almighty Augustone, for he, in his vastly superior wisdom, and with his skyscraping intellect, has given this ordinary prole a good hearty belly laugh this fine afternoon.

If I live to be 100 and devote all my aspirations to achieving even half of the majestic glories that the Augustone has been covered in, I doubt I could muster the greatness required to shrug off my soul-crushing ordinaryness and elevate myself to the truly awe-inspiring plane that the Augustone clearly inhabits.

Sir, you are an inspiration, a marvel, a wonder, and truly a legend in your own mind.



Leatherist -> RE: Politically Conservative BDSMers? (8/1/2008 7:48:17 AM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4KfJztaJ5I



Thadius -> RE: Politically Conservative BDSMers? (8/1/2008 7:50:49 AM)

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So tell me, how do you rationalize this position? You claim to be pro-US Constitution, yet conservatives these days are all about supporting (and continuing via candidate McSame) an administration that believes in wire tapping, torture, and holding people for years on end without trial, or even offical charges?





We can take that discussion over to the other board.

However to respond quickly, it is the same way that not all liberals believe in banning everything.



RCdc -> RE: Politically Conservative BDSMers? (8/1/2008 9:11:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Augustone
Oooooooh a message board cluster-fuck. Now I remember why I don't bother with virtual life, message boards and unmoderated group-think.


The messageboard is moderated - quite extensively.  It is interesting that you have not decided to hang around or participate long enough to experience this.  Personally, despite what has been said by a few others, I can see why this is BDSM related and not simply a political topic and this coupld be why it has not been moved.  It is specific after all.

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Well, this is a hotbed of intellectual exchange, debate and discussion, isn't it.


Well, it could be if you decide to stick around and debate and not run away/leave/exit via the side door.  It would also be much more a debate when you discuss via questions and response, rather than generalised statements with little truth.  Discussion is discourse where you speak, share and listen to others POV.  Your actions exude that you are not willing to do any of the forementioned.
Pity.  There are some wonderful debates that do occur.  But this is your loss as they will continue with or without you.

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No one has (to this point) addressed a thing (or things) I've contended. Just the usual low-brow ping-pong.


There was no real point other than all conservatives are bad.  Now whilst there are some conservative issues that are inherently flawed, that does not mean that all conservative views are.  You could take a number of issues from all political, religious, belief system standpoints and find flaws somewhere.

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What I've gotten for my time invested is ad hominem attacks and a Greek chorus of vague rejoinder and group self-congratulation.


And your post was nothing more than an ad hominem attack.  If you wish to have intellectual discourse, then remain.  If not then you leave.  Prove me in error - that you are more than just a fundemental believer of your own system.  It was not an attack, simply an observation.

quote:

Congratulations....I can't bothered.


Your loss and have a wonderful life.

quote:

Perhaps I should have identified myself as a Male Heterosexual Dominant of Long Experience (which I am). Or mentioned that I'm well known, respected and highly paid in my field....creative professional. Y'all respond to authority? There's some for you. I don't usually bother with that either.


And this matters why?  Your stature and position are of no consequence.  At least, not to me.

quote:

Instead of advocating for sexual, gender, and political rights for those on the margins of official culture I should have claimed authority. The heat would have been less intense - I suspect my prominent mention of gay people brought out the worst sort of sublimated fear and loathing.


Your orignal post never advocated anything.  It simply bemoaned about Conservatives.  If there was a point, other than to complain about conservative BDSMers and their (apparently to you) double standards, it was lost because of your loathing and dare I say hate.  Like many self porclaimed activists of any group, when hate gets in the way and you lose the will to listen, then the point sinks in the mire you create by mud slinging.

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Although I'm sexually straight, gay folk (in S.F./NYC early on) took the time to mentor me in the fine art of BDSM (how to Top as I'm 100% Dom) before all the regular folk (like y'all) showed up.


Again, your position and stature have no importance.  I am not one to be swayed by self congratulating antics.  You are above all, a person and human first and foremost.  The rest is just fluff and seasoning.

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Now, let me see. I've been accused of spewing hate by the two-headed collaboration darcyandthedark a... bad poet and a cheesy aesthete from the UK, of being an insufferable egoist by Allondra a Gorgon Headed Grandma Clampett Domme. That's gagger enough for me. I'm outta here.


Thank you for noticing.  And now, you have.

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Took a punt on the boards - but like every other 'community board it's lowest common denominator rules - and now I'm back to real life for good and all (talk to and congratulate each other) .


I am answering with the absolute knowledge that you are reading this and the vague thought that you may respond to continue your discussion.  I would much rather have a discussion on your topic, but if you must depart, then do.

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Bye all. 


Goodbye.
 
the.dark.



LaTigresse -> RE: Politically Conservative BDSMers? (8/1/2008 9:23:27 AM)

Using fast reply btw........

Well geez, that was an interesting read. I learned new words, laughed, rolled my eyes a few times, smiled and snorted. It's all good.



Lordandmaster -> RE: Politically Conservative BDSMers? (8/1/2008 9:31:17 AM)

Sigh.  You mean "scare quotes," not "parens."

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

I've found as many (if not more) "liberals" to be closed minded than many "conservatives" that I've known in my life.  And I've known many of both strip.

Observation:

Notice the parens around both terms.  There is good reason for that, as both terms are variously defined, used and misused and depend much on the politics of the individual, as well as their national and cultural environment.



FirmhandKY -> RE: Politically Conservative BDSMers? (8/1/2008 10:02:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Sigh.  You mean "scare quotes," not "parens."


You are correct that the words were in quotes, not parens.

Didn't know you joined the grammar police LaM. [:)]

Never heard of "scare quotes" however.

Firm



Sundowner -> RE: Politically Conservative BDSMers? (8/1/2008 11:04:40 AM)

 




Don't mock him (tho he's gone) - feel sorry for him.

Think what a shit life he must lead; such a sad, desperate longing to be important.




stella41b -> RE: Politically Conservative BDSMers? (8/1/2008 3:59:35 PM)

Sorry for asking, but is this the thread about Greek mythology?



Lucylastic -> RE: Politically Conservative BDSMers? (8/1/2008 4:15:10 PM)

Im looking for the low brow ping pong games, it should be visually pleasing.
I think he was just bored and decided to troll..... even 100% doms cant resist a quick in and out
Waves to the august one



petdave -> RE: Politically Conservative BDSMers? (8/1/2008 4:45:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

Since the most valuable thing that's come out of this thread so far is vocabulary building, I'd like to point out that "August" means  "inspiring awe or admiration; majestic."  Like Caesar Augustus.  The OP's nick is ratcheted a level up from LordMasterHighOne.  I find Uberdoms so cuddly and cute. 


Perhaps you're reading too much into it, and had he deigned to grace us with his wisdom a day earlier, we would be discussing JulyThirtyFirst? After all, outside of the entertainment industry, respected professionals rarely spend much time worrying about such trivialities as what false name to use.



RedMagic1 -> RE: Politically Conservative BDSMers? (8/1/2008 5:07:12 PM)

Being all Sherlockydom, I noticed his join date was in April 08.

-- LordHighYodaOfTheCornfield



goodgirl08 -> RE: Politically Conservative BDSMers? (8/1/2008 5:20:43 PM)

Political conservatism is just that. It doesn't necessarily make someone conservative in other areas. I've never really encountered anyone who's a social conservative on here, just fiscal conservatives really. And although I don't usually agree, I don't think that makes anyone a jerk, it's really just a different way of seeing the world. As long as Dick Cheney doesn't start posting here I'm fine.



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