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RE: Anthrax Evidence - 8/6/2008 4:39:34 PM   
DomKen


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From the same article " investigators concluded in 2005 that Hatfill couldn't have had access to a crucial flask of anthrax spores."

The simple fact is you used a news reports sloppy language to try and discredit my statement. The fact remains Hatfill never worked in the laboratory where the anthrax strain was kept. That he worked at the same physical site is irrelevant.

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RE: Anthrax Evidence - 8/6/2008 6:02:22 PM   
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quote:

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From the same article " investigators concluded in 2005 that Hatfill couldn't have had access to a crucial flask of anthrax spores."

I quote: "Dasey later said it was possible that Hatfill might have had some access to anthrax".

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The fact remains Hatfill never worked in the laboratory where the anthrax strain was kept. That he worked at the same physical site is irrelevant.

I do not think that it is irrelevant. He is a suspect for various reasons. Not having known direct access does not invalidate him being a suspect.

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RE: Anthrax Evidence - 8/6/2008 8:48:18 PM   
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So now Hatfill is some sort of super spy that penetrated a secure biohazard lab and removed a biologically active sample without getting caught. These facilities use positive access control systems so you can't ever just walk through a door. You need a valid badge that the system recognizes. The use of the badge is also logged and I'm guaranteeing that those logs were audited for unauthorized or othe red flag usage. I further guarantee that Hatfill would not be receiving 150K for life as a settlement from the feds if any of the ivestigators or prosecutors still thought he did it.

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RE: Anthrax Evidence - 8/7/2008 1:51:59 AM   
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So now Hatfill ... penetrated a secure biohazard lab and removed a biologically active sample

Well, maybe he didn't. I am quite willing to consider that option. It does not make him any less of a suspect, though. As I said I serendipitously stumbled across Hatfill while investigating the WTC demolition. Then, there also is the Greendale school as return address on some of the envelopes - which is not a building, but the anthrax method of warfare - and Hatfill once lived in a neighbourhood Greendale where anthrax warfare was practised.
 
Someone did. Who had access to both labs and could transfer a sample from one lab to the other? Who is above suspicion as an accomplice?
 
Also, any investigator and any prosecutor in this case is himself highly suspect as one of them has to bury the dirt and spin the evidence in such a way as to point at some innocent scapegoat.

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RE: Anthrax Evidence - 8/7/2008 9:14:44 AM   
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I don't think either of these guys did it. But, we have others that may have had the capacity. They could nail the other 10 scientists  individually. Guilty, 100%.  Either pay them exhuberent amounts of money afterwards or watch them commit suicide. Gee, if you can get them to commit suicide it would be cheaper in the long run.


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RE: Anthrax Evidence - 8/7/2008 9:44:51 AM   
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I am not at all convinced that Ivins, a father of two, committed suicide. It may have been a murder.
 
And who is to say that it was a scientist that removed the sample? Cannot it have been someone else that had access to the strain and that acquired it and then transfered the sample to the scientist?

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RE: Anthrax Evidence - 8/7/2008 10:08:44 AM   
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It doesn't have to be a scientist. The point is that zero in on that one person.

I do not suspect that it was anything but suicide. The sheer terror of facing something like that and having family members repeatedly harrassed could easily flip someone. 

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