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TabrisMaceth -> RE: Age Play (10/5/2008 10:37:32 PM)

...Well...I feel like slightly less of a pervert admitting I love ageplay, now. I have a total cuteness fetish, and...dear lord...if I walked in on my subby all dressed in pink, drawing with her crayons, then she jumped up, showed me her picture, says in a breath or two "I drew you and me, and we're married, and we live in a mansion, and we have a million kids, and they're all named George even though half of them are girls, and we have a helicopter that can fly in space, and you're the super president of the whole world, and you beat out Skeletor in the election, and I'm a magic kitty girl who fights for truth and love, and can I have ice cream?", then holds her arms out wide and says "I love you this much!" so I'll let her have ice cream...I would just melt. That would be adorable beyond words.

-Tabris



DearJessicaD -> RE: Age Play (10/26/2008 12:41:08 PM)

We do age play. I'm pretty sure I have some "mommy issues" as my mother alternated between being abusive and neglectful but was never very nurturing. I could go on and on.

Anyway, it's not so much an age issue as it is playing daddy/daughter and something where we both pretend I know nothing about sex and my body and he explores and teaches me.



RainydayNE -> RE: Age Play (10/26/2008 12:52:40 PM)

i bounce back and forth to being curious about it to being completely flipped out by it. has anyone used it to "therapeutically" with good results? one day i think it could be helpful that way, and then the next i think it would be too horrifyingly triggering, i dunno =p
ah ambivalence.



YourhandMyAss -> RE: Age Play (10/26/2008 1:17:08 PM)

RainyDay, I've had theraputic ageplay. And theraputic will difer from person to person. For me it's theraputic because I am free to be the littlest person my heart feels, and not be ridiculed by the person I love. I'm never told to "grow up" or act your age" or you're such a baby" When I get to grunty and grabby and pointy,, instead of saying what I want  in a way he can comprehend, he does say use your words come on you can do it, but you'd likely  say that to any child who obviously wanted something but wasn't communicating it in a way you could comprehend.

I am free safe and secure *99 percent of the time*to experince things and express things in a childlike way, with out being attacked or having my sensitive side trampled on for dareing to show how little my heart can be. That goes for good emotionals and bad. If I am tired and just want to cry I am safe to do that, and if I am happy and elated and want to express that in a childlike way I am also safe and freet o do that. I am free to express wonderment and delight, and other emotions in a very natural to me way, and he never makes fun of me for it.





YourhandMyAss -> RE: Age Play (10/26/2008 1:21:44 PM)

He also thinks it's cute when I invent new words for animals, like wamoo for lauma's and piggy trout for the stone pig and sand tray trough at the park in petaluma. And when I see piggies and I squeel in a happy voice ppppiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigies daddy he replies back with the same silly piiiiiiiigies I announced.



teensub -> RE: Age Play (10/26/2008 2:34:45 PM)

I have never done age play with my master as its not something he is interested in. Altho people assume that we adopt the daddy/daughter role as i am 21 years his junior.

I have had cyber age play before i met my master and for me it was just about being a little bit helpless, cute and a good excuse to act all girly and silly.
It interests me but some people i have spoken to in the past have made me think they would enjoy to play with actual younger girls, which just sickens me.

If it really is just play, then its cool, whatever floats your boat i guess?



BLGirl -> RE: Age Play (10/26/2008 3:20:12 PM)

[image]http://www.collarchat.com/image/s1.gif[/image] I for one, love age play! In my real life, I am unable to be anything less than in charge, but I have always told Daddy that I am really just a little girl. I am truly innocent and naive and in need of someone to take care of me and reassure me that everything will be okay. I need a "safe base," to be psychological about it. I am quite aware of my Daddy issues and my Daddy does his best to take care of this need for release, but where I would like to be about 7-8 every night, he struggles with his conscience. It is usually a completely sexual thing for me (past abuse that probably shouldn't turn me on, but does), he plays along strictly to meet my needs, not his. In fact, there have been times that he has had to stop and tell me, "I can't do this right now." When he says this, I understand and come out of that role immediately. Because of his aversion, I don't ask often for this scenario.
    Someone earlier talked about dressing in cotton panties and a little girls nightgown, I love that. When I know that my Daddy will be getting in bed soon, I get this feeling of butterflies in my stomach as I anticipate him curling up behind me and "loving" me. Having him gently teach me to love him as if it's my first time and his being careful not to hurt me, fills my heart and eases my soul. I suppose I may be trying to redo the past with this desire to be taken for the first time again and again, but it works for me. Fortunately, I have a wonderful man that would never hurt me, unless I asked him to, so life is good!



bigbABygentleman -> RE: Age Play (10/29/2008 2:35:22 PM)

Age play can take many forms as discussed. Some are just child like or brattish. Some are regressed and infantile, as I am. Some are into childish clothing, behaviors or mannerism's. Some are non-sexual, some are VERY sexual and sensual as it's a bond between the Aged player/sub/bABy etc and their mommy or daddy. Some Dom/me's prefer no diapers, others want all the control the submissive has to be taken away and therefore diapers are the ultimate surrender.

As for accessories, bottles, sippy cups and other fashion accessories for the now bABy, some prefer to just be diaper lovers, and NOT adult babies. Some like the clothing, without the diapers and or their usage. If you try and peghole Age Play, it's like trying to peghole the human race. It's as diverse as each individual that indulges in it.



antipode -> RE: Age Play (10/29/2008 3:58:36 PM)

I kind of got it handed to me by subs, so it is kind of "learned behaviour". They were 23 and 25, if I recall.



kiwisub12 -> RE: Age Play (10/29/2008 4:08:16 PM)

My Sir tucks me into bed at night - because i go to bed hours before he does. Its the only time we do age play, and i love it. I also wouldn't want to do any more of it than we do. It makes me feel very snuggly and safe when he tucks me in and kisses me good-night. [:D]



antipode -> RE: Age Play (10/29/2008 6:43:06 PM)

Well, yes, but there's a huge difference between age play and incestuous play. I'll do the former, but won't ever think about the latter.

Now, about your sister...[8D]



StrictlyDom59 -> RE: Age Play (10/30/2008 5:54:40 AM)

H-m-m-m!  My recent sub was 13 years younger, but our age play wasn't focused on Father/daughter.  We would use other roles such a Teacher/student or Doctor/younger patient with an emphasis on disobedience and control.  These set up some wonderful "discipline" situations that my sub and I both enjoyed.  She simply could be bratty or resistant to enable plays with force inside the scene.

Personally, the incest thing is VERY tricky.  I understand how for some with a background of childhood abuse this kind of age play could be cathateric and psychologically beneficial.  On the other hand it can be destructive by reinforcing the trauma.

Those of us in this lifestyle know how varied sexual desire is as well as how individualized our sexual needs are.  Age play is just another of those variations.  If it floats your boat - - - Do it, damn it!



fragilepieces -> RE: Age Play (10/30/2008 2:01:47 PM)

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i want to know if anyone has done age play with their Dom/ Master? And, if so what age do "pretend" to be? i have had this going in my head for sometime. i would love to be able to find One that can do that with me. Not on a regular basis, but just every now and again. And, why do you think some of us choose this type of play or scene?
   
   
     Before I respond let me give fair warning, I'll probably piss people off with my reply.    I do not age play nor would I desire to either in a sexual or nonsexual way.  
   
    For me, age play as a kink would be similar to a thin woman putting a fat suit and calling it 'fat play'.   She puts on this suit and finds pleasure in pretending to be fat either in a sexual or nonsexual way then when her thrill is over, she unzips it and takes the suit off.    I am pretty sure any person who has dealt with weight issues would find it offensive that another would get pleasure from something they struggle with.    Weight is something many struggle with and although at times they might accept the fact that they have a weight problem, they might desire to unzip the fat and be at a healthier weight but it is never that easy.  

     MPD (multiple personality disorder) has been brought up.   It's now called DID (disassociative identity disorder) although quite a few still prefer the former term.    MPD or DID is a defensive mechanism, and directly caused by trauma in a person's life.   Most of the time the trauma is sexual abuse and it normally occurs in childhood.     Many who suffer from this disorder have a childlike personality.    They do not pretend to be a different age, for them it is not play.    I am of the belief that every one has a so called inner child but for the person suffering from MPD this inner child is more pronounced.   

     At times, it is difficult to embrace this part of your personality or enjoy it.  You might accept this part of yourself but the acceptance comes from the fact that you really haven't a choice.    Having a true child personality is like having a two year old (or other age) child who lives inside of you.   Sometimes you are able to control their actions but not always; especially if you are in a black out when they take over.    Imagine a child having access to your credit card or your money, the cashier is not going to question this child if she's in a 35 year old body and looks exactly like the picture on your driver's license and your bill money gets spent on toys or candy.    Imagine waking up to find you never went to work because the little person wanted to stay home and watch cartoons.     Imagine coming to in a psyche ward,  the cops picked you up because you were wandering the streets dressed in pink jammies dragging a stuffed animal through town and when they asked your name and age you answered with a different name and age.     For those who suffer from MPD it's not a choice, it's not a game where they pretend to be a certain age, and for some, they simply wish they could be an adult all the time.  They struggle with this disorder and although therapy can get them to a place where they are in a healthier state, it does not happen overnight nor in a couple weeks.   It takes YEARS.   

       In answer to the question, because I have personal experience with those who deal with MPD, I can not understand why anyone would choose to do this type of play.    I can not understand why anyone would want to even pretend to do it either for a sexual or nonsexual thrill.    For some who have that child like personality stemming from abuse, it is not pretend or a choice.   It's not cute, sexually exciting or something to be enjoyed and embraced.    I personally know one who feels ashamed, embarrassed and wishes for nothing more than to be an adult 100% of the time.   

   So the analogy of the 'fat play' sort of works for me.   Given the option would anyone find excitement in zipping on a fat suit?    If so what weight would you be?   Think about it.  

   I know I was a bitch about it and really hold no anger towards those who age play but knowing first hand what it is like for someone to have a child personality, the whole topic struck a nerve.            



IvyMorgan -> RE: Age Play (10/30/2008 3:20:06 PM)

And yet, fragilepieces, there are some of us with DID who do do age play.

My opinion is similar to when I started, as in, I don't sit down and actually *do* age play, but, I'm off to a workshop in December, and I have a very happy inner child who's looking forward to it a lot.  So much so I can see "me" not going at all, and it just being her.

I find it helps to work *with* the child parts, and then it makes things a whole lot easier.



fragilepieces -> RE: Age Play (10/30/2008 3:26:12 PM)

Ivy what you say makes sense.   At times, it is important that the inner child be allowed to be themselves in a controlled enviornment because they are really real and need to be allowed to be themselves however for someone with DID they do not 'choose' to have this little person nor 'pretend' to be a different age and that is what I have a problem with---the choice to be young and the pretending to be young.  



IvyMorgan -> RE: Age Play (10/30/2008 3:30:40 PM)

See, I have no problem with people choosing to be young and expressing their very present inner child.  I see it in a very similar way to those who choose to cross dress.  That someone cross dresses doesn't detract from the person who is transgendered, that someone chooses to indulge in a fantasy of being 6 for a day doesn't detract from me with DID who has little choice or control in the matter.



fragilepieces -> RE: Age Play (10/30/2008 3:58:54 PM)

   Ivy point taken, but it still sort of bugs me.  



BLGirl -> RE: Age Play (10/30/2008 8:10:18 PM)

Let me see if I can clarify;
 
Fragilepieces, I can appreciate that the thought of Age Play bothers you. However, not everyone with the experiences that you describe feels as you do. While it may be true that the majority of child sexual abuse victims would choose to avoid the scene, there are exceptions to every  rule; I am one of those exceptions. Incidently, often times the abuse that occurs in an incestuous relationship is not violent; the fact is that the majority of abusers do not purposefully inflict physical pain. The reason being to prolong the ability to abuse.
In my case in particular, although my father sexually abused me, I do not envision him when Daddy and I engage in Age Play, nor do I feel any emotional pain, guilt, or pangs of regret. I do not look at myself as a child, being a separate person from myself as an adult, rather I believe that I am the same person with the same need to be loved and to love in return. I suppose that classical conditioning is the best explanation for why I enjoy age play. I was conditioned as a child to enjoy the attention of my father. As time passed and I grew older, my body began to respond to him as a woman's would and I began to look forward to the attention. The things that he did to me and I to him, were the beginnings of my sexual experience and therefore, not a part of me that I can lock away and forget. Simply put, same things that aroused me then, arouse me now; hence the conditioning. I would much rather deal with this issue head-on and in a healthy way, than try to run from it and bury it under tons of denial and bitterness. I am not afraid of my history, nor am I ashamed of my reaction to it.
As to your likening age play to a person donning a "fat suit," to gain some sort of gratification, only to take it off when finished; I agree that it is a similar situation, but do we not do this in everyday life as well? I personally wear many masks throughout my day, some that I enjoy, some that I don't, but all of them serve a function. I put them on to do what I must and then I remove them. In any kind of play, be it age, puppy, pony, needle, or even rape; the participants employ a different persona than their actual and when finished, they revert to normalcy. Regardless of motive, these are parts that we play and to be offended by any of them seems overreactive to this survivor and age play enthusiast.
 
BLGirl



BLGirl -> RE: Age Play (10/30/2008 9:18:00 PM)

Hello everyone,

This is BLGirl's Daddy

I would like to address some issues that were posted earlier.  I have sectioned out each part and I'll replay to each as such. 

Before I respond let me give fair warning, I'll probably piss people off with my reply.    I do not age play nor would I desire to either in a sexual or nonsexual way.  

if you are knowingly going to piss someone off why not think of different way to post what you mean?

  For me, age play as a kink would be similar to a thin woman putting a fat suit and calling it 'fat play'.   She puts on this suit and finds pleasure in pretending to be fat either in a sexual or nonsexual way then when her thrill is over, she unzips it and takes the suit off.    I am pretty sure any person who has dealt with weight issues would find it offensive that another would get pleasure from something they struggle with.    Weight is something many struggle with and although at times they might accept the fact that they have a weight problem, they might desire to unzip the fat and be at a healthier weight but it is never that easy.  

I find that you use weight as an issue to stand on in poor taste.  I myself have a horrid self image, but my baby girl is always reassuring.  I know some of my old friends in college like bigger women.  He had told me on many occasions that he would never be with a thinner woman.  With that being said I would challenge you to actually look up how many different porn sites have bigger women on them, or even morbidly obese.  There are those out there that do like that and is a real turn on for them. 

MPD (multiple personality disorder) has been brought up.   It's now called DID (disassociative identity disorder) although quite a few still prefer the former term.    MPD or DID is a defensive mechanism, and directly caused by trauma in a person's life.   Most of the time the trauma is sexual abuse and it normally occurs in childhood.     Many who suffer from this disorder have a childlike personality.    They do not pretend to be a different age, for them it is not play.    I am of the belief that every one has a so called inner child but for the person suffering from MPD this inner child is more pronounced.   

I would like to take this time to correct an aspect that you have suggested.  DID is a defensive mechanism, but there are many reasons for its occurrence.  One is sexual abuse that is correct, but more often it can be found in those that have lost a parent or loved one at a young age.  This protection is for the core of the individual, not the inner child,  this inner child you speak of would only be one identity that has or had broken away from the core.  This is not the core itself.  There is also a huge disagreement on how traumatic an event would have to be in order to have another identity develop. 

  At times, it is difficult to embrace this part of your personality or enjoy it.  You might accept this part of yourself but the acceptance comes from the fact that you really haven't a choice. 

There is always a choice in one's ability or inability to accept things.  What one decides to accept and how they accept it is usually very personal and guided by a therapist. I would suggest it unwise to attempt to delve into the the other identities without professional counseling. 

  Having a true child personality is like having a two year old (or other age) child who lives inside of you.   Sometimes you are able to control their actions but not always; especially if you are in a black out when they take over.    Imagine a child having access to your credit card or your money, the cashier is not going to question this child if she's in a 35 year old body and looks exactly like the picture on your driver's license and your bill money gets spent on toys or candy.    Imagine waking up to find you never went to work because the little person wanted to stay home and watch cartoons.     Imagine coming to in a psyche ward,  the cops picked you up because you were wandering the streets dressed in pink jammies dragging a stuffed animal through town and when they asked your name and age you answered with a different name and age.  

While I could agree with you about the thought of a child running around in a adult's body there are some things that need to be considered with this statement.  1st of all most DID patients have a protective identity and this identity will take over at any time that there is perceived threat to the core or any of the other identities.  This Guardian identity will only answer to the gateway identity.  The Gateway identity is one of the first identities that is created for the control of the other identities.  With that being said I would find it difficult for a child identity to be able to do what you are suggesting unless it was something that the guarding identity was wanting/needing this behavior to happen. 

For those who suffer from MPD it's not a choice, it's not a game where they pretend to be a certain age, and for some, they simply wish they could be an adult all the time.  They struggle with this disorder and although therapy can get them to a place where they are in a healthier state, it does not happen overnight nor in a couple weeks.   It takes YEARS.  

I have read over a great many deal of the posts and at no point did I see anyone suggesting that anyone with DID pretend to be a certain age.  What I did read is that people wanted to pretend to be a different age.  There are various reason why people want to do age play.  I must have missed the other posts that suggested that people that are or have been diagnosed with DID should take part in age play.  Another thing that I would have to suggest to you is that it not only takes years it is a life time of therapy for this person. 

   In answer to the question, because I have personal experience with those who deal with MPD, I can not understand why anyone would choose to do this type of play.    I can not understand why anyone would want to even pretend to do it either for a sexual or nonsexual thrill.    For some who have that child like personality stemming from abuse, it is not pretend or a choice.   It's not cute, sexually exciting or something to be enjoyed and embraced.    I personally know one who feels ashamed, embarrassed and wishes for nothing more than to be an adult 100% of the time.  

I can understand that you have personal experience with this, but I would have to ask is the personal experience what is making this discussion hard for you to participate in without feeling like you have to "piss people off"?

   So the analogy of the 'fat play' sort of works for me.   Given the option would anyone find excitement in zipping on a fat suit?    If so what weight would you be?   Think about it.  

I have to wonder if you have issues with weight as well as age play this would be because you are willing to attack something that is easy to poke fun at and even easier for someone to conceptualize.  To answer your question I would not have to put a fat suit on I'm quite happy at my 280 and my baby girl likes me this way.  I would think that if I were to lose weight, or too much of it, I would put a fat suit on because I know she likes me larger rather than thinner. 

As a side note, I do have my degree in psychology, and I'm currently enrolled in my Master's program in Mental Health Counseling

BLGirl's Daddy

  



WildHoneyPie -> RE: Age Play (11/2/2008 8:10:45 PM)

fragilepieces--
piss me off?  yes, absolutely. 
i have spent years feeling freakish for my desires and have only come to terms with them in recent years. 
i am an adult who manages to lead a productive, happy life.
i also am my Daddy's girl and i make no apologies about it.
we humans are capable beautiful and creative complexity.
there's no need to cast judgement.  what is the purpose in that?
whp



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