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RE: Meat lover vs 1 cowardly vegan - 8/6/2008 11:45:15 AM   
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  Hi, my name is Cali, and I'm a meatatarian (thank you, Steven Spielberg and Michael Crichton)



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RE: Meat lover vs 1 cowardly vegan - 8/6/2008 11:49:57 AM   
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Meat good!
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RE: Meat lover vs 1 cowardly vegan - 8/6/2008 12:16:34 PM   
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I am not seeking support for who I am.  I don't support mindless slaugther...people need to be more responsible for there actions...meat eater or not.  Unless we become compassionate to other human beings, how can even expect others to show compassion to animals.


I've killed beef cattle, chickens, deer, hogs, lamb, a dog or two, pheasant, and probably a few other things that are not coming to mind. None of them were a "mindless slaughter" Aside from the dogs (long story) all of them were DINNER.
or lunch
or breakfast

And if you saw me with my furry babies, and the rescues I work with.........you would  see immense compassion.

I forgot.......lots of fish

and one mule (no, I didn't eat that bastard either)


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RE: Meat lover vs 1 cowardly vegan - 8/6/2008 12:23:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: FixedVentures

I am not seeking support for who I am.  I don't support mindless slaugther...people need to be more responsible for there actions...meat eater or not.  Unless we become compassionate to other human beings, how can even expect others to show compassion to animals.


I've killed beef cattle, chickens, deer, hogs, lamb, a dog or two, pheasant, and probably a few other things that are not coming to mind. None of them were a "mindless slaughter" Aside from the dogs (long story) all of them were DINNER.
or lunch
or breakfast

And if you saw me with my furry babies, and the rescues I work with.........you would  see immense compassion.

I forgot.......lots of fish

and one mule (no, I didn't eat that bastard either)



Great to hear somebody else enjoys the shopping in the woods method of eating... If I could trade places with anybody for a week, it would be Ted Nugent, not much to explain there.

I think it is still against the law to kill furries and mimes, however I am all in favor of a grassroots movement to get the legislation passed.

I actually find that folks that eat meat (especially from animals they kill) usually enjoy the animal for all of it beauty, and are actually pretty damn compasionate when it comes to the treatment of animals, even going as far as volunteering their time to help rescues, population management programs.

Keep up the great work LT.

Not sure I want to ask about the mule story. 

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RE: Meat lover vs 1 cowardly vegan - 8/6/2008 12:44:14 PM   
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Actually it is a very funny story.

I've had horses off and on most of my life. At the time of the "mule incident" I was keeping my horse out where some friends of mine had their horses. We rode together all the time, they were old family friends. Lots of fun stuff like cutting wood for the winter, deer hunting together (he gave me my colt 45 peacemaker revolver and taught me how to shoot and hunt with it), camping, and just really enjoying each other's company.

Somehow they came to own two mules. No one rode them. No one really did anything with them, they were just "part of the herd". All of the sudden the horses started getting out every few days. Now, trying to gather up 10ish horses and 2 mules when they can run endlessly through fields and woods is not easy. Eventually they wander back (usually) but until then, it's not easy. Especially when you do not have any horses to gather them with, because your riding horses are part of the escapees. The most frustrating part of the problem was that there was no locatable escape route. We went over that entire pasture of fencing with a fine toothed comb and found nothing! And, it is a rather remote location with no near neighbours that would be able to play tricks.

The third time this happened in just over a week, there was a witness. The most unbelievable site. The mule (who just happened to be the most difficult to catch also...) would get down on his front knees and stick his head under the fence, lift the bottom strand and crawl under THEN, because he was lonely, go unlatch the damned gate (which was easy from the outside) to either try and get back in, or let his partners loose. He got caught that time, and stopped before the rest got out. But, they could not catch him to put him back. No great loss, no one rode him or did anything with him anyway. Only one problem, he kept coming back to try and lure the rest away.

Sooooooo, the owner of said mule (and most of the other horses) got a little irrate and decided that the nearest weekend we needed to get together a mule posse. 8 of us on horseback, several armed (we had been having problems with coydogs and usually were armed when riding to dispatch that problem) chased that damned mule for over 6 hours all over western Washington County. Finally, the owner, disgusted and verrrrrryyyy pissed off, said something like "the first person that can get off a good shot at that #$%$%&#$, kill it!"

And that was the end of that troublemaking mule.

Edited to add....... I do not really enjoy killing animals. I do believe in being an omnivore and I am also cheap. Combine that with the fact that I enjoy eating the best meat I can get and sometimes that means I kill what I eat. I don't do it nearly as often as I did when I had a houseful of mouths to feed and a great deal more time to raise and process most of my food. Now I buy the beef from a local farmer, pay the butchershop in a small town nearby to process my meat and go pick it up and toss it in the deep freeze. It is much less expensive (this last side cost me a grand total of $2.30 per pound) and the taste is unbelievably wonderful.

I also eat much less meat than I did when I was younger and alot more physical in my work. Desk jobs do not require as much protein going into a 46 yo body as my lifestyle then did, going into a 20something body.


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RE: Meat lover vs 1 cowardly vegan - 8/6/2008 3:06:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Thadius



While traveling, I have eaten just about everything, haven't tried human yet, not sure that I am interested in it.  Trust me though, if it were a life or death choice, I would be eating you.


Just my opinions,
Thadius


LMAO....

Well, that is one hell of a statement, I have to say I agree, when it comes down to a life or death decision. 

On another note, spending a week with Ted in the woods would be GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!   I would have to learn how to use a Bow though first.

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RE: Meat lover vs 1 cowardly vegan - 8/6/2008 3:40:59 PM   
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Fast reply~
I love meat but because of a funky, rare metabolism disorder, I try for the most part to avoid a heavy intake of animal protein.    I do eat it-yum!.  Just an observation:  I try to accomodate guests who are vegans when entertaining though the same consideration is never returned (I want some meat) :o(

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RE: Meat lover vs 1 cowardly vegan - 8/6/2008 4:11:34 PM   
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like i've said before, i'm a meatasaurus, a carnivore to the bone.  people can eat what they want and i don't really give a shit, just leave me alone about my choices and it's all good.

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RE: Meat lover vs 1 cowardly vegan - 8/6/2008 4:14:33 PM   
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This is pretty funny princess...one of the worst harange-type emails a new girl has reported receiving.
 
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RE: Meat lover vs 1 cowardly vegan - 8/6/2008 4:52:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FixedVentures

Fact is, you and I, all of us, are part of system.  How we assimilate to that system is a personal choice.  

You don't eat your dogs, your cats, hamsters and rats but would there be anything wrong with that if someone chose to do it?  If you do eat all those things, do you stop at Monkeys because they are 98% genetically similar to human beings, or do  you stop at human beings, and why would you stop at human beings?

Why do you choose to eat certain animals, and not others?  Why I eat only plants, is they have no capacity to sense pain...no brain...that might or might not be true, but from what we are capable of knowing, that is where I have to stand. 


animal liver, human liver... whats the difference?

ok, kidding aside, Im sure that most people would resort to cannibalism if given a choice between that and starvation.

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RE: Meat lover vs 1 cowardly vegan - 8/6/2008 4:58:51 PM   
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I'm a major meataterian as well -   but I've never considered eating a vegan - its always been a hard limit of mine.

So   .....     what does a vegan taste like?

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RE: Meat lover vs 1 cowardly vegan - 8/6/2008 5:04:47 PM   
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chicken

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RE: Meat lover vs 1 cowardly vegan - 8/6/2008 5:07:40 PM   
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Well, i'll never try one then!  Tofu is an abomination!!!!!




now, if they tasted like chicken ......................................

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RE: Meat lover vs 1 cowardly vegan - 8/6/2008 5:09:58 PM   
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Well, i'll never try one then!  Tofu is an abomination!!!!!


now, if they tasted like chicken ......................................


Well, it's dinner time at the farm. I took a second bite and, as you can see, I changed my mind.

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RE: Meat lover vs 1 cowardly vegan - 8/6/2008 5:59:01 PM   
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Humankind evolved eating meat. It's good for you.

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RE: Meat lover vs 1 cowardly vegan - 8/6/2008 6:39:30 PM   
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theres a reason human teeth are designed the way they are..

RIP AND TEAR THAT MEAT!!!


The better to eat you with my dear? **Wolf leers**

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RE: Meat lover vs 1 cowardly vegan - 8/6/2008 6:46:33 PM   
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RE: Meat lover vs 1 cowardly vegan - 8/7/2008 2:30:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: petdave

That also brings to mind the *other* reason why i have Veganism as a hard limit- they're never content to just eat their veggies, they always have to tell you about it.



During my vegetarian days I never preached to anyone about it. The topic never came up unless I was offered a meat item (dead meat that is...*grins*). So...please don't generalize.

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ORIGINAL: FixedVentures

Why do you choose to eat certain animals, and not others?  Why I eat only plants, is they have no capacity to sense pain...no brain...that might or might not be true, but from what we are capable of knowing, that is where I have to stand. 


That was my thinking on it. It all came about when my Dad brought home rabbit meat one day. I refused to eat it. Then I thought "if I won't eat the rabbit 'cause it's this cute furry thing, then am I not a hypocrite for eating something that is less cute?" Thus began my veggie ways. I will probably return to it once I get a good alternative protein source other than processed soy.



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RE: Meat lover vs 1 cowardly vegan - 8/7/2008 3:58:19 AM   
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I'm glad everone enjoyed the rant.  I felt better afterwards, although my senile cats were giving me a wide berth for a full day.   Now it's time for coffee (how many innocent beans gave their all for it?), bacon & eggs.


nom nom nom...

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RE: Meat lover vs 1 cowardly vegan - 8/7/2008 4:06:43 AM   
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I'm a major meataterian as well -   but I've never considered eating a vegan - its always been a hard limit of mine.

So   .....     what does a vegan taste like?



Apparently I taste great.



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