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Dyeing embroidery thread with Kool Aid - 11/18/2005 2:12:57 PM

FelinePersuasion

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I know you can dye hair, and Koolaid defiantly stains skin hehe, and I saw where yarn takes dye wonderfully, but what about Embroidery floss, I was thinking of walking up the block to the little conveinces store today and picking up some coolaid to see what happens when I dip the floss into it.

HAs any one ever tried it? The colors that came out on the yarn was simply gorgious. I also thought of using real dye like clariol or something.

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RE: Dyeing embroidery thread with Kool Aid - 11/18/2005 2:27:19 PM

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Why not just use fabric dye actually designed for the job?

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RE: Dyeing embroidery thread with Kool Aid - 11/18/2005 2:42:12 PM

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Because Kool aid gives you brighter colors with more options and it's easier to use than real dyes ment to . Plus if you don't like it you're not out 8 bucks with a bottle of die left. I can walk 5 mins up the block to go get a bunch of Koolaid from the conveinces store and be home and done with it in the time it wuld take to go across town to the craft store spend a lot more money on it than K A and then come back home.

And with Claroil hair dye they have more color options like cherry brown.

And it's all about the craft potentials, any one can go out and buy random colors of dye, but it's more fun to try something new.

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RE: Dyeing embroidery thread with Kool Aid - 11/18/2005 2:50:41 PM

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I've never done it, but I doubt that kool-id will hold it's color to the floss as well as actual dye will.

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RE: Dyeing embroidery thread with Kool Aid - 11/18/2005 2:52:27 PM

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nah, mate, I don't reckon it would either.

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RE: Dyeing embroidery thread with Kool Aid - 11/18/2005 3:48:33 PM

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I've done it, and it dyes cloth very well. However, if you intend to make anything that you will be touching at all, don't use Kool Aid. Even after it has dried the color will come off and stain your skin and clothing. It's very messy. Plus embroidery thread comes in every color of the rainbow, and it's just as cheap as undyed, so there's really no point.

If you're feeling creative, you could always try making natural dyes. My sister, Mom and I would do this when I was little. You can use pretty much any colorful fruit or vegetable. Pomegranates, blackberries, and beets are some of the easiest. Simply mash up the fruit (or seeds, in the case of the pomegranate) in a bowl, then filter it through cheesecloth. Repeat as often as necessary. Soak the cloth or thread in the dye until you have acheived the color you want, then let it dry for several days. The color can range anywhere from subtle to vivid. It looks great and it sets up very well.

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RE: Dyeing embroidery thread with Kool Aid - 11/18/2005 3:52:12 PM

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And then there is a very good possibility that the Kool-Aid would rub off on whatever craft you are making. Fabric dye isn't that expensive and you can mix them if you follow the directions. That way if you don't like the color you can mix it and make a new color (or just adjust the mixing to make it lighter or darker)

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RE: Dyeing embroidery thread with Kool Aid - 11/18/2005 4:06:50 PM

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Kool aid IS a good dye for wool fibers. If you have undyed, untreated wool, you can use the kool aid to good effect, using the vinegar bath method of fixing the color.

Or, have fun with Rit!

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RE: Dyeing embroidery thread with Kool Aid - 11/18/2005 4:09:08 PM

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Because Kool aid gives you brighter colors with more options and it's easier to use than real dyes ment to . Plus if you don't like it you're not out 8 bucks with a bottle of die left.

Dharma Trading Company offers plenty of dyes in bright colors for considerably less than $8 a bottle and they're not going to wash out, fade from UV exposure or rub off on whatever they touch. They're just the first place I looked, having bought from them in the past, but you might find similar (or better) deals from other vendors.

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I can walk 5 mins up the block to go get a bunch of Koolaid from the conveinces store and be home and done with it in the time it wuld take to go across town to the craft store spend a lot more money on it than K A and then come back home.

True enough. Kool-Aid does satisfy that instant-gratification need.

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And with Claroil hair dye they have more color options like cherry brown.

They also contain chemicals which can be hostile to your thread.

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RE: Dyeing embroidery thread with Kool Aid - 11/18/2005 5:06:50 PM

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They also contain chemicals which can be hostile to your thread.

And hair is not the same as thread. I have gotten hair dye on clothing before and it just stained it a yucky maroon (red), pit-stain yellow (blonde) and a poopy looking dark brown (dark auburn).

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RE: Dyeing embroidery thread with Kool Aid - 11/18/2005 6:07:17 PM

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I went to walmart and they only had 4 colors tan red orange and black lol. I'll have to try that trading company. It was only a few dollars at wm but like I said the color options sucked hehehe.

How about satin ballet slippers would fabric dyes work on them?

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RE: Dyeing embroidery thread with Kool Aid - 11/18/2005 6:53:43 PM

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Most companies that sell the slippers will dye them for you, although I think that there is a dye that they sell to do it yourself. I always had mine dyed by the company (having needed pointe shoes in every color of the rainbow), but maybe some of the girls dyed their own, I will ask around.

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RE: Dyeing embroidery thread with Kool Aid - 11/18/2005 7:07:49 PM

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Ok, chatted with a few of the girls (it's nice that everyone is online pretty much all the time) and they told me a couple different options.

There is a company called Dylon that makes a fabric dye that costs about $2 or $3 a box and comes in a million colors. Please note that this is for soft shoes only.

Beware that this does shrink the shoe! You will lose at least half a size or more. It is best to test it on an old pair that you can't wear anymore before trying it on a performance pair.

One girl said that she used a magic marker to color her shoes (but that it only works if you want them to be black and they are made of the "silky" type material).

Also, using a fabric dye will kill the toe box in a pointe shoe, it will just fall apart. A shoe dye should be used if they are going to be performed in and not just on display. It's best to ask at a shoe repair shop (or a dancewear shop) for one that can be used on a hard shoe.

Ribbons can be bought in a whole host of colors so that isn't generally an issue, but ribbons can be dyed with regular fabric dye.

I hope this helps, please let me know if you want/need more information.

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RE: Dyeing embroidery thread with Kool Aid - 11/18/2005 7:43:28 PM

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From what I understand, you can use any protein type fiber for kool-aid dying. I think embroidery floss is mostly cotton, and if so, it should take nicely :) Give it a shot and let us know. I've dyed yard with kool-aid before, but it never occurred to me to try it with floss.

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RE: Dyeing embroidery thread with Kool Aid - 11/18/2005 7:49:20 PM

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Thank you so much siasma, Iused to be in ballet our shoes were always pink, but I thought it'd be cute to try to dye some ballet slippers or regular keep feet warm slippers and resell them or give as gifts.

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RE: Dyeing embroidery thread with Kool Aid - 11/18/2005 7:57:57 PM

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If they are satin I would check the label or the box about dying, but if they are canves I would just go to town and have a blast! Just remember about the shrinking and the suede on the bottom gets slick (but not much worse then the 2 year old pair that you still dance in because they are soooooo comfy even though they are full of holes and have no grip left, you know the ones

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RE: Dyeing embroidery thread with Kool Aid - 11/18/2005 8:06:46 PM

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I went the spray paint route with pointe shoes. But, when I had a "special" pair that I couldn't bear to part with, I had them dyed by the shoemaker's (same technique as for bridal party shoes) and it stiffened them right up again.

:)Francine

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RE: Dyeing embroidery thread with Kool Aid - 11/18/2005 9:46:11 PM

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I went the spray paint route with pointe shoes.

One of the girls tried this, but ended up slipping on stage. I don't know if she was off balance or if it was because of the spray paint, but I decided that I didn't want to take that chance.

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RE: Dyeing embroidery thread with Kool Aid - 11/19/2005 12:08:25 AM

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Here is a tib bit of related info....' Rit dye ' is for fabric, is inexpensive (aprox $2.09 worth (or 1 box) will dye three yards ) and can also be used to dye unfinished wicker, rattan, baskets, wreaths furniture & wood accessories. (sponge or brush on 1 to 3 coats of dry stain or you can dunk the item in 2 qts of hot stain water for about 20 minutes) If Your floss is mafe of cotton, rayon, ramie,linen, silk wool,spandex or actate this dye is perfect , however this dye will not adhere to 100 percent polyester (i could dye my canvas shoes but not the shoelaces) also 100 percent acrylic would not hold the dye. Keep in mind that when using fabric dye that the fabric, yarn , floss, all must be hot waterable. Also adding 1 cup of salf to the dyebath will yeild best color results. And You reallyshould add a tablespoon of laundrey detergent to all dyebaths. One last note, You can call or write them for a compleat color chart ( its a really cool chart ) and they have a website that can answer all your dyeing needs ( ritdye.com ) Best of luck to you with your project.

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RE: Dyeing embroidery thread with Kool Aid - 11/19/2005 9:51:38 AM

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Polyester will essentially *never* dye with any home based process. The color in polyester is set into the molecule, when the fiber is made. Printed polyester fabrics are done in super hot presses that are not available except commercially.

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I put moleskin on the tips of my shoes for anti-slippage, so that takes care of the paint......but it's true, the paint kind of seals the fabric so it frays oddly and picks up dirt oddly, too! I have some vintage pointes in my collection like that.

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